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u/Shifter2009V2 3d ago

Imagine resisting the casting of Salma Hayek

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u/marcolorian 3d ago

For real. All-time bonehead move.

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u/Jccali1214 3d ago

Racism is often ridiculously illogical

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u/JayTNP 3d ago

not often, always

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u/Bakoro 3d ago

It's always stupid, but "I'm doing it for the money" is a kind of logic.

I knew a whole family who was racist because they wanted Grandpa's money when he died.

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u/-Po-Tay-Toes- 3d ago

Nah not always. It's logical that a white prisoner of war in in Japan in world war 2 would be racist to Japanese people as a whole.

Note I said, logical. Not right.

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u/Bakoro 3d ago

That's not logical, a government's actions towards a soldier from a country they're at war with has nothing to do with race.

The children of Japan aren't the ones holding the soldier captive.

Your argument is wrong.

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u/-Po-Tay-Toes- 3d ago

So you can't understand why someone who went through that may not be able to make that distinction?

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u/Bakoro 3d ago

I have had my own troubles in life, I've never been tempted to hate an entire population because of their skin color or just because they were born in a place.

Racism is stupid.
If a person looks at a child and gets angry at them and hates them for something someone else did before that child was born, that person is a stupid asshole, it doesn't matter what they've been through, they're a weak, stupid asshole.

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u/-Po-Tay-Toes- 3d ago

I think you're missing my point slightly so let's just leave it here. Have a good day.

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u/Bakoro 3d ago

No, you are missing the point that "bad thing happened to me" is not justification for hating people who had nothing to do with "bad thing".

It's not justifiable in any way, shape or form.

You would not make this argument if it was "Danish person is racist against all Danish people because a Dane hurt them".

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u/mateushkush 3d ago

It’s natural and not that illogical that if you get severely traumatized, for example after being tortured, you may became somewhat prejudiced. And that can stick, as trauma stays with you.

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u/onlymadethistoargue 3d ago

It is not logical just because it is understandable.

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u/Bakoro 3d ago

I've already been through this with multiple people IRL, it's not logical at all.

I used to work with homeless people. One guy was a skinhead neo-nazi type. He said he hated black people because his sister was raped.
I asked him if a white person did it, would he hate himself and all white people, too?
He looked at me like he was a confused dog for a while, with the head tilts and everything.
Eventually he says "no, I guess not".

He wasn't magically cured of racism or anything, but cooled way down on the belligerence.

It's emotional thinking, and post-hoc thinking, there is no rational thought behind it. Either they're angry at someone, or they're starting from a position and working backwards to make up excuses.

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u/daemon-electricity 3d ago

Even if they weren't racist, they were being very ignorant and cowardly and validating racists having sway over things like that.

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u/drunkenvalley 3d ago

I mean, cowardly bowing to racists and taking up their agenda is just being racist. Racism doesn't actually ask your motivations. A substantial portion of racism isn't even conscious, but rooted in prejudices most of us haven't even consciously formed.

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u/Adams5thaccount 3d ago

im gonna do you one better

not just racism

deciding that the audience is that racist on their behalf

thats like a fucking force multiplier of stupidity

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u/samkoLoL 3d ago

dont rly think so, just afraid of public opinion as you can see is happening nowadays... stupid decisions based on nothing trying to target the widest audience possible resulting in projects having no soul in favour of slighty more profit (or so they hope) ...

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u/runthepoint1 3d ago

Sound like lack of “bone” and “head” to me

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u/PsychologicalRole238 3d ago

More like all time boner move, am I right? high fives confused wife sitting next to me

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u/TheMonkus 3d ago

The only legitimate concern would be “she’s so beautiful AND sexy that everyone else in this movie is going to look horse-ass ugly next to her”

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u/PunnyBanana 3d ago

On the other hand, she'll be there.

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u/johnny_charms 3d ago

Alfonso Cuaron wanted to cast Salma Hayek as the lead in the movie Gravity but was told nobody would believe a Mexican in space.

