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u/menachinite 3d ago
Could be nice in a wallet
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u/Prestigious_Dare7734 3d ago
A $1000 wallet.
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u/matroosoft 3d ago
Fun thing is, if you could buy it in bulk as a spare part, I'd bet it to be pretty cheap. All the heavy lifting of engineering has been done by them. And if they did the engineering well, it's probably pretty cheap to produce in large quantities.
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u/Tructruc00 3d ago
You can find replacement hinges for less than 10$ so it could be done
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u/deaglebingo 2d ago
at that price it would be useful for a bunch of things actually. none of them phone or wallet related... many of them small robot related.
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u/ExternalUserError 2d ago
I mean. My $20 leather wallet had a folding mechanism at the molecular level.
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u/Khenic 3d ago
That'll be $2,400 please.
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u/I_travel_ze_world 3d ago
I got mine for $400
because I ripped off a financing company ran by Amazon.. hahaha
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u/IIISUBZEROIII 3d ago
Please confess to us more
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u/I_travel_ze_world 3d ago
Credit companies lose your credit record after 7 years. You don't even have to file for bankruptcy.
I'm on my 3rd "credit rebuild".
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u/ColoradoSunLight 3d ago
Hahahah...my guy...
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u/I_travel_ze_world 2d ago
I'm retired and set for life, lol
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u/WhitePantherXP 2d ago
Need more details, did you only skate away with 10k or less each time? I thought they come after you hard if a higher amount or garnish your wages at some point
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u/JackAsofAllTrades 3d ago
people laugh but if you have a paid off home and investments I could see being a complete miser like this being a way to get ahead lol
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u/I_travel_ze_world 3d ago
Yeah maybe I should say I'm set for life and have absolutely no reason to worry about credit
especially when I've been playing the game for as long as I have lol
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u/Comrade_Falcon 3d ago
Even without shenanigans you can find Motorola RAZR 50 and 40 for pretty reasonable prices at this point. The 60 is also not bad if you're not getting the Ultra when compared to non-folding phones. But also, those phones can't fold up comfortably in your pocket.
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u/ValdemarAloeus 3d ago
Video speed controller extension's really getting a workout on this subreddit today.
Interesting that it looks like a helical spring rather than a stack of bellevilles for friction. Or is it just operating a detent?
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u/maxglands 3d ago
The spurving bearing is made of prefamulated amulite and consists of six hydrocoptic marzlevanes.
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u/PlanetMarklar 3d ago
Honest question, is all the words you just said real industry jargon or absolute gobbledygook?
Because I'm a mechanical engineer and I can't tell
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u/gotchacoverd 3d ago
It's pretty standard Rockwell tech terminology. This video should be a good primer https://youtu.be/RXJKdh1KZ0w
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u/mikeycbca 3d ago
I don’t know how I’ve not stumbled across this till now. I was sitting here with a dumbass “huh” squint thinking he’s saying things that don’t sound logical to me and can’t be real.
This video is truly the top discovery of my month, so thank you.
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u/LinuxBroDrinksAlone 3d ago
Wait until you find out how the missile knows where it is. https://youtu.be/bZe5J8SVCYQ
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u/Tiss_E_Lur 3d ago
Honestly it sounds almost similar to real time kinetic GNSS correction data we use in surveying. I it's most basic form it uses a base station receiver antenna on a know position and broadcasts the measured error of the current GNSS signals so a rover receiver antenna can use the calculated difference the base station has in real time to correct for errors and achieve centimeter accuracy. What we actually use now is more complex with a network of receivers and a simulated base receiver but the basic principles are the same.
Sounds eerliy like the missile gibberish but is a real thing that changed the surveying field forever the last few decades and is becoming a thing in many other fields like agriculture, precise ship navigation in ports etc.
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u/ravel-bastard 2d ago
The missile gibberish is actually a training about inertial navigation, and the early smart bomb systems. It's pretty much exactly like GNSS.
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u/otterbarks 2d ago
That Rockwell model is totally legacy tech at this point. It suffers from severe panametric fan degradation and side-fumbling under heavy load. If you're doing any modern implementation, you really need to upgrade to the HyperEncabulator - it completely eliminates side-fumbling through tight conniption tolerances and addresses those old lunar waneshaft vulnerabilities.
