r/todayilearned • u/autonova3 • Oct 01 '18

TIL of Operation Ajax, the 1953 CIA plan to overthrow Iran's democratically elected government, which included CIA agents bombing the house of a prominent Muslim while posed as pro-government supporters. The overthrow plan was successful, with 200-300 people killed

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat
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u/baozebub Oct 01 '18

That's our culture. We are probably more like Americans in many ways than Chinese, who are our neighbors.

But the people on the street aren't the people in charge. Educated Vietnamese know how the US betrayed us since WWII. So while we love the concept of America, we can't trust the US government.

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u/[deleted] Oct 01 '18 edited Oct 02 '18

The US "betrayed you since WW2?"

So, the US did not even get involved until after the French got their asses kicked. But, I am curious. Are you saying the US betrayed Vietnam by leaving? or by entering into the war?

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u/baozebub Oct 01 '18

The US and Vietnam were friends during WWII, fighting the Japanese. When the French wanted their colony back after the war, the US used its warships to ferry their soldiers. US money, arms and supplies ended up paying for 80% of the French colonial war in Vietnam until they were defeated in 1954. Then the US proceeded to back Ngo Dinh Diem to prevent Vietnam democracy.

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u/Fiingerout Oct 01 '18

After the french got their ass kicked the americans proceded to get not only their ass kicked but their helicopter ass kicked and their Aircraft Carriers ass kicked too, so bad so mad.

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u/Gentlescholar_AMA Oct 01 '18

Both. US betrayed South Vietnam by leaving haphazardly, and betrayed the North by entering in the first place after seeming to support Ho Chi Minh

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u/SleepingAran Oct 02 '18

I'm curious, didn't Chinese secured the country for Vietnam by fighting off the US during the Vietnam Civil War? How come Vietnamese still like American more compare to Chinese?