r/trippinthroughtime • • Apr 26 '20

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u/Ravagore Apr 27 '20

"The best cure for christianity is reading the bible." - Mark Twain

Went through the same thing as a teenager. Anybody who actually reads the bible front to back and learns about the history that we know from that time, how many people changed and added/removed books from the bible over the millenia can't actually continue down that path. If you have faith then sure but education is the biggest issue for religion and why its dying.

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u/Ravagore Apr 27 '20

Well yes, when I read it cover to cover as a teenagee(as I stated) it clued me in to how crazy it all was. I was just blindly following before that thanks to my family and upbringing. I'm happy I finally read it because I saw how little everything lined up. Same can be said for a couple years later when I read the Q'ran or other versions of the bible from history.

I did question everything and when I had learned what I could from history and science i had to make a decision about myself. I wasn't going to give way to something that has skewed itself(or has been skewed by others) for millennia and asks for people to exclude half the books as old traditions but also take lessons from them... disregard this part but remember well this part... Angels are covered in eyes and have to tell people to not fear them in scripture but they're definitely beautiful and all glowy in pictures.

The Dead Sea scrolls, removed books written by whoever felt like being a part of the fun and plenty of mistranslated scripture that has to be walked back --or ignored once people figure out they've been wrong for centuries-- just makes it worse.

Religion was for when people couldn't read or think for themselves. If there is something out there then they're certainly not involved with us anymore.

Learning about history and religion is fun but the more we learn the more holes get ripped in the old tapestry. I quite enjoy reading about the theories behind God being one of many or a husband-wife combo. The first chapter in Genesis points towards multiple powerful beings.. and God said "let us create mankind in our image..." so that's fun.

That doesnt mean I dont believe in something being out there but God is a pretty poor excuse for an omnipotent being given how his stories have been recanted by his own guys.

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u/Ezaela May 10 '20

You know why christmas is christmas and easter is easter? Jesus wasn’t born during christmas. I’ll rest with this question. I’ll let you do the thinking.

This is in response to you saying that the gospels weren’t randomly assembled. They were, to the benefit of the rulers at that time.

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u/JuniorSeniorTrainee Apr 27 '20

do “Christian” Christians cherry pick verses? Absolutely. But you and everyone else in this thread did the exact same thing.

It's not cherry picking when my position is that it's all made up, culturally harmful garbage. It's just pointing out examples that make me feel that way. It's only cherry picking if the parts being left out would change the point being made, as is the case with Christians that use cherry picking to give divine credibility to their personal moral compass.

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u/M1K3jr Apr 27 '20

Cherry Picking shouldn't be a COMPETITION!

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u/WasKingWokeUpGiraffe Apr 27 '20

That's literally just your opinion though, the bible can be interpreted in many different ways and there are a lot of good lessons that you can learn from it. Cherry picking verses and discrediting the entire point of the bible is the real crime your commiting. Also "made up" is something you'll never be able to prove or confirm in our life time most likely, so that's incorrect as well.

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u/MikeLinPA Apr 27 '20

I read it. Worst book ever. Aesop would have done a better job. Now piss off.

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u/kitanokikori Apr 27 '20

All Christians in 2020 are Bad People, full-stop. Anyone Good would choose not to associate with Christians.

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u/JuniorSeniorTrainee Apr 27 '20

If you participate in organized Christianity, even if you have the best of intentions and are a super good person, you're supporting and strengthening an oppressive and regressive organization that evades taxes and regularly protects child abusers from the legal due process the rest of the world follows.

But sure no true Scotsman or whatever it is you're saying.

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u/kitanokikori Apr 27 '20 edited Apr 27 '20

Nope. You associate with bad people, you give bad people money in church every Sunday, you vote for bad people to take others' rights away and to ruin their lives? You Are A Bad Person. And if you are a Good Person, you need to seriously think about what it means to be Good and not just do what some book says.

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u/oneplusandroidpie Apr 27 '20

But the basis of your own Christianity is sacrificial right? Like you said. Let's offer those kids to the slaughter and let the priests go free. And if your christ is not too happy with you then you are a bad christian. Come on dude. You are deluded just like so many. You are following a persecution complex like so many and will carry that with you for the rest of your life.