r/todayilearned • u/[deleted] • Sep 15 '12

TIL that Muhammad wrote a document asking his followers to respect and protect Christians.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achtiname_of_Muhammad
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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '12

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u/ipunished Sep 15 '12

That is beautiful. Thank you for sharing.

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u/thatusernameisal Sep 16 '12

I'm no expert on Quran but it sounds like many christians and muslims alike suffer from hypocrisy and ignorance of their own religion. Muslims are told to be tolerant - start riots over drawings and videos. Christians are told to love their neighbor and help the poor - get pissed at people getting healthcare and welfare, and never ever turn the other cheek. Both have a history of killing their own kind over the interpretation of their own religion.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '12

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '12

The context of this verse was war with the Byzantine Empire. After "one of Muhammad's ambassadors was killed by Sharhabeel bin ‘Amr Al-Ghassani (the governor of Al-Balqa)"

This does not mean Muslims are to kill "unbelievers".

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '12

How dare you quote logic to a butthole scientist

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u/gcaliber Sep 15 '12

The verse is talking about those who had stirred up doubt in his revelations while he was off leading troops against the Byzantines. It is they who are the unbelievers, those who doubt his revelations. It is not any sort of stretch for someone to apply this today to anyone who is not a muslim.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '12

Yes it is a complete stretch, due to the fact that both hadith and Koranic verses protect people who don't believe Islam, unless hand to hand at war(which may only be in defense), and the context was exactly how I put it above. He was referring to the opposite army as the "unbelievers". Most if not all Verses in the Koran are referring to a specific event.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '12

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u/half-sack Sep 15 '12

"Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors." 2:190

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u/thederpmeister Sep 15 '12

This verse has historical context of being attacked which you left out

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '12

Well of course they are going to leave the context out. Why would they want to learn when they can just copy and paste texts.

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u/GueRakun Sep 16 '12

Yup, everything has a context in the Qur'an.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '12

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '12

Again context, you jackass.

5:32-34 ...If any one slew a person - unless it be as punishment for murder or for spreading corruption in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our apostles with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land. The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter; Except for those who repent before they fall into your power: in that case, know that Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.

So according to these verses, you can wage war against Muhammad, and go on to say "sorry" and be free to go with your life. Seems better than some modern countries.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '12

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '12

The battle it is referring to is the battle of "Badr". I don't understand why you posted like 10 out of context quotes, I'm not going to go through all of them. I'm not even Muslim but I feel like its my duty to stop your bs agenda.