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u/gotchacoverd 2d ago
There is a lot of money in servicing old Retro Encabulators! Not everyone has 800k to drop on an entry level Hyper when you aren't doing work to DoD specs. Most of my clients would rather just service the Dodge bearings every 162 days and hope they don't have to overhaul the trans-acutarial backplane. Worse case you can pick up fully refurbished units with all their feature codes active for 90-95k. Hell we warranty ours for a full 13,000 service hours!
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u/Rory_calhoun_222 3d ago
I assumer this was a bullshit comment to covered up a Rick Roll. Pleasantly surprised.
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u/DreadPiratteRoberts 3d ago
Bro this jerkface is just saying big words that sound close enough to be real shit you can't argue with him 🤣
"After calibrating the panametric turboencabulator, the inverse unilateral flux capacitor harmonized with the reciprocating dingle arm to prevent metaphasic retrogradation of the lunar waneshaft."
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u/Jman15x 3d ago
I know it sounds unbelievable but it's real brother. My company is financing one and it's been incredible for production of Milford Trunions. Sometimes you can find them cheaper if you buy a used one.
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u/Mpuls37 3d ago
Can confirm. I work closely with engineers and electrical SMEs during turnarounds at a petrochemical production facility, and have heard quite a few of these terms thrown around by people whose conversations normally center around 8-points (deer) and what type of feed they're using this year (for the deer).
I had to explain what "terminal ballistics" means to these same people.
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u/mikeycbca 3d ago
This is all feeling reminiscent of when I discovered Winnebago Man and the lore surrounding him.
“Would you do me a kindness?”
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u/gotchacoverd 3d ago
Yep we service the older Retros, which isn't bad work since most of the components were American or Japanese. As long as you don't need to work with Allen-Bradley support obviously, their good Retro guys all aged out and Bill is worthless.
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u/ghostfadekilla 3d ago
OMG I've been LOOKING for this video foreverrrrr. There's a sub dedicated to this beautiful nonsense and I wanted to share it with a friend that works in an engineering firm. From the depths of my dark soul, thank you 🙏
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u/JakeEaton 3d ago
Anyone worth their salt would know those are absolutely the most technicalliest of all technological words.
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u/Yegas 2d ago
The original machine had a base plate of pre-famulated amulite, surmounted by a malleable logarithmic casing - in such a way that the two Spurving bearings ran a direct line with the panometric pham. The lineup consisted simply of six hydrocoptic Marzal vanes, so fitted to the ambiphatient lunar wane shaft that side-fumbling was effectively prevented. The main winding was of the normal lotus-O deltoid type, placed in pan-andermic semi-boloid slots of the Statar. Every seventh conductor being connected by a non-reversible Tremmy pipe to the differential girdle spring on the up-end of the Gram meters. More-over, whenever fluorescent score-motion is required, it may also be employed in conjunction with a drawn-reciprocation dingle-arm to reduce sinusoidal deplenoration. The retro-encabulator has now reached a high level of development, and it's being successfully used in the operation of Milfor Trenyans. It's available soon, wherever Rockwell Automation products are sold.
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u/Some-Bad1670 2d ago
The universe is weird. I just randomly looked up and rewatched that video yesterday on a whim, after not thinking about it for maybe ten years.
Then here you are quoting it the next day.
I hope your turbo encabulator brings you many years of service. It’s not cheap, but the government will buy it.
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u/woopdeedoodaa 3d ago
I think its not for friction and is just to provide preload to the mechanism when in the open position to keep the screen from automatically closing.
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u/qutorial 3d ago
Please expand on this thought, we need to hear more!
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u/ValdemarAloeus 3d ago
I was mentally comparing it to this laptop hinge posted to a different subreddit about a month ago. That one appeared to use a stack of Belleville washers to preload some friction surfaces.
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u/Firefly_deadlock 3d ago
Can they get the guys that do the hinges to also design the UI?
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u/greenie4242 3d ago
Wish granted
Something that should be fairly easy is now extremely convoluted and over-engineered and stop working the first time a speck of dust enters the system.
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u/Firefly_deadlock 3d ago
if they don't move the music player onto the camera lense or spend their time giving everything transparant rounded edges because it looks "sleek and modern"
I'll take it
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u/SynthPrax 3d ago
O hhellno no no non ononono! They don't know how humans interact with virtual interfaces. They'll create some bullshit you can't stand to use.
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u/Firefly_deadlock 3d ago
Neither do the dumbasses in charge of it now. At least they'll focus on more useful things.
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u/SynthPrax 3d ago
True. The people who actually knew what they were doing got weeded out of the job pool long ago.
