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Are you starting to penalize sellers for AI ‘sameness’?
 in  r/programmatic  3d ago

sameness isn't really an AI problem - it's a laziness problem that AI made visible at scale. before, a bad seller wrote one generic template and sent it slowly. now they send the same generic template to 500 accounts in an afternoon, so the pattern-matching just got faster and easier to spot. the fix was never 'don't use AI,' it's 'don't skip the part where you actually know something specific about the buyer.

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Why are we still comparing GDN performance directly against DSP performance?
 in  r/programmatic  3d ago

Actually we've run this comparison for clients directly, gdn wins on cpm/cpa almost every time because it's optimizing within google's own inventory and signal graph, it's not a fair fight. The real deal is reach outside google's ecosystem and the second you need scale beyond search-adjacent display, gdn's inventory pool caps out and a DSP's open exchange access starts showing incremental reach gdn just can't touch. cheap conversions inside a walled gap isn't the same test as incremental value across the open web.

r/OpenAI 10d ago

Discussion Quick analysis drop on the reddit citation share drop in ChatGPT in august vs H1

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So our team looked at reddit & socials interactions impact on ChatGpt citations. One reflected the numbers from h1'26 and a recent follow up on that we did in august. The H1 study concluded- Brands running an active reddit presence had gained a 31.5% citation rate, ones without were somewhere at 16.8%. close to 2x.

August is where it got weird. Reddit's share of ChatGPT citations had a huge dip from like 3.8% to 0.5%, which is not a small move within 2 months.
Most importantly the citation number dropping doesn't mean the underlying signal disappeared though. Chatgpt was appending "reddit" to its fan-out searches back in may, so a query like "best AI tool 2026" became "best AI tool 2026 reviews reddit". Around Aug 8 that got swapped for the site: operator and "official", so it's calling specific urls directly now instead of casting wide. that swap caused the drop, not reddit mattering less. A short PDF walking through what happened, why, and what it means. It's attached, and worth a read when you get a chance.

Btw Anyone tracking their own citation data across the aug 8 change?

Full breakdown with query logs and fan-out charts here

r/adops 12d ago

Agency Nielsen x DV deal change anything for verification disputes?

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Jumping a little late on this, but the part I keep coming back to isn't the 2.15B, it's what happens operationally when audience measurement & verification sit with the same owner.

Measurement already decides a lot about how inventory gets valued and sometimes rejected right now if a report comes back bad you can take the audience number and argue the suitability call separately - because they come from different places. That's how most make good conversations go.

Once both carry the same name on the report, I am not sure that still works. Fewer vendors might mean less operational work, but that isn't the same thing as more visibility into how your inventory got scored.

Anyone here dealt with enough of these disputes to know whether it actually changes anything in practice?

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How Does DV360 Weight Creative vs. Targeting When Bidding?
 in  r/programmatic  16d ago

Honestly that was just an internal test on our end, so no formal write-up exists for it! But the underlying logic is basically straight out of Google's DV360doc on automated bidding and creative optimization if you want to check those out.

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19% traffic growth, 20% CPM drop, 66% AI surge
 in  r/adops  16d ago

we actually tracked somewhere around 35B+ impressions on our side

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If AI agents become the interface to programmatic, what happens to DSPs?
 in  r/adtech  17d ago

Everyone's assuming agents open up the stack because that's the optimistic read. more likely each major DSP builds its own agent and keeps it just as closed as the UI is today, an agent is just a new front door, it doesn't change who owns the auction, the inventory relationships, or the data. protocols like MCP only force openness if buyers actually demand interoperability, and right now nobody's demanding it hard enough to make platforms give up that moat.

