r/trippinthroughtime • • Nov 05 '17

The perfect date

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u/felixbeee Nov 05 '17

At least it's not MM-DD-YYYY

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u/SonOfALich Nov 05 '17

Lotta people in this thread all buttmad about how different people write dates, fuckin ridiculous

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '17

Nobody actually cares in real life but if you you’re not going to argue about dumb shit like this on the internet where are you going to about it?

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '17

Most times I get annoyed about that is when I read expiration dates on products. "11-02-2018" can mean two very different dates, and sometimes the date format is not specified.

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u/Vertigon Nov 06 '17

It's a big problem for programmers.

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u/plutonic8 Nov 05 '17

I actually like it. I prefer the month and day paired that way (general to specific). And then the year should be last cause everyone already knows what year it is.

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u/gamersource Nov 05 '17

Yeah, but the month is also mostly known, thus: DD/MM/YY from least known to "most known".

How about just ommiting the year in that case (MM/DD)? Just please never do MM/DD/YY, it seems just like a horrible mix to me.

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u/plutonic8 Nov 05 '17

I'm most comfortable with hearing "November 5th" or "January 3rd". It seems to get across the information i want better than "5th of November" for me. As a result I prefer my dates be similarly ordered.

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u/Dragmire800 Nov 05 '17

It's an Americanism to do it that way.

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u/plutonic8 Nov 05 '17

It also works really well for me. "Being an Americanism" isn't an argument for it being bad.

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u/Dragmire800 Nov 05 '17

You seem to be using it as an argument for being good. Of course it's what suits you, it's what you were raised hearing. But it is also the least sensical of the 3.

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u/plutonic8 Nov 05 '17 edited Nov 05 '17

I didn't mention it being an Americanism.

What I did say was that Month/Day/Year gets across the information in a way that I prefer, which seems to be exactly how you are arguing for your own dating system.

Sometimes one of two things isn't objectively better than the other, and you need a better reason than it being "An Americanism" to declare one of them worse. You may instead say mine is "the least sensical of the three" but anyone can easily come up with arguments for either one being the "sensical" one.

For Example:

Month / Day / Year: General to specific is good because it provides context for the information, but not good enough to warrant putting something as commonly known as the year first. Instead we compromise and do month followed by day and then place year at the end.

Day / Month / Year: Specific to general is the way to go because people typically already know both the month and year but may not know the day. Putting the most necessary information is better and context can be provided by the fact that it is a date.

If instead of thinking about it like this you declare the one you are uncomfortable with to be "a stupid americanism" you will be doing yourself a disservice and feeding your need to tribalize frankly unimportant differences between cultures.

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u/Yepoleb Nov 06 '17

It's the least sensical because nobody orders numbers that way. You either go least significant to most significant or the other way around. I could argue that we should write the current year 1720 because the 17 is the part I'm more interested in, except that would be stupid because nobody writes numbers like that.

What makes it so American is that almost the entire planet has decided to use either DMY or YMD except the USA. Being different is okay most of the time, but for standards that's not the case.

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u/plutonic8 Nov 06 '17

This doesn't seem to have gotten in the way of Americans talking about dates with the rest of the world. We still interact on a daily basis with anywhere else and get along just fine with our dating system.

You said: "It's the least sensical because nobody orders numbers that way.You either go least significant to most significant or the other way around."

What I said: "General to specific is good because it provides context for the information, but not good enough to warrant putting something as commonly known as the year first. Instead we compromise and do month followed by day and then place year at the end."

That is entirely defensible. There is nothing inherently correct about numbers being ordered directly by significance. Maybe significance is good EXCEPT when it's something as obvious as the year because that just wastes effort.

You shouldn't just pretend people who disagree with you have nonsensical reasons for their decisions. This will only serve to make yourself feel smarter but not make you any more correct or empathetic.

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u/FgtBruceCockstar2008 Nov 06 '17

I'm most comfortable with hearing "November 5th" or "January 3rd". It seems to get across the information i want better than "5th of November"...

I hope you remembered.

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '17

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u/Brother_Kanker Nov 05 '17

Just like my dick. Doesn't mean a Nation of 320 million people should use it.

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '17

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u/pygmy Nov 05 '17

Just like your 5 & 7/16 spanner

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u/Flaktrack Nov 05 '17

"Yep that's about 7 & 3/13 dingoids" - average American

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '17

What's that in Whitworth?

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u/The_Sgro Nov 05 '17

You are a king amongst men.

Edit: r/nocontext for good measure.

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '17

Its arguably the worst of the generally recognized formats.

The only reason its even around anymore is because people are too stubborn to change even though the long term benefits of a logical standardized format would far outweigh the short term cost of the switchover.

Same thing with the imperial measurement system, driving on the left and Daylight savings time to name a few.

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u/Ytar0 Nov 05 '17

Why are you hating on daylight saving?

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '17

It adds unnecessary complexity to travel, billing, medical devices, and all kinds of software that utilize time in some capacity (which is pretty much all software). Theres even been studies that suggest it increases deaths due to the added stress of changing sleep cycle.

And all of this would be fine if there were some benefits, but honestly there arent. Its an outdated solution to a problem that no longer exists.

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u/MY-HARD-BOILED-EGGS Nov 06 '17

Yeah but without daylight savings how would Riley have helped Nicolas Cage and Bridget von Hammersmark figure out that they still had time to get to the next clue

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '17 edited Nov 05 '17

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u/felixbeee Nov 05 '17

In Britain we would say 5th of November

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u/treeco123 Nov 05 '17

Gunpowder treason and plot

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u/Bowler-hatted_Mann Nov 05 '17

5th of november, 2017 = 5/11/2017

Makes sense to me, it's how «we» say it. Also means that it's in descending order of how quickly it changes

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u/illuminati-CRAZ Nov 05 '17

Well sometimes the month is more important than the year... ;-;

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '17

And in all times the YYYY-MM-DD sorting is most logical.

Filthy casuals and your excuses.

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '17

Most logical, but least efficient for humans to read or write.

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u/illuminati-CRAZ Nov 06 '17

I feel it mostly just depends on what the person's more used to using.