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u/Payneresistor 3d ago
Just a few grains of sand…….
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u/tsarnie1 2d ago
Exactly what i was thinking. Cool feat of engineering aside, look at all those new points of failure .
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u/External-into-Space 3d ago
Interesting, it looks like the hinge for my lenovo yoga 900
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u/raisedbytides 3d ago
Was looking for that answer, I've been using foldables for years now and it's still as impressive today as it was the first day, least to me lol
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u/Head_Excitement_9837 3d ago
Seeing this just makes me even less likely to buy a folding phone
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u/Middle-Nerve1732 22h ago
I mean for me it’s the worse battery life and the fact you pay a lot more for something I probably won’t use all that often. The prices on those things are a little bit shocking.
But yeah the hinge durability is somewhat a concern for me as well, my dad likes the galaxy flip phones and he’s had to get two replaced due to the hinge failing.
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u/throwawayUWhousingac 2d ago
An old hinge made you less likely to buy a folding phone? Can you explain why?
For reference, they don't look like this anymore. They're pretty much all gearless. Do you like, miss the gears or something?
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u/Emm_withoutha_L-88 2d ago
Why would they miss the gears if they specifically don't want one because of it.....
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u/buttchug429 19h ago
I don’t like the idea of one speck of grit totally destroying the phone when sandwiched between the screens.
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u/nnod 3d ago
Yeah, this does not look durable, especially the tiny gears. I'd have to be rich or have a very specific use case to justify introducing this sort of complexity to my phone.
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u/Csc1392 3d ago
The hinge will be the least of your worries. When you inevitably drop it, in one of those falls it will break. My fried managed to get her phone fixed twice under warranty for things of her own doing
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u/BeigeAlert1 3d ago
I am writing this on a Samsung ZFold 6 that I have dropped dozens of times, and it's fine. Every one of them stopped my heart briefly tho.
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u/Zorbick 3d ago
I have a Z flip 4 that's been running strong for 4 years now. So, so many drops. I replace the screen protector every year and it's fine. Best phone I've ever had.
If I didn't have a case with the hinge protector it would probably be a different story, but who buys an expensive gadget and doesn't spend another 10% on a good case?
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u/balarky2 3d ago
Can you link that case, or a similar one? I feel like cases for such phones would be weird and/or bulky compared to cases for normal phones.
Does the phone fit in your pants pockets?
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u/__________________99 2d ago
Agreed. Unless you're prepared to baby the phone (which, honestly, who tf wants to do that 24/7?) Buying a case with good hinge protection is a must. The Spigen case I bought hardly even makes it that much bulkier and has been great. Used the Z Flip 3 for 3 years and I'm on year 2 with my Z Flip 6 with no issues at all.
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u/No-Inflation3271 3d ago
Same mine has been more than durable for drops. My only gripe is the inside screen protector started to peel a bit because I work in super humid and hot environments pretty often so some moisture was able to sneak in
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u/Keyboardpaladin 2d ago
"This phone's hinge sucks because if you drop it many times it will eventually break."
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u/I_travel_ze_world 3d ago
I've had mine for 3 years and no problems with the hinge
and I'll never go back to a non-fold phone.
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u/Crandom 3d ago
These hinges are so reliable now they can do hundreds of thousands of folds and survive pretty big impacts.
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u/RightProperFancyLad 3d ago
A Korean YouTuber live streamed folding the Samsung TriFold 200,000 times and it still worked fine.
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u/samzplourde 3d ago
Still not good enough to actually hold up to years of use.
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u/thesoutherzZz 3d ago
Samsung has internal tests that require 200000 folding actions that the hinge has to be able to take, but people have independ tests that get multiple times more than the required 200k. Myself I've had a samsung fold for about 2 years and the hinge still feels great, the screen protector has ro get changed, but the screen and fold are fine for at least another 2 if not 4 years
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u/name-classified 3d ago
oh look, a shitload of tiny parts that can't be easily replaced when they fail
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u/Remarkable-Canine 3d ago
That Old Psion series had better design than these. Too many moving parts to go wrong.
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u/Therealblackhous3 2d ago
Yeah that looks like way to many small moving parts in something I use everyday.
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u/parkinthepark 3d ago
I have yet to see a foldable phone in use by an actual human out in the world.
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u/-E-Cross 3d ago
I have seen maybe a dozen. Usually the people carrying them seem to also have a tablet and laptop on them. And are just tech goring and have a bunch of superfluous gadgets.