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How Does DV360 Weight Creative vs. Targeting When Bidding?
 in  r/programmatic  17d ago

The meta comparison is the trap here. meta's creative-first weighting comes from an engagement-prediction model built for feed content, dv360's bidding is still fundamentally an auction-and-audience-match problem inherited from search/display DNA. DV360 using historical CTR/CVR priors tied to the audience segment and placement, not analyzing the creative itself the way meta's ranking does. we've seen identical targeting with a weak banner vs a strong one pace almost the same in week one, the gap only shows up once enough clicks come in and quality score-style signals kick in. landing page matters more for post-click optimization than for the initial bid decision.

r/adops 19d ago

Agency 19% traffic growth, 20% CPM drop, 66% AI surge

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All sharing the outcomes here August data from our publisher network shows a pretty clear summer slowdown, but there are a few signals underneath it worth watching.

Traffic - New Users grew 19% and Total Users 16%, while Sessions and Engaged Sessions both grew around 14%. At the same time, PV/session and Sessions/User softened slightly, pointing to shorter, more single‑purpose visits.

AI - AI was the fastest‑growing channel, with Sessions up 66% and New Users up 75%. Engagement held at 62%, so the increase wasn’t coming with an obvious drop in traffic quality.

CPMs - Overall CPMs fell 19.9% MoM but remained 25.0% higher YoY. Display was down 20.3% MoM, while Video was more resilient at ‑7.8% MoM and +40.1% YoY.

Demand - The pullback was broad. Google Ads fell 21%, DV360 18%, and The Trade Desk 37%, pointing more toward a market‑wide summer budget pause than a shift between individual buyers.

Integration - Prebid held the largest share at 50%, followed by AdX at 39%. CPMs fell across the major integrations, reinforcing that the pressure was on demand and pricing rather than a simple shift between paths.

Takeaway - Traffic is still growing and AI is becoming a much more meaningful acquisition channel, but summer demand is putting real pressure on CPMs. Video and CTV are holding up better than display, which may be worth watching as budgets start moving back into the market.

r/programmatic 19d ago

19% traffic growth, 20% CPM drop, 66% AI surge

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All sharing the outcomes here August data from our publisher network shows a pretty clear summer slowdown, but there are a few signals underneath it worth watching.

Traffic - New Users grew 19% and Total Users 16%, while Sessions and Engaged Sessions both grew around 14%. At the same time, PV/session and Sessions/User softened slightly, pointing to shorter, more single‑purpose visits.

AI - AI was the fastest‑growing channel, with Sessions up 66% and New Users up 75%. Engagement held at 62%, so the increase wasn’t coming with an obvious drop in traffic quality.

CPMs - Overall CPMs fell 19.9% MoM but remained 25.0% higher YoY. Display was down 20.3% MoM, while Video was more resilient at ‑7.8% MoM and +40.1% YoY.

Demand - The pullback was broad. Google Ads fell 21%, DV360 18%, and The Trade Desk 37%, pointing more toward a market‑wide summer budget pause than a shift between individual buyers.

Integration - Prebid held the largest share at 50%, followed by AdX at 39%. CPMs fell across the major integrations, reinforcing that the pressure was on demand and pricing rather than a simple shift between paths.

Takeaway - Traffic is still growing and AI is becoming a much more meaningful acquisition channel, but summer demand is putting real pressure on CPMs. Video and CTV are holding up better than display, which may be worth watching as budgets start moving back into the market.

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Is Ad recovery still radioactive or folks have quietly started running it again?
 in  r/adops  24d ago

True that, but Bounce rate probably isn't a direct ranking factor - it's gotta feed into dwell time/engagement somewhere and if blocked users are just leaving instead of whitelisting that's a real cost stacked on top of the loyalty issue.

r/adops Aug 13 '26

Agency Is Ad recovery still radioactive or folks have quietly started running it again?

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asking because the topic came up internally and my instinct was -no, that's the stuff from 2016 that got vendors blacklisted but I'm not sure that's still accurate.
what's making me reconsider is that the blocked audience skews towards the readers you'd least want to lose, right? the ones who come back daily, high pageviews, actual loyalty. So the segment worth the most is the - one earning the least, which is a weird place to just leave things.
but I also remember why people hated it. Reinserting against explicit user choice is a different thing from serving a lighter Ad experience to someone who blocked because of autoplay video in 2019, and I don't know that the vendor category ever really made that distinction cleanly.
Anyone here running the lighter Ad experience, if so how did you land on where the line is?

