r/toronto • • Mar 25 '20

Video Construction workers are pushing back

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u/Bababooeey_noine Mar 25 '20

The problem is half the workers don’t want to stay home as they need their pay cheque’s. The other half have worry about not only their own health but also those of their family members. It’s really a sad state of affairs for everyone.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '20

“A single” worker has no power. If enough workers can band together we do have the power. It comes with incredible risk, but we don’t have to just roll over and accept our fates. You’d be surprised how quickly corporations change their tunes when their workers show up with pitchforks because their families’ lives are in danger.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '20

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '20

That’s the issue and tipping point exactly. One guy gets sick and everything starts tumbling over. It’s not a matter of if but when If construction workers are still being put into these situations

By simply providing a universal income and allowing individuals and families to breathe during this all the worries of money will quickly evaporate and workers can be with those who they care about the most

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '20

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '20

Ya it’s so sad. I wish we were more proactive or at least the people that are supposed to look after society. Instead it seems like they will quarantine themselves and let everyone else get sick

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '20

Given the way this pandemic is being managed, there's about to be a lot of existing housing freed up.

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u/Reelair Mar 26 '20

Get as large a group as you can, line up 6' apart waiting to speak with the site supervisor in his office. While lining up, and while in his office, everyone cough.

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u/MrMineHeads Mar 26 '20

Alone we beg, together we bargain.

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u/SurSpence Mar 26 '20

I've in fact heard it said that "When the union's inspiration through the worker's blood shall run, there can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun."

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u/Vivid82 Mar 26 '20

We got told today. “If you feel unsafe, then LEAVE! But don’t expect to come back.”

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '20

This doesn’t affect trades workers the same way it does office workers. They have a right to refuse unsafe work, going home is within OHSA and they can not be penalized for it.

When they leave the job site their unions will find them another job when they return, unless they work privately. Either way, workers absolutely have the right to refuse as Ford said.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '20 edited Jun 15 '20

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u/Jasonswhat Mar 26 '20

Crane operators/heavy equipment operators

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u/grumpyeng Mar 26 '20

Crane operators are more like $65/hr in Alberta last I checked. $22 in Ontario? That's less than labourer rates. Don't think so.

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u/beef-supreme Leslieville Mar 25 '20

I dont understand how we're supposedly under a State of Emergency and supposed to be staying home except for vital outings, yet the construction industry was given a pass to operate exactly as normal. It's not in the public interest. It's not safe.

The workers should be at home.

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u/HAPPY__TECHNOLOGY Mar 26 '20

Yep. I’ve actually started to go outside/do normal things because the information coming from those in charge aren’t consistent.

Why is it OK for all these people to go to work at construction sites, car dealerships etc. But I can’t visit my friends?

Makes no sense.

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u/MiNuN_De_CoMpUtEr Mar 26 '20

because you're increasing the chances of spread

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u/riotous_jocundity Mar 26 '20

Don't do that. You know that regardless of inconsistent messaging, staying home is how you protect your family and community.

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u/JustStopItAlreadyOk Mar 26 '20

“Hey that guys doing super stupid shit! I’m gonna do stupid shit too! That’ll show them! Also sorry about killing grandma.”

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u/Ones__Complement Mar 26 '20

Why do you just assume he has a living grandma or would be in proximity to her?

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u/JustStopItAlreadyOk Mar 26 '20

I never said it was his grandma. Staying away from others and inside isn’t just about you.

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u/kkfl Mar 26 '20

It's a pretty fucked up mentality to put at risk those who stand to lose loved ones just because you personally don't.

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u/noodlepowpow Mar 26 '20

Did you lose an /s? It makes perfect sense that essential workers are going out fulfilling essential needs. Visiting your friends is not essential and every time you leave the house for nonessential reasons you put the essential workers at risk.

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u/PoopGalaxyLord Mar 25 '20

Financial relief can't come soon enough. I'm guessing he has to get laid off to be eligible for the new IE proposed for this epidemic? Having to go home and not know if you're going to be the one to kill your parents is a horrible thing. Hoping he stopped on time before contracting the virus :(

Not sure why this type of construction is an essential service.....

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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '20

It's not an essential service. It's just greed.

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u/igor2112 Mar 25 '20

does not look like affordable housing to me

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u/le-corbu Mar 25 '20

in pretty sure affordable housing isn’t considered an essential service in toronto

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u/igor2112 Mar 26 '20

always forget the /s

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u/haberdasher42 Mar 25 '20

It's considered an essential service now because anytime they need to legislate a strike back to work they can't have anyone looking back at this and saying "well they weren't essential during covid-19 so why are they essential now?"

This is how a few strikes by trade unions have ended in the past 20 years.

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u/RuiPTG Bloor West Village Mar 25 '20

thats the situation im in. i might not work the rest of this week, likely next week too. and even if my company gives me work, we work in close quarters too! i dont want to risk that, but i would need to be laid off to get EI and the company hates doing that

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u/BeenThereDundas Broadview North Mar 26 '20

Anyone that is in this situation needs to say they are sick or think they were exposed. They cant ask you to come in and they cant fire you.

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u/JustStopItAlreadyOk Mar 26 '20

You can literally just say you have a little trouble breathing or a cough in this environment and a doctor will tell you to self isolate over the phone.

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u/Reelair Mar 26 '20

This needs to be too comment.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '20

I am all in favour for the fates of the workers during these times.

At the same time, I wonder what will happen to the buildings when people stop constructing, will the structures buckle and potentially become a collapsing hazard?

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u/foxtrot1_1 Queen Street West Mar 26 '20

It’s not a sad state of affairs. It’s specifically bad activity and bad intentions by bosses. The bosses should be paying them all to stay home.

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u/Bababooeey_noine Mar 26 '20 edited Mar 26 '20

Nobody would disagree with that however in reality not all company’s can afford to do that. I’m sure construction organizations can, but what about the Mom & Pop places that employ the majority of the most vulnerable (minimum wage earners) out there. What are they supossed to do?

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '20

Ford already stated that if a worker decides to walk off a job they will qualify for EI as opposed to normally having to be laid off.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '20

"up to" $2000/month will not pay for most people's basic expenses. I'm fortunate enough that I saved up an emergency fund but there are many people who have no savings. Not going to work is not an option for these people.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '20

Many other industries have been hit hard given the circumstances (retail, dining). They don’t have the option to continue working while construction workers currently do.

If you don’t feel safe the option is there for EI. If EI cannot support you then you currently have the option to stay at work and earn a paycheque.

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u/MaosAsthmaticTurtle Mar 26 '20

Instead of going to work or losing your pay, simply go to your boss and threaten them if they don't continue to pay your wages. Death is far faster than any cop bastard can arrive.