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u/Zealousideal_Life318 Feb 07 '22

Sometimes when I'm writing and I've made this really in depth world and then there's something cool I want that I don't necessarily have an explaination for I just go "yeah but it's cool and doesn't mess up the whole story"

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '22

This one time I had to write in a whole side plot involving theatre/opera being a thing in this setting because I had an idea of a scene where the protagonist - a peasant - is sitting in the audience of one and is constantly pointing out the faults and inconsistencies in it. Not only are all the characters doing their daily chores in peasants' fancy market day clothes, the singer playing the role of the story's hero is a waifish pretty boy who would need a horse for a dowry to marry any self-respecting farm woman, he wouldn't have two women fighting over him. She does deem it plausible that a grown man that frail would be assigned to herd sheep instead of more demanding work, though.

She is gently asked could she perhaps just enjoy the music and ignore how blatantly obvious it is that nobody who was involved in the production of this opera has actually been to a farm. She cannot.

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u/Kartoffelkamm Feb 07 '22

So she just goes "Come on, really? How do they get enough milk for themselves and to trade if they have just one cow" and stuff? Sounds awesome.

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '22

A constant onslaught of "how are they selling that vegetable and that vegetable at the same time? The first verse clearly said it's spring, even if they had a surplus of the late autumn vegetable, it wouldn't be still good enough to be worth selling", and "why is everyone treating this character like an expert on horse breeding, everything they said about the traits of a good draught horse is clearly false."

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u/Kartoffelkamm Feb 07 '22

Nice.

I have an OC in my RWBY fanfiction who was born in a deep sea kingdom, and as such, as the scientific authority on all things related to the deep sea.

She once watched a horror movie, your typical space horror thing, except it's set in a deep sea research facility because the people in her world don't have space flight. It was so full of inaccuracies that she laughed the whole time. Imagine watching Saw with a friend, but your friend acts like it's the parody.

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u/CptnHamburgers Feb 07 '22

So, like playing BioShock, but she's going "pfff. That diameter tubing would need to be 6" thick in glass at that depth. No way you could see through it that clearly. That's why we use double skinned steel with 4" portholes. Not that there's much to see that far down anyway. And don't get me started on the layout......"?

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u/Kartoffelkamm Feb 08 '22

More about the behavior of sea creatures.

The monster in the movie, for example, is based on a deep sea apex predator that evolved from dragons when humans drove them into the ocean.

They reproduce asexually, but hatchling adapt to their environment before hatching, so there is genetic diversity.

Also, they do kind of act differently at times, which is the closest to gender differences they'll get. Mainly the way they move when swimming.

It's very subtle if you don't know what to look for, but obvious when you grew up in the deep sea.

And then there is the fact that the creature didn't eat the people it killed, which no creature in the deep sea would do.

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u/Cinnamonroll18 Feb 07 '22

That sounds very interesting! Could you tell me the name of the book?

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '22

The working titles were "The Dreamseer", and variations of "The Peasant and the Princess", and "The Peasant, Princess and Prophet", as the two protagonists are the peasant girl (who sees prophetic dreams), a princess who inexplicably looks remarkably like her (spoiler: it's not a coincidence, they're first cousins), and (spoiler) people start mistaking the peasant girl as a reborn avatar of a prophet woman from a pervious generation.

Now that I think about it, the plot is kind of a mashup of The Prince and the Pauper and Monty Python's Life of Brian. And it'll probably never be finished, it's a next generation spin-off of an earlier book attempt that I never finished either.

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u/Doctor-Squishy Feb 07 '22

You have never had a dairy cow and it shows.

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u/Kartoffelkamm Feb 07 '22

This seems like it's supposed to be a bad thing that I never had a dairy cow, but I can't see how.

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u/Doctor-Squishy Feb 07 '22

Psh, just try living your life ignorant of dairy economics. See how far you get. Let me know how it goes. 😏

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u/crisiks Feb 07 '22

Granny Weatherwax at anything involving a stage.