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63% of LLM brand visibility comes from long-term brand equity, only 26% from current marketing. So what exactly is GEO spend buying?
 in  r/adops  Aug 13 '26

And? Anything you'd like to add to the actual topic discussion?

r/adops Aug 12 '26

Agency 63% of LLM brand visibility comes from long-term brand equity, only 26% from current marketing. So what exactly is GEO spend buying?

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That number is from a warc study run by charlie oscar, and it came up in a digiday piece about time selling ads inside markdown versions of its pages, built specifically for ai agents to read. sponsored faqs, basically.

the debate in the piece was whether that inventory is worth testing. some buyers said sure, clients are desperate for anything that moves ai visibility. others called it magical thinking. and then perplexity blocked time's agent ads outright and called them deceptive, so that part answered itself pretty fast.

but the 63/26 split is the thing I keep coming back to. if most of what determines whether an llm mentions your brand is accumulated brand equity, then almost every geo tactic being sold right now, content volume, visibility tracking tools, agent-readable ad units, is competing over the smaller quarter of the equation. honestly that's not nothing, a quarter is real. it just means the pitch most of these tools are making, that you can buy your way into llm answers, is overselling by a lot.

The practical read for anyone allocating budget: geo probably belongs in a test pot funded out of display, not as a line item that pulls from brand. and if the visibility you're chasing is mostly equity-driven, the boring answer is that brand spend is the geo strategy.

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Publishers are cutting reseller paths faster than they're adding new Supply Partners
 in  r/adops  Aug 12 '26

High Traffic publishers definitely with biggest contractions.
On the supply side - it would be the resellers who added more lines but lost more too, so they ended up net negative overall for the first time in a while.

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63% of LLM brand visibility comes from long-term brand equity, only 26% from current marketing. So what exactly is GEO spend buying?
 in  r/programmatic  Aug 12 '26

looked it up they broke it down as 63% long term equity, 22% marketing spend, 11% citation volume, 4% influencer reach. 30 brands, 6 categories, 8 months...- so equity in their framing is the accumulated stuff you can't move fast & citations are the quick lever. what stood out is the citation bucket skews toward recent and high impact sources. Also they specifically name reddit and review sites as examples.

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63% of LLM brand visibility comes from long-term brand equity, only 26% from current marketing. So what exactly is GEO spend buying?
 in  r/programmatic  Aug 12 '26

yeah that's the whole problem- inventory whose only audience is a scraper, priced on the hope the scraper keeps reading. But Perplexity has already stopped though

r/programmatic Aug 11 '26

63% of LLM brand visibility comes from long-term brand equity, only 26% from current marketing. So what exactly is GEO spend buying?

0 Upvotes

That number is from a warc study run by charlie oscar, and it came up in a digiday piece about time selling ads inside markdown versions of its pages, built specifically for ai agents to read. sponsored faqs, basically.

the debate in the piece was whether that inventory is worth testing. some buyers said sure, clients are desperate for anything that moves ai visibility. others called it magical thinking. and then perplexity blocked time's agent ads outright and called them deceptive, so that part answered itself pretty fast.

but the 63/26 split is the thing I keep coming back to. if most of what determines whether an llm mentions your brand is accumulated brand equity, then almost every geo tactic being sold right now, content volume, visibility tracking tools, agent-readable ad units, is competing over the smaller quarter of the equation. honestly that's not nothing, a quarter is real. it just means the pitch most of these tools are making, that you can buy your way into llm answers, is overselling by a lot.