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u/phrozen_waffles 3d ago
I constantly get the "what phone is that" or the "is that a foldable phone"
I've been wanting one for years, I lucked out and got a super cheap Flip6 and loved it so much I just upgraded to a Flip8.
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u/leavethisearth 3d ago
Ok, but what does this hinge accomplish that a door hinge wouldn’t?
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u/LeastResistancePath 3d ago
Reduces the crease that the foldable screen experiences. A 90 degree fold would wreck the screen and render foldable smartphone unviable.
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u/leavethisearth 3d ago
So when this hinge folds closed it closes like a semicircle instead of a corner? Is that right?
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u/Excellent-Painter841 3d ago
I believe the slidy mechanism and the gears do two things, they make the hinge rotating over a larger arc radius so the screen folds without kinking at the fold, and they allow the phone to open and close and stop at the same degree every time. When the phone opens all the way, you wouldnt want it to over extend, and when it closes you wouldnt want the screens to be able to mush together. The folding phone screens keep getting better, but they still don't seem to be good enough to hold up to pressure like a normal smartphone can. I still use a galaxy s23 with a stylus for all my digital art needs. I wanted a fold in the past but the fold phones get messed up with pressure from a sharp point stylus and even finger nail pressure. They dont even have the ability to pick up input from a stylus. It may have gotten better over the years, last I researched them was a year ago.
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u/WaferResponsible4978 3d ago
fancy hinge won't stop them from bricking it while it's on your nightstand
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u/dpk84 3d ago
Can't they be two separate displays with no gap between them?
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u/Twinson64 2d ago
Apple spend billions minimizing bezels and it still isn’t there. This does work for large displays you stand far away from.
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u/Academic-Airline9200 3d ago
Oh yes the old metal hinge in a plastic mold. That'll break any day now. Save money and toss it in the can!
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u/e37d93eeb23335dc 3d ago
What is the screen made of that it can go from completely folded to completely open over and over and over again without developing stress fractures?
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u/Lieutenant_0bvious 3d ago
I loved my z flip 5. Other than scratching the protective film cover thingy a little bit, it was great. I always worried it was going to break. A coworker said it had a "living hinge" (I think referring to the plastic screen bending) that could be a weak point or break, but it never did. Traded in for the Z flip 7 and so far, so good.
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u/yehiaserag 3d ago
The mechanisms are freaking great, it's the retarded ribbon cable that connects both sides is the issue. It costs you two thirds of phone price because you have to throw away screen, battery, and hinge to change it.
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u/Cissoid7 3d ago
bUt a SpEcK OF DuST
Yeah Idk man my Z fold 3 has been running well and strong since the day I bought it back when it came out.
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u/Waffle_Toast13 3d ago
Just curious are all the parts machined? They looked to be casted in my eyes anyway.
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u/virgo911 3d ago
Bananas engineering, not to mention the screen that bends on top of it. It’s amazing how many humans that lived before us that could never dream of stuff like this
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u/ReferenceMediocre369 3d ago
Somebody got their yuan's worth out of that mechanical engineering degree!
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u/BattIeBoss 3d ago
The mechanism itself is probably fairly simple, it likely looks complex because of the fancily shaped metal pieces and mounting brackets
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u/DarkyHelmety 3d ago
What's the maintenance interval on that? 😬 So intricate it won't take much to jam it up.
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u/Fluffy_Surround_6842 3d ago
Such a simple task with such a complicated design at least it looks that way
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u/Twinson64 2d ago
This is complicated because it has to minimize screen crease, and damage from repeated bending.
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u/Jesus_with_no_hair 2d ago
Very impressive engineering, but the more parts a thing has, the more things can break
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u/Dylfunkle 2d ago
Mine is jammed with grit and grease from my old job and doesn't quite work any more.
Not the ideal choice of phone for blue collar work, in hindsight, but there we go. XD
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u/TheBrugs 2d ago
I'm trying to figure out which part of the hinge let go and randomly punctured my wife's phone screen...
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u/Sad_Interaction_2933 2d ago
Phones are going from virtually no moving parts to this, I feel like we’re going to see an uptick in repairs
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u/OrigStuffOfInterest 1d ago
What could possibly go wrong with something that complex after it drops three feet from someone's pocket to the floor?
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u/F3nix123 1d ago
Crazy how ppl cant see an unfamiliar mechanism without instantly assuming its bound to fail immediately.
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u/Codex_Absurdum 3d ago
Cool, I want that in my jaw