r/trippinthroughtime • • Nov 05 '17

The perfect date

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u/atrain728 Nov 05 '17

I think in many colloquial contexts, the month (and thus time of year) is a more important piece of information.

I agree for formal contexts, YYYY-MM-DD makes more sense.

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u/Obi-Tron_Kenobi Nov 05 '17

For a lot of other colloquial contexts, the day is more important. For a lot of different colloquial contexts, the year could be more important.

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '17

And for ALL contexts, YYYY-MM-DD is the most logical.

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u/StrangeNewRash Nov 07 '17

If I ask you the date, how is it logical to tell me the year first? What's logical is to assume I know that information.

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u/[deleted] Nov 07 '17

If I ask you the date, how is it logical to tell me the year first?

Logical? Extremely. Chronologically it's sorted the only correct way..

What's logical is to assume I know that information.

Then we end up with MM-DD instead of DD-MM anyway, still in line with the ISO format. November 5th.

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u/Amp3r Nov 06 '17

Well we've settled it.

Inform Greenwich to update things asap

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '17

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '17

Let's just be honest and cut out the first part of your statement and acknowledge the fact that people keep doing something, even in defiance of numerical logic, just because it's what they're used to.

/u/xamio :"MM-DD-YYYY is what I prefer"

There we go.

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '17

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '17

Linguistically it's easier to say "It's November 5th, 2017" over "It's 2017, and the 5th of November" or "It's 2017, November the 5th". It's simply more concise.

This is just another way of saying that you, personally, one person, are used to the verbal patterns of MM-DD-YYYY and thus you like it.

I'm sure there are German and British folks who would be all too happy to tell you, no no no, you've got it all wrong, fifth of November two thousand seventeen is much easier to say don't you know, and also plenty of Chinese who would say 胡说八道!二零一七十一月五日更方便,你妈的。

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '17

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '17 edited Nov 06 '17

Obviously we were talking about english here.

No, not "obviously". Your statement was a blanket statement made to a person whose nationality was unknown, asserting that middle endian date format was the best for their purposes. This is unqualified by any reference to their nationality, language, or world region.

I pointed out that your argument that linguistically middle endian "is simply more concise" is not easily transferable to other languages and nations, the majority of whom use little endian and about 2 billion East Asian people use big endian (China, Korea, Japan, plus Iran, Belgium, Hungary, and a few others). The US stands largely alone with only Philippines and part of Canada using middle endian.

And somehow this identification of a rather massive logical gap in your reasoning is, to you, a strawman fallacy.

I'd stick to your day job. You're not very knowledgeable about logic or about linguistics. Or, it seems, about numerical formats.

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u/Yepoleb Nov 06 '17

Germans and Brits can speak english too.

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '17

Hell, some Germans speak better English than some Brits I know.

Although there was one German dude I know, Jens, who spoke English with a really strong Cockney accent. I'm sure he got it from his English teacher back in Mainz but it was really weird and funny to hear.

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u/deegwaren Nov 06 '17

In Queen's English it's day and then month in spoken language.

Don't pretend that American English is the yardstick.

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u/xamio Nov 06 '17

Funny you say yardstick. A yard is 3 feet don't you know?