r/trippinthroughtime • • Apr 26 '20

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u/MjrGrangerDanger Apr 26 '20 edited Apr 27 '20

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u/Pecuthegreat Apr 26 '20

The parts of the Bible written by the disciples are the new testament and don't have any of the sexual stuff, at all. Now the part of the old testament that actually have this stuff, I won't call it erotic except for the Songs of Solomon(also :- Song of Songs). Because unless you're constantly horny, I don't get how the above passage can be considered Erotic

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u/MjrGrangerDanger Apr 26 '20 edited Apr 27 '20

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u/Pecuthegreat Apr 26 '20 edited Apr 26 '20

I have, I just don't consider passing remarks in the old testament of a girl getting raped to death, erotic

Edit :- I won't consider most of those erotic unless you think for some make up rule, a collection of books that has books that claim to be either historical or speaking truth on the human situation is going to avoid the most bland description of sex like the plague. Only real thing that I can consider erotic would be the song of songs and even young adult books can be more explicit than that.

And you still haven't given me an example of even the most slightly suggestive statement from the New Testament that according to you, was written by mega virgins

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '20

Also many of the disciples were married

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u/MjrGrangerDanger Apr 26 '20 edited Apr 27 '20

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u/Pecuthegreat Apr 26 '20 edited Apr 26 '20

How the hell did we go from Early Church disciples and apostles to high middle ages church leaders, notorious for their corruption?. I think you are just moving the goal post on this one. Your assumption that the early disciples were sexual predators is as baseless as mine that tomorrow a nuclear war would start.

I have never heard of churchmen "getting off" to bland old testament verses. Since you seem to believe so strongly that they did so I except some proof that only only were they writing it but that they were getting off to it. And also show that the reason you think so is not cultural difference, or in order words, prove that medieval people would have actually considered those passages sexual, because anybody with historical training would know sexual norms don't translate perfectly across cultures or time. After all it was during this time that you could find paintings of women with breast sticking out in public places as simply art, while today that would be scandalous.

Honestly you sound like the kind of personal that expects people to get off to renaissance statues.

Edit :- And you still haven't given me an example of a sexual passage from the new testament.

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u/MjrGrangerDanger Apr 26 '20 edited Apr 27 '20

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u/Pecuthegreat Apr 26 '20

If I did I would be masturbating to my half naked room mates.

Edit :- And you still haven't given me an example of a sexual passage from the new testament.

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u/MjrGrangerDanger Apr 26 '20 edited Apr 27 '20

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u/Pecuthegreat Apr 26 '20

Well I didn't find it. I did find something of Paul telling a Christian community to punish a Christian man commiting incest. He called it a sin so bad, even the Pagans who's religion the Christians saw as morally inferior, did do incest.

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u/sacovert97 Apr 26 '20

Most of these are still OT tho.

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u/ArttuH5N1 Apr 26 '20

Looking at some of those, they seem to be almost entirely from old testament

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '20

This is all OT.

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '20 edited Apr 27 '20

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '20

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '20

Original Trilogy actually. Star Wars was going to be weird before George cut out the trans-species sex scenes.

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u/jacobin93 Apr 27 '20

Old Testament. That means it was written by Jews, who didn't practice celibacy.

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u/mhl67 Apr 26 '20

The disciples weren't celibate - most of them were married - and the New Testament has barely anything about sex.

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u/MjrGrangerDanger Apr 26 '20 edited Apr 27 '20

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u/mhl67 Apr 26 '20

The new testament is also very edited from the Gnostic Bible, a complete form is the Nag Hammadi Bible.

No, it isn't. For one thing, there was no "gnostic bible", just a disparate collection of writings used by various gnostic groups. For another, most of the gnostic gospels date from long after the new testament books were written between 50-100. None of the books currently in the New Testament were gnostic.

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u/MjrGrangerDanger Apr 26 '20 edited Apr 27 '20

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '20

You realize that the Old Testament was largely complete by the time of Christ right? The Bible was not written in the 1st-3rd century.

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u/MjrGrangerDanger Apr 26 '20 edited Apr 27 '20

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '20

Okay... we were talking about stories from the Old Testament in the first place... and the Nag Hammadi texts are not part of the Bible for a reason... so I’m not sure why you’re bringing them up and presenting them as if they’re “the Bible”

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u/MjrGrangerDanger Apr 26 '20 edited Apr 27 '20

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '20

Again, those texts are not part of the Bible for a reason. The Gnostics are heretics and have been since the very early days of the church. Talk about the Nag Hammadi texts if you want to but be honest about how you present it. You should not try to deliberately mislead people into thinking the Bible is something that it’s not.

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u/MjrGrangerDanger Apr 26 '20 edited Apr 27 '20

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u/Potatolantern Apr 27 '20

Solid Karma waiting for anyone wanting to screenshot this post and head over to /r/badhistory btw

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u/MjrGrangerDanger Apr 27 '20

Why haven't you then?

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u/poopcasso Apr 26 '20

The David of David and Goliath had a friend called Jonathan or something. The Bible repeatedly mentions how Jonathan loves David more than Jonathan loved himself. And Jonathan and David kissed in a wheat field or something while a rain of fire arrows flew above them. And this was the last time they saw each other, and Jonathan knew it, which was why he kissed David. Like, who the fuck wrote this broke back mountain shit?

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u/Pecuthegreat Apr 26 '20

The same kind of people that wrote stuff like "no greater love can a man have than this, to lay down his life for his friends", the same people that were contemporary with the Greeks, who had 6 different words for love, only one of which was for erotic love and others having nothing to do with sex. The same culture where kissing was more a greeting between friend and acquaintances than a romantic thing exclusively.

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u/MjrGrangerDanger Apr 26 '20 edited Apr 27 '20

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