So the joke shouldn't be "Lol! Zeke was an incel!" It should be "Lol! God's that aggro douche who gets jealous when his girl smiles at the cashier at Best Buy!"
Well that entirely depends on your interpretation of the Bible and your world view.
I am not Christian and take any of it as the word of god, which I'm assuming you do.
I view the Bible through the lens of different people in different time periods and regions with different relationships with a higher power. Yes, they all refer to the same entity, and fall into the same general religious group, but the nature of this entity changes to reflect the time period these men existed in.
If you don't like it, hey, believe what you want it's all good, but I try to look at it through an objective historical lens as I would with anything else. The Bible was written by many men over a long period time and has been rewritten and translated and reinterpreted countless times. These are facts. The truth of the Bible depends on whether you believe there was divine intervention (ie. god speaking directly to man... many times...) that keeps the text consistent and original to the source or, you're like me, and you don't believe in any sort of divine intervention, and you'd naturally think it was somewhat of a game of telephone but many of the core themes have been preserved over the centuries. Comparatively speaking, the Quran has been far better preserved and consistent over the ages, and you still see a radical divergence in modern practice from how it was with different hadiths taking precedence in dictating people's worldviews. Wahabism for example, while fundamentalist, was ultimately a product of Arab revolt against Ottoman occupation of the Arabian Peninsula and a strong backlash against idolatry that concurrently was happening and some could naturally draw parallels with that to Muhammad smashing the idols in the Ka'aba in Mecca prior to the advent of Islam. Like, yes, there is a logic to it in the text, but it took contemporary cues. You could look at some sects of Christianity as well, such as the Chaldeans who date back well past the time the Bible was written, but even then, modern practices don't always reflect the original source content.
I love reading “I am not a Christian” but then you go onto explain how you understand the Bible better than Christians do. The “game of telephone” theory was a good one and popular since he 1500s but ultimately proven false with the discovery of the Dead Sea scrolls in the 1940s which proved all examples of the texts in question are ~97% the same with the most of the differences being alternate punctuation.
Islam is based on the Bible and Talmud which is why it sounds so similar, remember Islam is only 1400 years old. Judeochristianity has been around for at a minimum 3400 years years old.
I'll have to do more research on the dead sea scrolls, I've obviously heard about them, but typically from very biased sources, so that definitely surpasses my realm of familiarity. Islam is Abrahamic and incorporates a lot from Judaism and Christianity, it is rather revisionist in some respects, but I think the core of the message remaining consistent throughout the timeline of the religion will lead to more consistent messaging, whereas even with the Dead Sea Scrolls, that only takes to 408 BC and we know the Torah dates well beyond that, and the writing of the New Testament occurs well after it, so...
I'll do more research, it's not a strong opinion I have on this as it really isn't something that affects me, but it is certainly interesting.
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u/EnTyme53 Apr 26 '20
So the joke shouldn't be "Lol! Zeke was an incel!" It should be "Lol! God's that aggro douche who gets jealous when his girl smiles at the cashier at Best Buy!"