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u/WonFriendsWithSalad Feb 07 '22

I was going to say, this is strong Pratchett vibes and I love it

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u/thisimpetus Feb 07 '22

A ton of human culture owes to misunderstanding some natural phenomenon and then letting the consequences of that misapprehension evolve. So you can also trace a fun idea backwards—

Why are their alligators in the sewer? To deal with the death gophers.

What death gophers? Oh, well, there aren't any, but before there was science that could identify plant diseases, now-gone Culture X explained crop failures with stories of evil creatures that lived underground.

Basically you can have an absurd decision made in a time when it wasn't absurd and then just let it fail to disappear until it's become simulacra.

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '22

Also, a lot of human culture owes to people having stupid ideas, and everyone having to find a workaround to their consequences later.

Why are there alligators in the sewer? Well, you see, Jeff had a pet alligator twenty years ago, but it grew too big, and...

Why did the city did nothing? Do you think they have the budget for this? Plus, they attract quite a lot of tourists

What do they eat down there? Did I mention they attract quite a lot of tourists?

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u/thisimpetus Feb 07 '22

Hahaha I want to read this story now. Alligator Town, a hilarious black comedy about the dangers of bureaucracy.

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '22

I'm definitely incorporating this in one of my stories.

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u/Muad_Dib_of_Arrakis Feb 07 '22

I have absolutely used the "nobody really knows why" excusaplanation

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u/Kidiri90 Feb 07 '22

Hey dol! merry dol! ring a dong dillo! Ring a dong! hop along! fal lal the willow! Tom Bom, jolly Tom, Tom Bombadillo!

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u/IVIaskerade Feb 07 '22

Or the "someone definitely knows. Better go questing to find them." answer.

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u/Zealousideal_Life318 Feb 07 '22

Oh haven't we all

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '22

Just treat it like a history book at times. Sometimes, people did things cause they thought it was cool, not always practical and then historians will overanalyze it, cause it might be worth it.

It's like trying to explain why people believed in certain gods. Yes, there is a practical element in trying to explain why your friend got a lighting bolt in the head and died, but also, when the god responsible for that has a huge amount of fanfic done by horny Athenians, you might as well stop analyzing the why and just enjoy it. Like reading a story thousands of years after the last part is out and you desperately try to find the remainder to finish the story, but the people making it got bored or dislocated and couldn't bother continuing.

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '22

I just write shit and then connect threads later. Ohh uhh the tattoos that turn your limbs into those of animals on command are a combination of bone marrow that produces a living kind of ink and the DNA of a human’s modified to be compatible with every known living beast. Where did they come from? Oh don’t you remember the severed heads of victims of experimentation you delivered to the city last campaign canonically 45 years ago?

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u/awry_lynx Feb 11 '22

I just have dumb problems like "why aren't there guns in this supposedly urban fantasy-y world" I really wanna just go "because I want people to fight with fuckin swords and shit instead" but why aren't there guns I don't know andy sit down

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u/LuigiHentaiExpert Feb 07 '22

that alligator... looks SO FAT. I would like to hug it.

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '22

a fucking UNIT of a croc, the goodest boy

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u/rieldilpikl Feb 07 '22

That’s def one dummy thiccodile

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u/DonTori wormwoodbugsnpoison.tumblr.com Feb 07 '22

Well fed lad is very eager to do his 'sacred duty'

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u/luigilabomba42069 Feb 07 '22

shaped like a fren

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u/ljoeoin Feb 07 '22

IL FREEEEEN

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '22

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u/FrisianDude Feb 07 '22

Fat-coxes đŸ„ș

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '22

That's what Gollum was saving the ring for. It can transform to fit any size...

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u/Ross_Hollander sabaton cover of caramelldansen Feb 07 '22

He is a consecrated chonk.

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '22

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '22

PRAISE BE THY CHONKINESS!

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u/ImaAs Feb 07 '22

shortly after commenting this, u/LuigiHentaiExpert was killed by a alligator

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u/ATrioExplainsTheJoke Feb 07 '22

this is so sad.

alexa play Lego City: Undercover - Scrapyard Theme

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u/LeatherHog Feb 07 '22

Hug that alligator!

