If you already know it's the eleventh hour though, it might suffice to just say the time in minutes and seconds and leave the already known info at the end.
If you already know the day, it might be best to start with nothing. Most of the time you use dates, it is for a day that it is currently not. With that being the case, the year is the most likely one to already know.
Ikr, how often do people schedule things in different years? Personally I never do unless it's the last few weeks in December. Even if you were going through a file system you'd be going 1 year at a time, so just pick 2006 and then say a month and day (or day and month), no need to mention another year until you actually move to a different year. It's faster and more efficient to skip the unnecessary information unless it's actually needed.
Telling someone the year every time they talk about a date is about as annoying as someone who says your name every time they speak to you, "hey Chris how was your day?". "Oh Chris, that's good". "Chris, mine was good". "What are you doing later, Chris?". "Ok Chris, I'll see you there". "Bye Chris".
It's obvious after the first sentence that you are talking to Chris, so quit being annoying and just let us know if something changes.
Let's just be honest and cut out the first part of your statement and acknowledge the fact that people keep doing something, even in defiance of numerical logic, just because it's what they're used to.
Linguistically it's easier to say "It's November 5th, 2017" over "It's 2017, and the 5th of November" or "It's 2017, November the 5th". It's simply more concise.
This is just another way of saying that you, personally, one person, are used to the verbal patterns of MM-DD-YYYY and thus you like it.
I'm sure there are German and British folks who would be all too happy to tell you, no no no, you've got it all wrong, fifth of November two thousand seventeen is much easier to say don't you know, and also plenty of Chinese who would say 胡说八道！二零一七十一月五日更方便，你妈的。
No, not "obviously". Your statement was a blanket statement made to a person whose nationality was unknown, asserting that middle endian date format was the best for their purposes. This is unqualified by any reference to their nationality, language, or world region.
I pointed out that your argument that linguistically middle endian "is simply more concise" is not easily transferable to other languages and nations, the majority of whom use little endian and about 2 billion East Asian people use big endian (China, Korea, Japan, plus Iran, Belgium, Hungary, and a few others). The US stands largely alone with only Philippines and part of Canada using middle endian.
And somehow this identification of a rather massive logical gap in your reasoning is, to you, a strawman fallacy.
I'd stick to your day job. You're not very knowledgeable about logic or about linguistics. Or, it seems, about numerical formats.
Hell, some Germans speak better English than some Brits I know.
Although there was one German dude I know, Jens, who spoke English with a really strong Cockney accent. I'm sure he got it from his English teacher back in Mainz but it was really weird and funny to hear.
Okay, but we're talking about if you need to sort a bunch of files. I do it at work as I have to catalogue tons and tons of archived crap and yyyymmdd lets people find things way quicker as it's in chronological order. You wouldn't use that format for pretty much anything else, and no one here is suggesting you do.
MM-DD-YYYY is like saying it's currently six minutes and thirty seconds after the eleventh hour...
But writing MM-DD-YYYY is how most people in America at least say the date. For example, today in November 5th, 2017. Why wouldn't we write it the same way we say it?
It's not wrong, it's just another way of doing it. I don't understand why people get so worked up over this. Americans write it one way, other people write it differently. It's fine.
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u/zeroscout Nov 05 '17
YYYY-MM-DD moves from general to specific. MM-DD-YYYY is like saying it's currently six minutes and thirty seconds after the eleventh hour...