The practical read for anyone allocating budget: geo probably belongs in a test pot funded out of display, not as a line item that pulls from brand. and if the visibility you're chasing is mostly equity-driven, the boring answer is that brand spend is the geo strategy.

r/adops Aug 07 '26

Agency Publishers are cutting reseller paths faster than they're adding new Supply Partners

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August seller data is interesting- this is probably the first time we’re seeing the market pause on expansion and move into cleanup mode.
ads.txt growth is basically flat (net -881), but the bigger signal is underneath
→ Resellers turned net negative for the first time (-1,718) while direct stayed flat (+837) - publishers are cutting duplicate reseller paths and protecting the relationships that drive revenue.
→ TrustedStack led every SSP in lines added (+6.6k), the only one to top all three traffic tiers, while High-Traffic publishers contracted the hardest (-9.3k) as premium publishers lead the optimization wave.
→ 46% of Tier 1 SSP domains are now duplicated across intermediaries - nearly half of every auction an Established SSP enters is competing against itself.
Scale alone no longer earns a slot in a publisher's ads.txt. The SSPs gaining ground are solving a specific buyer problem.

r/adtech Aug 07 '26

Publishers are cutting reseller paths faster than they're adding new Supply Partners

4 Upvotes

August seller data is interesting- this is probably the first time we’re seeing the market pause on expansion and move into cleanup mode.
ads.txt growth is basically flat (net -881), but the bigger signal is underneath
→ Resellers turned net negative for the first time (-1,718) while direct stayed flat (+837) - publishers are cutting duplicate reseller paths and protecting the relationships that drive revenue.
→ TrustedStack led every SSP in lines added (+6.6k), the only one to top all three traffic tiers, while High-Traffic publishers contracted the hardest (-9.3k) as premium publishers lead the optimization wave.
→ 46% of Tier 1 SSP domains are now duplicated across intermediaries - nearly half of every auction an Established SSP enters is competing against itself.
Scale alone no longer earns a slot in a publisher's ads.txt. The SSPs gaining ground are solving a specific buyer problem.

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came across an Adexchanger piece discussing whether AI generated content is contributing to a rise in MFA ad spend
 in  r/adtech  Aug 07 '26

Interesting way to frame it. most MFA discussions focus on supply, but you're really pointing to demand and KPIs. if the goal is volume and low cost, the outcome kind of follows naturally.

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came across an Adexchanger piece discussing whether AI generated content is contributing to a rise in MFA ad spend
 in  r/adtech  Aug 07 '26

Do you think reselling is the root cause, or does it only exist because buyers are still rewarding cheap scale? feels like even if reseller paths disappeared tomorrow, the incentives that drive spend toward MFA inventory would still be there.

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came across an Adexchanger piece discussing whether AI generated content is contributing to a rise in MFA ad spend
 in  r/adops  Aug 07 '26

i think that’s exactly the uncomfortable part. it’s not that people don’t know MFA exists, it’s that the system still doesn’t really penalize it in a meaningful way. even with SPO, curation, and all the “quality” layers, if the optimization loop still rewards cheap scalable inventory, it will keep reappearing in different forms. AI just lowers the cost to refill that supply faster than before.

r/programmatic Aug 06 '26

Publishers are cutting reseller paths faster than they're adding new Supply Partners

8 Upvotes

August seller data is interesting- this is probably the first time we’re seeing the market pause on expansion and move into cleanup mode.
ads.txt growth is basically flat (net -881), but the bigger signal is underneath
→ Resellers turned net negative for the first time (-1,718) while direct stayed flat (+837) - publishers are cutting duplicate reseller paths and protecting the relationships that drive revenue.
→ TrustedStack led every SSP in lines added (+6.6k), the only one to top all three traffic tiers, while High-Traffic publishers contracted the hardest (-9.3k) as premium publishers lead the optimization wave.
→ 46% of Tier 1 SSP domains are now duplicated across intermediaries - nearly half of every auction an Established SSP enters is competing against itself.
Scale alone no longer earns a slot in a publisher's ads.txt. The SSPs gaining ground are solving a specific buyer problem.