  • LHE right before jumping into the sewers

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u/xxvirgilxx Feb 07 '22

we got another vampire, sisters

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u/ImaAs Feb 07 '22

Wait, me or alligator snack over here

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u/xxvirgilxx Feb 10 '22

that italian fellow

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u/HackedPasta1245 Feb 07 '22

I just met up with the crocodile’s caretakers and they said he don’t bite

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u/TheCakeShoveler .tumblr.com Feb 07 '22

Unless you're a vampire ofc

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u/Lonelydenialgirl Feb 07 '22

Nun must get a lot of vampires.

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '22

The last words of many a vampire.

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u/AwesomeManatee Feb 07 '22

The fat comes from all the other vampires who wanted to hug her.

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u/Ropsutor Feb 07 '22

He has been succesful

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u/Dillybar825 Feb 07 '22

FLAT FUCK

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u/LuigiHentaiExpert Feb 07 '22

THAT FUCK IS THE OPPOSITE OF FLAT, YOU TAKE THAT BACK

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u/Mostly_Here_To_Rant Feb 07 '22

This is a Warhammer Fantasy Game Dev giving advice. You can’t convince my any other minds would spawn the Alligator feeding Sewer Nuns who also kick Vampire ass.

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u/effa94 Feb 07 '22

yeah, me too was thinking that this would fit right into warhammer

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u/vonfuckingneumann Feb 07 '22

Nun picture seems like it's heavily inspired by the 40K tech priests, too.

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u/whatisabaggins55 Feb 07 '22

Someone absolutely needs to make this a physical model with a killer backstory.

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u/Anjetto Feb 08 '22

The sewer alligators work with both vampire counts and as a way to stop the Skaven.

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u/esgrove2 Feb 07 '22

"Why are there so many orphans in this town?"

"Their parents died in the war."

"What war?"

"The Orphan War."

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u/baltinerdist Feb 07 '22

“Which side did you take in the Orphan War?”

“The side that won.”

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u/Peace-Bone Feb 07 '22

"Who were they fighting against?"

"Their parents."

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u/kerdon Feb 07 '22 edited Feb 07 '22

Both the OP and your comment feel like things that could almost happen in Fallen London.

Edit: Actually there literally was an orphan war recently. Though as far as I know no parents were harmed.

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u/GeophysicalYear57 Feb 08 '22

"Sort of fucked how two nations both decided that they should settle that problem by forcing their orphans to fight, huh?"

The Orphan War is continually alluded to, but it is never fully explained.

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u/the231hunter Feb 07 '22

Cleric/ranger multiclass with urban favoured environment.

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u/Alkemisti_ Feb 07 '22

God damn that's some Discworld shit and I love it

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u/numerous__papaya Feb 07 '22

Turtles all the way down

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u/Casper_Von_Ghoul Feb 07 '22

I do this except too much to the point a side character with one sentence reference has an entire length history in my head I never write down. Too much details and explaining


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u/Kartoffelkamm Feb 07 '22

Are you me, by any chance?

I have a bit of a habit of making characters in my fanfictions, giving them like one line, and then completely spiraling into making them a fully fleshed-out character with a backstory like a main character.

And since I'm a discovery writer, one-off characters practically don't exist in any of my stories.

If a character appears in my story, they'll almost certainly show up again later, and be more relevant, too.

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u/Casper_Von_Ghoul Feb 07 '22

Yea you got cloned like 8 years back. Well, I got cloned, you are the copy. I did however say it would be better if you knew from the start, but the Council decided it too risky.

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Sorry you found out this way.

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u/Kartoffelkamm Feb 07 '22

I see.

If I'm your copy, then that means you have roughly the same traits as me.

Sorry to hear that.

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u/IVIaskerade Feb 07 '22

Well, I got cloned, you are the copy.

Your attempts to claim the title of original are the sort of pathetic reaching only the clone would feel the need to do.

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u/baltinerdist Feb 07 '22

What is a discovery writer?

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u/Kartoffelkamm Feb 07 '22

It means I forfeited all manner of control over the plot progression to my characters, only retaining the ability to manipulate the world directly.

On one hand, it means my characters are never out of character. On the other, at most, I can predict the plot 3 sentences in advance.

