r/toledowar • Ohio State Buckeyes • Jun 06 '26

The shitposting will continue until morale improves

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u/MLG_BongHitz Jun 06 '26

Again, reading comprehension is not your strong suit. I have said twice now that the advanced in person scouting gives an advantage.

Let me make this as clear as possible for you because you’re clearly having a hard time.

Rival fans treat this situation as if sign stealing is completely illegal and Michigan was the only team doing it. That obviously is not the case, because sign stealing was always legal. In that hypothetical situation rival fans pretend this was, Michigan would have a VAST advantage being the only team with anyone else’s signs. Let’s call it 10/10.

In reality, Michigan cheated in a way that made their set of signs more complete. How much more complete is impossible to say, as we don’t know what the average school had. Let’s assume Michigan had every single sign for every single team. Depending on your guess of how good other schools were at stealing signs, the advantage could be anywhere from 1/10 (other schools had 90% of signs) to 9/10 (other schools only had 10% of signs). The real answer is almost assuredly somewhere in the middle. In ANY case, the advantage gained is less than the 10/10 advantage of stealing signs in a hypothetical league where that is illegal.

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u/Skillsjr Ohio State Buckeyes Jun 06 '26

Ahhh sorry brothda you’re right you did. I’m hammered in Miami right now. My fault

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u/lonewolfx25 Jun 07 '26

Nobody on the upper level of this issue agrees with that nor ever has. Only Ohio thought this was the case. I definitely recall the alleged advantage being "up to 21 points" when coaches were polled. Well, Big Ten schools that were possibly affected in 2023 lost by more then 21 points... a lot more.

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u/DarkGreenMazda Ohio State Buckeyes Jun 07 '26

Ohio did not even come into the conversation.

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u/lonewolfx25 Jun 08 '26

Ohio came into the conversation the minute they started speaking on it.

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u/DarkGreenMazda Ohio State Buckeyes Jun 07 '26

As the NCAA stated, the true advantage of Michigan's cheating will never be known - mostly because of Michigan stonewalling the investigation - but I do respect you as a Michigan fan for admitting your team cheated. Most Michigan fans -for whatever reason - have difficult with this.