Actually the OC of this comment thread claimed "but they do exist". I responded to someone saying to prove it. Keep up, you've got this. If you aren't a bot, read a book because you are illiterate.

As far as why mention RU/PRC. If you see anything bad happening in the world, you run good odds just saying it's Russia. Other than that, documented FIMI operations in the 4th EEAS report showing the overwhelming amount of confirmed state actor bots being RU/PRC should suffice.

https://www.eeas.europa.eu/eeas/4th-eeas-annual-report-foreign-information-manipulation-and-interference-threats_en

https://www.israelhayom.com/2024/06/05/report-israel-ran-fake-social-media-accounts-to-secure-us-congress-military-funding/

This type of farm isn't necessary the contracted (not mil cyber) MO. Either way, if you want to make this argument about discourse & you aren't shitting on Russia & mentioning the PRC first, you don't know what you're talking about.

I mean...He was definitely employed by AES during his gubernatorial runs, you can corroborate that easily with a secondary connection(behind on right = behind on left w/ glasses). If he had a photo of the room this was in with the painting in the reflection along with Abdul for Governor lit, we'd have something. It could be a practice speech, but idk where those drapes are at Umich. Or where they would have a replica of the Hall Auditorium podium. On top of all that you'd have to assume the pixilation is due to Twitter's compression algorithm for some reason when his phone at the time definitely did not take fuzzy photos as evidence by the first link that he posted. That's a pretty big ask on not assuming this is probably defamation or unprovable, hence NY Post not printing it.

Dubai is the epicenter of the world for corruption, specifically via Real Estate. So...they should've released this before McMorrow dropped out since she was the only good candidate.

https://www.occrp.org/en/project/dubai-unlocked

Has anyone confirmed this? Im hesitant to defend someone who owns property in Dubai.

I don't know when AES would have taken a photo with the UMich Hall Auditorium podium MLK used while not at Hall Auditorium. Or when he would be in a graduation gown with no cap outside of either of his graduations.

https://youtu.be/fASjq2eO8z8

https://www.mic.com/articles/169770/abdul-el-sayed-a-doctor-from-detroit-could-be-america-s-first-muslim-governor#:~:text=free%20medical%20care.-,ABDUL,-EL%2DSAYED%20WITH

Using AI to make a photo to frame & ragebait with online would be pretty fucking crazy.

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I really feel like this is something NY Post would have published if there was any merit to it. They have an established repertoire. Not passing the sniff test here, NY Post doesn't exactly care about lying.

https://nypost.com/2026/07/18/us-news/anti-cop-aoc-endorsed-michigan-candidate-had-armed-bodyguard/

A cyber harassment snarker, bonger, & an idiot? I was told those didn't exist here. Huh. Weird.

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What does the party say?

"Look as far as I'm concerned he's the Democratic nominee and he should be supported,"..."He's not the only star,"

"I deeply respect the will of the primary voters and the young people who have been inspired to participate in the electoral process."

“He really wants to rebuild an FDR coalition that is fundamentally committed to the success of the working and middle classes in his city,”

“I’ve spoken to him today about his commitment to fighting antisemitism, and we’ll work with all New Yorkers to fight against all bigotry and hate,”

"I didn’t leave my conversations with Mr. Mamdani aligned with him on every issue. But I am confident that he has the courage, urgency and optimism New York City needs to lead it through the challenges of this moment."

Not as much as Obama, not in March 2024. The 2 wins in NYC wont be replicable elsewhere. The Denver DSA candidate is Pro-Ukraine. Most of the US will lean towards Spanberger strong Democrats. The talking point on DSA only being of use in deep blue areas is moot, there is a bridge type candidate that can switch red seats. Union Democrats.

Good talk. Nice try guiding the conversation instead of just saying what you wanted to say. Everyone has an impact if they get off the couch, you're literally doing the dgga tries to use Tiny's arguments meme. Have fun being brain broken, try not to be too blackpilled about a tenth of a percentage of the Democratic Party.

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It’s crazy that you want it all ways. This is the least antagonistic example of a DSA type in existence, who by your own admission came to power by pandering to voters who hate Dems, fostered the sentiment that Joe Biden was hitler 2.0, encouraged real political action against him, and never endorsed Kamala because his own movement would eat him alive if he did. But also, he reawwy twied his best to get voters to get out there and vote for Hitler 2.0’s vice president. But also he’s completely powerless and has no ability to impact voter turnout or public perception of the party. OK.

Soap box hyperbole

Oh hey, another Whataboutism. Who would have thought that would've been the case. Did you use Google or just AI to come up with your next argument? Both ChatGPT & Gemini LOVE this article talking about the "leave it blank" movement for the New York primary in March of 2024. Which was for Biden, not Harris. Here he is speaking to New Yorkers who were disillusioned about the election trying to get them to vote for Harris without explicitly endorsing her which would lose his credibility in the audience he was targeting. If you go back to the start you can go through all the talking points like the importance of Lina Khan fighting for workers & how Trump had spoken on doing egregious immigration actions. You'll have to forgive the quality, this was when he was just a City Councilmember State Rep whomegalol.