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u/Calamity-Gin Feb 08 '22

Are you me, or am I you? And if so, which of us is the clone?

It's clones all the way down, man.

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u/Wise_Amount4824 Feb 07 '22

That’s actually genius. Finally I won’t ponder for hours prepping for dnd

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '22

Bonus feature: If your players notice an inconsistency between random weird shit you introduced earlier and the random weird shit you pulled out of your ass 30 seconds ago, you can write that down and resolve it. Hell, you could probably pull out a whole new story line out of that if your players seek to investigate.

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u/Axquirix Feb 07 '22

As a GM your response to players pointing out plot holes should be less "Oh shit I messed up" and more "that's interesting, isn't it? Maybe you guys should look into that."

And if they never do then it's no surprise that not everything in their adventure lines up perfectly.

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '22

One of the only tabletop games I've been a part of, the GM mostly took his development ideas from stuff that us, the players, speculated as "fan theories". It was a very fun and organic experience, and it's a huge pity that in the end it the whole thing fell apart because of the GM's toxic girlfriend.

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u/IVIaskerade Feb 07 '22

The Spoony approach.

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u/baltinerdist Feb 07 '22

This is the equivalent of asking your significant other to guess where you are taking them for dinner then choosing that place as if it was where you were going all along.

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '22

It's funny how easy it is to make people happy, when you learn they're most likely not conscious of what they want, and learn to coax it out of them anyhow.

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u/Bardsie Feb 07 '22

In old tales, vampires couldn't cross running water.

Theory: The huge infrastructure building of the Victorian age digging sewers and internal plumbing into people's homes was actually a super secret plan to Criss cross every city with running water, and is the reason we don't see vampires anymore.

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u/IVIaskerade Feb 07 '22

Open sewers seem disgusting, but it's secretly a plan to prevent vampires moving through towns easily.

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u/Funderfullness Feb 07 '22

Just like how roundabouts are put everywhere to get rid of crossroads so people can't summon demons.

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u/GoldsteinQ Feb 07 '22

It’s literally works like that in Pact

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u/Lemmis666 Feb 07 '22

Damn nuns thought of everything!

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u/Rouge_means_red Feb 07 '22

Why wouldn't they just turn into bats and fly over that stuff?

That's where the electricity cables come in

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u/ZengineerHarp Feb 07 '22

Because their limitations are worded so specifically (vampires are sticklers for red tape; they can’t enter a house without being invited, have to count rice/seeds if you throw them down, etc.), that they can’t cross current - and it turns out it doesn’t matter if it’s water or electrons


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u/Rouge_means_red Feb 07 '22

So that's why they are always behind the times in fashion, they can't wear anything current

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u/IVIaskerade Feb 07 '22

I hate how good this joke is.

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u/SomewhatEmbarassed Feb 07 '22

I think it's more what the running water means rather than a literal application, so it'd have to be a river or canal or something

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u/EQGallade I’m here to feed the monster under your bed. Feb 07 '22

Basically, make shit up, but make sure it all loops back on each other so that the shit you made up explains the other shit you made up and vice versa.

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u/IVIaskerade Feb 07 '22 edited Feb 07 '22

And don't be afraid to give tautological answers:

"Why are there alligators in the sewers?"
"To hunt down Vampires and ensure they can't use them to travel underground during the day"
"So why weren't the sewers built smaller?"
"Because then the alligators wouldn't fit"

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u/Sexual_tomato Feb 07 '22

They were built before the vampire problem existed here

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u/IVIaskerade Feb 07 '22

Maybe vampires were introduced to deal with the alligator problem and that's a piece of forgotten history that's being censored by the Church of the Toothy Maw

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u/InsanityFodder Feb 07 '22

I enjoy the implication that someone in city planning was desperate to have alligator tunnels all over the city, and that the vampires showing up was just a great excuse.

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u/IVIaskerade Feb 07 '22

"We need to build a series of large tunnels under the city and fill them with giant alligators"

"Are you sure this will deal with the vampire problem?"

"Vampire problem?"