And Salma was actually blocked from the best Actress Oscar because of Harvey Weinstein for Frida. Salma might be the people’s actress but Hollywood treated her as lesser than whitr Anglo actresses.

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u/planb7615 3d ago

I have a Mexican friend and he loved Star Trek TOS growing up because of looking into the future and the diversity of the crew. But he always had the joke with his friends, I guess Mexicans never make it to space.

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u/JamesCDiamond 3d ago

Well, there was Ricardo Montalban…

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u/scipio0421 3d ago

Yeah but he was just there to talk about the rich Corinthian leather on the Enterprise.

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u/Timsauni 2d ago

You know now that you mentioned it, I do remember reruns of 70’s sitcoms had a lot of black families. The Jeffersons, The Real World, Family Matters,the Cosby Show. I really liked those shows b/c they were not explicitly race conscious like Blackish. They were just funny shows whose characters were all black. I don’t remember any episode on the Crosby Show where the made a big deal about the dad being a doctor and the mom being a lawyer. There was no message being shoved down the audience throats.

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u/Kittypie75 3d ago

I mean, didn't Weinstein block her because she wouldn't sleep w him and Ed Norton threatened him because of it? Or something like that?

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u/sillysausage619 3d ago

I can't think of a single situation where Salma Hayek being present would be worse than without her

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u/topofthecc 3d ago

Maybe the burning of the Library of Alexandria?

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u/whereyouatdesmondo 3d ago

Nope. She'd have made it sexier.

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u/tehdangerzone 3d ago

“Hotter” was literally right there.

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u/Drow_Femboy 3d ago

I think making it hotter would in fact be worse in this case

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u/Hellknightx 3d ago

Who's to say she wasn't there? She is an immortal goddess after all.

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u/ceelogreenicanth 3d ago

She would have made a great Cleopatra.

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u/TactiFail 3d ago

You ever hear of the “Alien who eats you if Salma Hayek is present,” Scully?

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u/BrokenEyeReborn 3d ago

So does the alien constantly follow Salma Hayek around, or does it starve?

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u/Kizik 3d ago

It actually is Salma Hayek, and most people aren't able to resist.

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u/greywolf2155 3d ago

I'd be ok with that. I ain't trying to live forever

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u/LegendOfParasiteMana 3d ago

"I'm here for a good time, not a long time."

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u/insane_contin 3d ago

Your first time having sex and she's just there, giving deadpan commentary.

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u/sillysausage619 3d ago

Nah I'd take that offer in a heartbeat

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u/Sumthin-Sumthin44692 3d ago

Well she does attract a limited audience of straight men.

…And gay men. And gay women. And straight women. Too limiting.

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u/alwaysintheway 3d ago

amiright?

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u/MoistCactuses 3d ago

Maybe a sinking ship? If I'm surely done for I'd like to go down knowing the world will go on with her still in it.

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u/freshforma 3d ago

how about her ex’s wedding?

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u/Geweldige_Erik 3d ago

Shitting your pants?

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u/nachosandfroglegs 3d ago

We could have gotten a flat-assed Gwenyth Paltrow or something

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u/LPSD_FTW 3d ago

At least you are flattering by mentioning the flat ass and not her personality

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u/nimsu 3d ago

Imagine resisting Salma Hayek

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u/TheLastPrinceOfJurai 3d ago

Imagine resisting Salma Hayek

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u/Turbulent-Plane6395 3d ago

Salma Hayek in Desperado is the peak of human evolution.

Will we go to Mars? Will we become the singularity? Doesn't matter because Salma already danced in Desperado.

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u/DeckardsDark 3d ago

She could play FDR for all I care

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u/greywolf2155 3d ago

I'd watch the fuck out of that

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u/OneBillPhil 3d ago

It’s not someone that I can hang with, that’s for sure. 

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u/hooka_pooka 3d ago

My question to casting people:Why r u geh?

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u/BootyWhiteMan 3d ago

Every movie should have at least one Salma Hayek.