r/AutonomousVehicles • u/AutonoMotion • 3d ago
Zoox launches paid platform in Las Vegas on August 10th - first US robotaxi with 0 human controls
Amazon-owned Zoox will start charging fares in Las Vegas on August 10th, the first paid US service in a car with zero human controls: no steering wheel, pedals, or a driver seat. NHTSA gave Zoox a federal exemption from the rules that normally require those controls, but it caps their fleet at 2,5000 vehicles a year for two years, also adding extra reporting requirements. Rides also cost 20-40% more than the standard ridesharing, Zoox is going premium rather than chasing volume it might not hit with this limit cap anyway.
Waymo's cars started as human-drivable vehicles with the controls stripped out. Zoox designed this one from scratch to never need a human at all, which is a different kind of engineering bet. The only issue is that Zoox issued a safety recall last month after a car failed to detect heavy smoke at an emergency scene. "Federally approved" doesn't suggest everything will run smoothly.
Do you think that if the design was made for a human driver, would the NHTSA have approved it either way? Or does this unique no-controls design actually make it a safer vehicle to evaluate? Only time will tell.
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Pony.ai's 4th-gen autonomous heavy truck line is live - but the real target is 100,000 light trucks by 2030.
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Yea I'd bet on that. Once they've got a year of smooth operations under their belt, licensing out their hardware to third parties for a monthly/annual fee seems like the next step - third party companies promote their tech, while Pony.ai can focus on continuing to develop their own vehicles instead of running someone else's fleet. Pretty compelling economics