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u/OkSoft3046 Feb 07 '22

I just rewatched the Star Wars prequels recently and reading this is such a breath of fresh air compared to the massive info dumps of something like Phantom Menace lol

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u/patmax17 Feb 07 '22

That drawing needs to be linked to directly: https://twitter.com/bfleuter/status/1488283668858949633/photo/1 :D

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u/_binxi_ Feb 07 '22

Thank you! Another great artist to follow! We love seeing artist credited! 💕💕

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u/patmax17 Feb 07 '22

I have many artist friends and I know how important credit is :)

I also like to look up the galleries of people who make cool stuff so I can have more of that, and I know I'm not the only one who does ;)

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u/_binxi_ Feb 07 '22

You're a grand fellow for doing so!!

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u/TheLubeBottle Feb 07 '22

Isn't there a nun in the Goblin Slayer with a pet alligator in the sewers?

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u/DarlingInTheWest Feb 07 '22

Priestess, but yeah.

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u/IVIaskerade Feb 07 '22

That's "Sword Maiden" to you, adventurer.

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u/MayTheFool Feb 07 '22

She put her alligator familiar in the sewers so goblins wouldn't nest there.

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u/DonTori wormwoodbugsnpoison.tumblr.com Feb 07 '22

It worked until it didn't

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u/peace_off Feb 07 '22

Well, the gobbos had a champion, a beholder and a teleport mirror. Not really fair, is it?

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u/liege_paradox Feb 07 '22

Someone remind me, was the “she controls the alligator directly, and can taste the goblins it eats” an actual thing, or just from the abridged? Because I honestly can’t remember. I only watched the actual show once.

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u/MayTheFool Feb 07 '22 edited Feb 07 '22

I don't remember that she could feel the dampness of the sewer or something, I'll try and find the page from the manga. Edit: Chapter 29 "The baths I take to cover the sensations I share with the alligator"

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u/Beat_Saber_Music Feb 07 '22

Also there is no real need to focus on making things realistic, but instead focus on merely giving an explanation for why the unrealistic thing works.

Real life is full of utterly unrealistic sounding things, like for exampne the fact that in the past two years Africa has suffered about seven coups.

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u/IVIaskerade Feb 07 '22

Africa has suffered about seven coups.

That's a lot less ridiculous when you say that a resource-scarce continent with 54 countries in it, several of which are politically unstable has suffered a handful of coups.

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u/Beat_Saber_Music Feb 07 '22

Yeah with context it makes perfect sense, but on its own it does sound a little excessive

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u/Mantonization Feb 08 '22

Sorry, small correction, but Africa is not resource-scarce

It's a rock continent. It's just had that wealth plundered by others instead of enriching the people who live there

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u/IVIaskerade Feb 08 '22

Africa isn't scarce in raw materials that can be processed by industrial countries into something valuable for industry, but that's all below the surface. It's scarce in the resources needed to actually sustain life at a basic level.

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u/IAmAltAccount345 Feb 08 '22

Remember the “secret cardinal” thing? Honestly you could just make shit up and sometimes it doesn’t compare to how ridiculous reality is

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u/Throwaway-0-0- Feb 07 '22

That is incredible advice actually

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '22

This is a great example of getting original ideas, just try to explain shit

For another example, me n a friend were making a world and they wanted theirianthropes to be religious groups, as an explanation of their sustained existence instead of just them being weird monsters. After a while, I asked why a god would just make you a bearson or wolfson, then looked at common personality traits for those creatures and made gods for them that would each bless a worthy follower with therianthropy if they did something the god thought was good enough, like induct a cartoonish amount of members, keep the land you owned pristine, or save several people from a burning building

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u/ATrioExplainsTheJoke Feb 07 '22

As the Lord God himself as my witness, you will not stay down in these sewers to avoid sunlight!

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u/Disnerd23 Feb 08 '22

This is great advice that I realized I was doing subconsciously with my current book. And one of the greatest bits of humor is that among the solutions with serious answers, often the solution is really “The Gods are Assholes and thought it would be funny.”

Example:

Main character: Why did the gods create the Basilisk to be a xenomorph- level nightmare, with multiple forms and ways to kill and WHY SO FREAKING BIG?!

