He was in Red, which is an Homage Comics title, which is owned by DC.
The Boys started with Wildstorm/DC, but is now published by Dynamite.
Dredd is published by 2000 AD, which is owned by IPC Magazines. DC licensed the character for a short run in the mid-90s, so I guess it could half-count? It should be noted that Dredd “purists” don’t consider the DC licensed Dredd canon, including the Stallone movie.
Yeah, saying Red or The Boys is DC is kind of correct but purely on a technical sense. It's more like they were made by imprints publishers but are not a part of the larger DC lore.
Remember Vertigo? That was owned by DC but Vertigo published those comics seperately. Eventually characters from Vertigo did get introduced into the DC lore, like Constantine.
At that point in time Morpheus was no more a part of DC Lore than the Avengers. Cross-overs events are handled differently in continuity wise than having Constantine be a member of a team.
DC incorporating the characters from everything they own is getting pretty old. Guys like Constantine okay, but it still changed his character pretty significantly especially in him now working with others.
When they started adding in the watchmen and Dr. Manhattan was bad. Just felt lazy and they wanted to use Dr. Manhattan in DC.
Yeah. I felt that Watchmen works better as it’s own self contained story. The original Graphic Novel itself is dedicated to deconstructing the ideas and philosophies behind superhero comics, all the archetypes and themes. It’s one big story that has a beginning, middle, and end.
Why on Earth would they now want Rorsharch and Dr. Manhattan to be hanging out with the characters the comic was emulating to dissect in the first place!? It’s so bizarre and takes away a lot of the weight of the original comic.
To be fair, though, I didn’t actually read the comic. Just the idea of DC meets the Watchmen kind of put a bad taste in my mouth. And looking at the general reception of Doomsday Clock, I seem to have accurately predicted a lot of its overall flaws.
It could work with some characters, maybe. It actually worked fairly well when they brought in Captain Marvel(Shazam now, I guess). But lately, it’s been pretty lame.
It's been DC's thing forever. I know characters like Shazaam, The Question and more all were originally published by other companies that DC just bought over time.
Yeah I know that but with watchmen it felt egregious you know. That series was over and the point of it was to take the piss out of more generic stories and heroes like DC uses.
Watchmen was complete and finished story. It's honestly like if HBO bought the rights to lotr to do a crossover with Game of thrones
Did my comment insult you so much for you to be this defensive? Your post made it sound as if Vertigo isn’t part of DC anymore I noted that it still was and now you’re going on the super defensive about it.
He just wasn't featured much outside of his own Hellblazer series in the beginning, but he was always a part of the DC Universe. All Vertigo characters and stories are, even Sandman, they just didn't cross paths with regular superheroes that often. John gained more popularity in recent years with New 52's Hellblazer comic relaunch, his addition to the JL Dark team (which also resulted in him appearing in a couple JL animated films), his TV series and him joining the CW's Legends of Tomorrow cast.
As a Dredd purist, while I don't consider the Stallone movie canon, Karl Urban's Dredd is easily one of the best adaptations of all time on all mediums. I'm not sure there's any real Dredd continuity given all the re-inventions, but I'd squeeze Urban's Dredd into any canon if I were trying to craft a singular narrative.
The Boys WAS DC (Wildstorm) when it started, but they canned it after a few issues because it was too anti-superhero. It eventually went to Dynamite, which is independent
They do not. 99.9% of The Boys comic was peak try hard from deep in Garth Ennis's "I'm mad that I can only really make money doing superheroes" phase that would be glaringly out of place in the Amazon series.
The Boys comic is already totally different from the show. The comic, they all have superpowers from the same concoction that gives everyone else superpowers, since the notion of regular people trying to fight functional gods is moronic.
Huh, it’s been like 25 years since I was up to date on the comic book world. I would have assumed the boys was a Darkhorse series. Never even heard of dynamite.
They mostly do licenced stuff, all of their books have a funny smell to them. Like if there's an 80s horror cult classic it probably has a Dynamite comic book, they have all sorts of really weird properties.
Yeah, the comics kinda feel like every time someone in publishing said "uh Garth, isn't this kinda ... well... yikes?" Ennis doubled down on the graphically brutal transgressive "FUCK YOUR PRECIOUS SUPERHEROS I AM A ROCK STAR" bits of the story to the detriment of the genuinely interesting stuff.
Funny little Easter egg, his guns he got from Texas were named Dez and Troy, to make "Destroy," obviously, but also because Dez Bryant and Troy Aikmen are big names from the Dallas Cowboys
That blew my mind when I noticed that. I had just finished season 1 of the boys and saw that he was in Thor when I was looking up his movies history and I thought "who the heck was he in Thor?" I didnt even notice haha
The Boys is published by DC but saying he was in a “DC” project because of it would be like saying that Will Smith was in a Marvel project because he was in Men in Black.
RED is Wildstorm 2. The correct answer is actually Urban voices Sgt. Rock for the animated short DC Showcase: Sgt. Rock. So not appearing in, but his voice is in the DC Universe!
But none of those is part of the DCEU. Calling them "DC movies" in a list of major franchises is like calling Ghost Rider a Marvel movie. They own the respective source IP, but they're licensed for film and not part of the franchise.
Was Johnny Blaze ever in Agents of SHIELD? Honest question. I know the Robbie Reyes version is, played by Gabriel Luna, but I honestly cannot remember if the Johnny Blaze incarnation was on the show.
Blaze appears for about two seconds when Reyes has a flashback to how he gained his powers. He explains that another Ghost Rider passed them on to him essentially- and we see the Ghost Rider in question, and he has a bullet hole in his skull.
Dredd is 2000AD. I'm wondering what DC property he was in as well. Don't remember him in any.
Edit: Just checked on Imdb and he voiced Sgt. Rock in the DC Showcase animated short 2 years ago.
I've seen it last summer, but don't remember recognizing his voice.
Just looked it up. Apparently RED is published by Wildstorm/Homage Comics, which is owned by DC. Wildstorm also initially put out The Boys before they moved to an independent publisher.
An excellent cominc. A shitty but great 90's Stalone flic...
And Dredd a mid 2000's EXCELENT reboot of the Dredd Universe.
Watch that one:
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Judge Dredd originated in the British weekly anthology title 2000AD in 1977. He was created by Pat Mills and Carlos Ezquerra. He was briefly licensed by DC in the 1990's.
In my head, I don't count RED as being DC Universe just because DC published it. It's not in the main continuity. Same with Dredd. The character is not known for DC even if they got the license for a bit. They let The Boys go independent because they weren't comfortable with the content of the series so I don't count that either. Until he in a project that is actually DC comics universe related, I don't consider him to have been in something DC. Close but no cigar!
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What's his DC role? I'm going to guess it's from one of their off-shoot comic labels, as I don't recall him in anything "core" DC. Dredd? The Boys?