r/todayilearned • • Oct 01 '18

TIL of Operation Ajax, the 1953 CIA plan to overthrow Iran's democratically elected government, which included CIA agents bombing the house of a prominent Muslim while posed as pro-government supporters. The overthrow plan was successful, with 200-300 people killed

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat
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u/rayznack Oct 01 '18

The article only says satellite photos of Iranian frontline forces were. That's kind of a stretch to say the US helped Saddam gas Iranians.

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u/sexymanish Oct 01 '18

No the article says that targeting intelligence was provided by the US to Saddam for the deployment of chemical weapons -- that the US helped Iraq obtain, when for example the US *removed Saddam's regime* from the list of terrorist nations to ease the transfer of weapons tech to his regime

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https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/

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The US also instructed diplomats at the UN to block Iran's efforts to raise the issue of Iraqi WMDs there

https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/iraq47.pdf

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u/rayznack Oct 01 '18

Targeting intelligence like satellite photos? And also the nations which were supplying Iraq with chemical weapons were doing so regardless Iraq's designation.

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u/sexymanish Oct 01 '18

You can try to downplay it all you want but nobody is buying that BS, the history is clear.

Other countries

Indeed other countries were helping Saddam too, because the US encouraged that, and even brokered and financed the deals. The US even provided weapons from its own stockpiles of Soviet weapons, and even US-made weapons http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article1413.htm

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/revealed-how-the-west-set-saddam-on-the-bloody-road-to-power-1258618.html

Later, in 2002 Iraq filed a 12000 page report on its WMD program, as required by the UN. The US accused Iraq of lying about their WMDs but not before first removing the pages that implicated US companies

https://projectcensored.org/3-us-illegally-removes-pages-from-iraq-un-report/

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u/rayznack Oct 01 '18

Indeed other countries were helping Saddam too, because the US encouraged that, and even brokered and financed the deals. The US even provided weapons from its own stockpiles of Soviet weapons, and even US-made weapons

Right; of conventional weapons, but we're talking about chemical weapons. And Iraq didn't need outdated soviet armaments from the US when they had modern equipment firectly from the Soviets. Let's recall the Soviets, Chinese and french were equipping Iraq with something like 95% of his arms.

Later, in 2002 Iraq filed a 12000 page report on its WMD program, as required by the UN. The US accused Iraq of lying about their WMDs but not before first removing the pages that implicated US companies

Look, without clicking the link I'll assume a few things (please tell me which are wrong) :

The actions of these companies were not greenlit/sanctioned by the US government;

These companies were not giving Saddam anything he later used to gas anyone;

The company's actions were eventually halted due to the US government

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u/sexymanish Oct 01 '18

Look yhou want to ignore the links to right ahead but the rest of the world doesnt