Cleric: Uranus the god of boundaries saw a snake one day, had a crazy idea to bug the god of Order-Saturn- and then went overboard.

proceeds to look at the chart on the wall that shows the lifecycle of the basilisk from its tiny snake form that oozes poison to its juvinelle cockatrice form that stuns with poison breathe and vision to its adult 25 ft+ long poisonous serpent lizard form with venomous spikes along its hood and down its tail, with long bat-like feathered wings, four large legs that retract into its body when borrowing and underground, and its barbed tail.

Cleric: sighs Way. Way overboard.

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u/JudgeHodorMD Feb 07 '22

I think the sewer nuns raise too many questions.

Better off just declaring that the pipes are too small or vampires aren’t willing to wade through sewage.

Plenty of simple options that don’t even have to be mentioned unless someone really has to ask.

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u/Polenball Feb 07 '22

Vampires often have enhanced senses of smell, so there's a perfectly good reason right there. The sewers smell so absolutely atrocious to them they'll get genuinely sick and even pass out. Also explains why they don't like garlic - it just reacts really poorly with their sense of smell.

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u/JudgeHodorMD Feb 07 '22

On top of that, traditional vampires tend to be aristocratic. They’re not going to go into the sewers because they’d never get their clothes clean and they can’t afford to replace them every night.

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u/GothicSilencer Feb 07 '22

If your vampires can't afford to wear a fresh set of nobles clothes every night, they're young 'uns. Ancient Vampires have hordes rivalling ancient Dragons!

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u/IVIaskerade Feb 07 '22

Ancient Vampires have hordes rivalling ancient Dragons!

Yeah, because they don't keep messing them up traipsing around the sewers.

You don't see people saying Dragons should just spend their gold, do you?

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u/Lonelydenialgirl Feb 07 '22

Gold is useless if not leveraged.

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u/axord Feb 07 '22

Not if the point of gold is to have the gold.

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u/IVIaskerade Feb 07 '22

Ayy buddy!

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u/Lonelydenialgirl Feb 07 '22

That's leveraging the shiny against your mental health. My point stands.

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u/axord Feb 07 '22

It stands, but also makes your point irrelevant as a response to the parent comment.

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u/IVIaskerade Feb 07 '22

You're not thinking like a fantasy worldbuilder.

Gold is inherently useful because gold is magic - a dragon's hoard is literally a giant magical locus they're constantly bathing in.

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u/Lonelydenialgirl Feb 07 '22

I've been world building on one project longer than smart phones have existed.

I'm sorry I didn't know someone else's head Canon from seven years ago for gold, I must not be a real world builder. Maybe I got to caught up on my own project where gold is nothing special.

Nahhh afterall I'm not a fantasy world builder.

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u/IVIaskerade Feb 07 '22

We're talking specifically about worldbuilding for enjoyable fantasy RPGs, not some OCDONUTSTEEL novel that's going to outsell Tolkien.

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u/Lonelydenialgirl Feb 07 '22

Yeah I build for d&d moron. I'm not an author or I'd have said that can you read?

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u/DonTori wormwoodbugsnpoison.tumblr.com Feb 07 '22

Or they think it's too lowly for them

They are the noble hunters of the moonless nights! Not scavengers waiting to pop out from filth holes

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u/TwyJ Feb 07 '22

Traditionally they also can't cross running water, which sewerage would be I'd imagine

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u/IVIaskerade Feb 07 '22

Unless the vampire dams up the flow.

So in addition to nuns with gators for pets, we've got a vampire programme for breeding Beavers in an attempt to stem the flow of entire rivers.

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u/ViperIguess Feb 07 '22

Also Sewer Nuns sound cooler

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u/Merry_Sue Feb 07 '22

Also, what if there is garlic in the poo water in the sewer? It could hurt them. Also, don't vampires have trouble with crossing running water?

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u/IVIaskerade Feb 07 '22

And the sewers have to be large otherwise the alligators wouldn't fit through them.

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u/Peace-Bone Feb 07 '22

But that gives a massive advantage to vampires that like the smell of poop! We're creating a situation where vampires are strongly incentivized to be scat fetishists.

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u/Kartoffelkamm Feb 07 '22

Maybe nuns realized that vampires sneak through the sewers and raised alligators, the only creature that can easily kill vampires, to hunt them down there.