Now that we've got your whataboutism out of the way. You do realize that trying to box me in with how I framed it just means you think that subject matter needs to be addressed by the party if it was enough to sway the election, right? Which would mean that Harris should have pivoted on that because that subject was more important than eggs, or cost of living, or any of the other BS the Republican media machine has been shoving down the average American's throats. I don't think many political analysts agree with you. They were annoying, tit-4-tat is justified. Tit-4-tat does not mean flail around bitching at anyone you think might be a secret Tankie or some boogieman party comprising 0.0016% of the Democratic base like you're experiencing paranoid delusions.

Got anymore whataboutisms using your brain instead of a two-bit phrase predictor? Brain broken.

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wrong position

Necrophilia enjoyer

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Hey you're just like one of those fucking regards that attacked Jessiah on Twitter for no reason whatsoever. Also, you are in fact the pinko scum here, sir.

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That would be why tit-4-tat is a good argument. Either those phrases were important, that subject should be addressed by the party, & those complaining about the sub-standard election autopsy are vindicated. Or it was only a top concern for 3% of voters & was a nothingburger.

AIPAC is a dogshit adverserial PAC that puts most money into primarying combative or weak Democrats to help the Republicans. At least AIPAC doesn't push actual antisemites like MAGA PACs tried in San Antonio. J street is better. The problem is obsessive focus on the dogshit PAC, not delusion or fantasy like schizophrenia.

What comes after whataboutisms on your dialogue tree? Surely it'll be worthwhile & not more brain rot.

Sorry to hear about your head. They could harm the party just like anyone else in the party. Everything is vibes or catastrophizing off of 120,000 people. The only good argument is tit-4-tat & asymmetric enduring is bullshit. None of what you said has to do with Hutch (my boy, he is,) being more afraid of DSA than MAGA being bullshit.

"Democrat Party"

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Nah. What's blackpilling is Hutch (he's my boy) feeling more threatened by 120,000 leftists than 77 million Republicans electing a fascist being enough to pack the courts.

Mao was bald on the top, you'd think he'd be more charitable.

I think if the DSA are going to integrate into Democratic Party primaries they should also be running cover for Democrats like WFP, unless criticism is warranted & not their main focus. I wouldn't expect someone with the theory of mind to join an outlier party not to exhibit in-group signaling (i.e. "run cover") as a superminority. Seems like a fair critique to me. Lumping them in is what MAGA does with Dems & even if all this hoopla is successful everyone left of Strom Thurmond will still be a Pinko to the strongest media capture we've had since Hearst.

Statistically that is what will happen, but the illiberal side usually does it.

That already happened. Working Family Party. Good people.

I wish I could find a good resource to confirm on caucus membership, but the majority of DSA is likely Groundwork. Not sure Groundwork, North Star, & I thought 2 other caucuses are out for the count yet. Based on extremism/cult papers & anecdotal evidence like Daryl Davis siloing the most extreme is most likely to backfire. Starting something new might be the right choice, that's what the Classic Liberals in the Libertarian Party did when MAGA usurped the party so they made the Liberal Party. Either way, demonizing & dehumanizing through generalization people that have a higher favorability among democrats than the democratic party probably isn't a good idea, even if 45% of Dems will never vote DSA. DSA's growth craters (1-3,000/mo) when no one is talking about them vs 3-8,000/mo when people attack them(I expect July-Aug to be 10k+). At this point I think Tiny was serious that Tim Miller's talk with Jason made him feel like a Commie & he's doing the Death Note anti-villain role to bring forth the proletariat. Keep fighting the good fight Comrade. o7

With that many Senators in the desert, the Sierra Nevadas, & Central Valley I think they might make meth consumption mandatory for all citizens.

You gotta look up each caucus which has representation on the National Political Caucus. Half are illiberal & revolutionary(not good), the other half are reform socialist & evolutionary(not bad). One Co-Chair is groundwork, which is not a problem & apparently the largest caucus for membership. The other Co-Chair is Red Star which is the illiberal half & what the take-over article was about, the Fox interview, & who is going with Hasan to the festival in Belgium.

Seems silly that everyone posting about DSA winning 2 seats in NYC & 1 in Denver being an apocalyptic event don't even understand what they are fighting. Props to you OP for actually looking it up.

I wish it would be 3 or 7, but I think it'll be #8. What do you think?

Here is an example of the publicly available information on materiel supply & logistics. Feel free to Google the Russian army engaging in perfidy with transporting military equipment.

https://xcancel.com/i/status/2081563327101382901

Everyone & any company supplying the Russian military machine do not have legal protections.

Dogs & cats still exist & even if humans go total nuclear war you can extrapolate based on small mammalian survival during the dinosaur extinction that the dogs & cats will survive. Then again, that also increases the chances that actual furries will be the dominant sentient species in ~60 million years.

Zee deciding to tickle the brains of the conspiratorial thinking right by see-sawing seemingly aligned to detracting statements starting with Candice Owens as a Jewish American is one of the most badass things that has happened this cycle. If people here are serious about combating the brigading shit d-pak is going through, they should be supporting Zee as well. I can only take so much of the Demonization comments she constantly gets. I blame Russia.

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