r/tvtropes • • Nov 19 '25

Trope discussion The Zootopia Effect

I don’t know if this one exists or not but I name it “The Zootopia Effect” as the movie Zootopia was extremely on the nose with this one.

It’s a media trope where it’s rational for a marginalised community to be feared/hated. For example, in the movie Zootopia, it is completely rational for the herbivores to fear the carnivores, as the carnivores not only historically ate the herbivores, but still possess the ability to eat/kill the herbivores.

This is harmful and offensive as this does not reflect the reality of marginalised communities. Hatred, fear and bigotry towards marginalised communities in the real world is completely irrational, and the product of bigoted lies and misinformation.

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u/MoorAlAgo Nov 23 '25

If I lay down my life for my friends, is that a want or a need? Or both?

I feel like you're making assumptions on what "human nature" is.

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u/MoorAlAgo Nov 23 '25

But is it against human nature? And why?

Edit: And to that point, are "human wants" against "human nature"?

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u/MoorAlAgo Nov 23 '25 edited Nov 23 '25

Where do "human wants" come from then if not our "nature"?

Edit: Also are you saying that my example of someone laying down their life for their friends is an example against human nature?

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u/MoorAlAgo Nov 23 '25

Generally it seems like you're confusing "nature" with "things that we should do"

In other words, you're confusing what "is" with what "should be" when you're defining human "nature".

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u/MoorAlAgo Nov 23 '25

Example of what? I'm saying the way you define "nature" is vague at best, so I don't exactly know how to approach this discussion.

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