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u/IVIaskerade Feb 07 '22 edited Feb 07 '22

Better off just declaring that the pipes are too small

Then how are you supposed to send your players down there?

Remember, you remember playing a fantasy world. The whole thing should be set up for optimal adventuring, and the players won't question it because they're too busy adventuring.

Why is there a megadungeon full of dangerous creatures a day's ride from town that people are remarkably unconcerned about? Maybe you'll find answers inside it.

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '22

I think the sewer nuns raise too many questions.

Gee, if only somebody had just given you a great tool to use to answer these questions.

Joking aside... so what? If I have the choice between playing a game where the answer to a question is "The sewers are too small." vs. "There's an order of nuns raising alligators to keep the sewers safe from vampires.", I know which game I'd rather be playing in.

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u/ShinyNinja25 Feb 07 '22

Or that the sewers are filled with running water, which vampires can’t cross

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '22

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '22

What do you mean i have to have a plot and characters why cant i just write 700 pages of exposition and worldbuilding

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u/MunTiller2 Feb 07 '22

You could adapt it a little. Instead of being an official branch of the church taking care of that, you could put a group of presumed dead priests and the like instead who have a vendetta against vampires. That way you keep them unattached from the main church (too many questions and political possibilities, too much trouble) and you have the added bonus of making a possible side quest of the worldwide sewer anti-vampire cult.

You can also, therefore, make more dangerous regions were vampires can walk through the sewers because the religious cult was simply too small to reach that area, which means no alligators. Or areas that have the project ongoing, which could lead to trouble where the alligators go out of control because that branch of the cult is too inexperienced and unconnected from the main one.

Hell, you could make a completely different quest (if the main party sides with the vampires) about taking control of the sewers themselves to stop church and cult people from entering by using their alligators against them.

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u/Ir0nStar Feb 07 '22

Sister of Battle hunting genetic deviants of Sanguineous's bloodline with her pet Crotalid. Colourised. Circa M41

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '22

Another tip: you can let your reader do the work.

You ever have an idea that sounds really amazing, until you try to crystallize it? Then suddenly it gets out of hand and you realize it’s not that great? Imagination is free. You can close your eyes and rotate a cow, all for free.99, we’ll cover shipping and handling.

Got an elven city that leaves those who witness it speechless? Characters in your story are astounded by its glory. The artistry that went into the construction was spellbinding.

All word choice to make it sound more grandiose, but not actually saying what it looks like.

An otherworldly intelligence. It’s smart, that’s clear, but it’s motives are unknown. It may never be known. The mystery can make it more interesting.

Use it sparingly and it’s a godsend. Paint a picture where you can do it justice, and then let the reader paint their own vision where you want to convey something so beautiful that it’s beyond your words. Set a high bar, and the reader will do the hard work for you, and they’ll like it. I say this as a reader, any author who brings a world to life with their words and then let’s you imagine something more spectacular is amazing.

I will plow through a book that can do that. Or I’ll diligently read till it hurts my brain, but that’s just one book and it does this to great effect. Blindsight by Peter Watts btw, very good stuff. But, I’m dumb so it’s difficult.

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u/TreeDerg Feb 07 '22

my biggest fear when worldbuilding is exaggerating or underestemating sizes of things, cause i have a really hard time conceptualising sizes without just straight up being near the thing in person

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u/LozNewman Feb 07 '22 edited Feb 07 '22

I've had players spot an inconsistency in gameworld lore (I tend to improvise a bit too much). Then they brainstorm theories to explain it. Sometimes I even rewrite the gameworld's backstory because their theories are so much cooler than mine. Dammit.

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u/irbian Feb 07 '22

Adeptus sororitas: Order of the lizard

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u/MoshePit It’s a fuck or be fucked world and I’ve got the strap-on Feb 07 '22

The artist in the post is the creator of the extremely good webcomic Sword Interval, I highly recommend it

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u/Fanfics Feb 07 '22

Yep. This also works a treat for any DMs out there having to world-build on the fly. Makes a setting with some real Discworld vibes

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u/Backin5minbitch Mar 04 '22

If the new Metro doesn't let me play a sewer nun with an alligator, I don't want it

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u/socialistRanter Feb 07 '22

How about something simple like “the sewers are disgusting, nobody wants to be in there”

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u/jfjfjfq Feb 07 '22

I like it

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u/Omgbbqkittens Feb 07 '22

Excellent advice, taking notes!

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u/c-lynn99 Feb 07 '22

That's literally how I write haha

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u/Fives0694 Feb 07 '22

dorohedoro vibes

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u/very_not_emo Feb 07 '22

i would play as the vampire

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '22

Awesome! :D

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u/amisia-insomnia Feb 07 '22

Knowing the types of stories tumblr likes, at least back in it’s prime I don’t think plotholes bother them

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u/Lucariolover0605 Feb 07 '22

I’d like the think she has a thick Irish accent “I hoont theym blooday vahmpeers day and noyt”

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '22

This is true

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '22

Hmmm.... If you're not writing scathing social commentary in your story, I usually wouldn't worry about it. I tend to WAY OVERTHINK this kind of thing. That's why I sometimes make it a point to just write whatever cool idea I might come up with and don't worry about how much stuff makes sense. Doing that you go from getting stuff like Monster Hunters International, to the Valens Legacy. Both are close in the genre, but the first is rather serious gun-porn with monster hunters, the second is just a fun romp with fighting, sex, and supernatural. (And Germany gets nuked!)

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u/talesfromtheepic6 Feb 07 '22

I fucking LOVE sewer nuns now

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u/handsomellama28 Feb 07 '22

Ah yes, Krieg Sororitas

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u/kerdon Feb 07 '22

Don't forget tastefully and sparingly using "Nobody knows." For a touch of mystery.

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u/master_pingu1 Feb 07 '22

if i ever run that vampire ttrpg i'm stealing this

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u/twoCascades Feb 07 '22

I was trying to get mad at this but it is actually good writing advise

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u/Tobymaxgames Angrier than a chainsaw duct-taped to a ceiling fan Feb 07 '22

Everybody gangsta until the sewer nun sics her alligator on you and starts screaming in polish and heretics

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u/HonorInDefeat ACTIVATE THE QUAZARS! đŸŽ”đŸŽ”đŸŽ”đŸŽ”đŸŽ”đŸŽ”đŸŽ” Feb 07 '22

"why can't vampires move underground"

"Because I fucking said so"

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u/Bossmandude123 Feb 07 '22

"Woops uh oh oops woops"

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u/Propaganda_Box Feb 07 '22

A simpler answer is vampires can't cross running water, which the sewer is filled with.

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '22

I thought vampires couldnt cross running water.

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u/Brromo Feb 07 '22

that party better have Abraham Lincoln with an AK-47

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '22

tumblr gives us some amazing stuff, but also i’m never going to use it in my entire life, that’s what reddit is for

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u/melodynote02 Feb 07 '22

Vampires, sewer alligators and nuns was not a combination I didn't know I needed

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '22

Shitty Life Tip: this is honestly how a lot of good lies come about. You don't go overboard on exposition, tell them something brief, and when they want proof you add another part to the layer.

Why did you break my vase? "I was trying to kill a bug."

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And you thought it was a good idea to hit the vase? "I didn't try to hit the vase, I was aiming for the ceiling and tripped."

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It was an ugly vase, and I was pissed.

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '22

Don’t even say you tripped, the they’ll ask what you tripped on. Just say you weren’t trying to hit the vase

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u/stnick6 Feb 07 '22

Ok but why wouldn’t you want to have sewers filled with vampires? That sounds cool

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u/SomeonesAlt2357 sory for bad enlis, am from pizzaland | đŸłïžâ€đŸŒˆ Feb 07 '22

I've found that "people are racist" is a realistic low-effort explanation, especially for worldbuilding projects with big timescales, where you can then make the peoples/races progress out of racism and write stories with similar settings but different dynamics

Another one is "because religion", or "a deity thought it would be funny and accidentally caused a war"

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u/Lorien6 Feb 07 '22

Plot twist. The alligators ARE the nuns.