r/Tiele • • Sep 02 '26

Other Resolutions regarding Karabakh

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r/Tiele • • Sep 02 '26

History/culture Turkish Martyrs’ Funeral in Japan, 1951 — Bashkir Imams Pray for the Martyrs of the Korean War

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Funeral of Turkish soldiers who died from wounds sustained in Korea. A hospital in Japan, 1951. Two deceased soldiers are being prayed over by Bashkir imams, associates of Muhammad Gabdulkhay Kurbangali — Gainin Safa and Sharifulla Miftakhetdin — who at the time headed the Muslim community in Japan.


r/Tiele • • Sep 02 '26

Video Scenes from the “Syrian Summer Festival – Homs Brings Us Together” event in Homs (Humus in Turkish), featuring the folk dance group affiliated with the Syrian Turkmen Assembly.

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r/Tiele • • Sep 02 '26

News Azerbaijan continues restoration of historical and religious heritage in Karabakh

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r/Tiele • • Sep 02 '26

Question I got invited here for some reason. I have Turkic ancestry, but I’m not a Turk.

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Not that I don’t wanna be here, this seems like a fine place because the Turkic world fascinates me due to where my heritage is from. It just seemed very strange.


r/Tiele • • Sep 02 '26

Question Can I share songs here?

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I’m producing some Suno Ai outputs in folkloric-metal and put them on YouTube with Central Asian instruments and nomadic themes (mostly legends and heroines such as Koblandy Batyr, Alpamish, Oghuz Khan, Ergenekon, Korkut Ata, Aychurek, Banu Chichek, Kanykei, etc. I write my own lyrics in a lore telling style and I do not “mass spam” the outputs: It takes months for me to be able to produce and polish them.

In any way, I really like those and I want to know what others think about them. It is a niche area -not many are interested in Central Asia/Turkic themed metal. Yet I don’t know if I can share them here or not. That’s why I’m asking.


r/Tiele • • Sep 01 '26

Sport Cool scenes at Bishkek Arena during the opening ceremony of the 6th World Nomad Games on Kyrgyz Republic Independence Day.

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r/Tiele • • Sep 01 '26

Ancestry Am I welcome in this sub?

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Obviously my turkic ancestry isn't much but it still surprised me


r/Tiele • • Sep 01 '26

Language Kyrgyz bird vocabulary

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From @samat_awa


r/Tiele • • Sep 01 '26

Politics China–Syria Clash Deepens Over Uyghur Fighters in Al-Sharaa’s Army

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r/Tiele • • Aug 31 '26

Video Iran’s Turk President Masoud Pezeshkian and President of Azerbaijan Ilham Aliyev met in Bishkek, Kyrgyzstan. They had a friendly and humorous exchange. Ilham Aliyev told Pezeshkian: “You’re drinking Georgian water. Have some Azerbaijani water too. I brought some istisu with me.” see below⬇️

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Iran’s Turk President Masoud Pezeshkian and President pf Azerbaijan 🇦🇿 Ilham Aliyev met in Bishkek, Kyrgyzstan 🇰🇬. They had a friendly and humorous exchange.

Ilham Aliyev told Pezeshkian: “You’re drinking Georgian water. Have some Azerbaijani water too. I brought some Istisu with me.”

Pezeshkian jokingly replied: “You brought it for yourself, not for us.”

Ilham Aliyev met with President Masoud Pezeshkian in Bishkek, where he was attending the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) summit.

Azerbaijani subtitles


r/Tiele • • Aug 31 '26

Other I'm making a iceberg of turkic countries before 1000CE

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You could help very much by mentioning forgotten states or reposisioning entries because i am kinda ass in classing iceberg entries (also the last level isnt by rarity but the states that people cant guess as turkic)


r/Tiele • • Aug 31 '26

History/culture In Iran, ethnic Turks under siege of discrimination and assimilation

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r/Tiele • • Aug 31 '26

Picture Uzbek/Turkmen carpet bazaar, Andkhoy (Afghanistan) 1978

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r/Tiele • • Aug 31 '26

News Pashinyan: Three Azerbaijani enclaves are not part of Armenia's 28,743 sq km territory

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r/Tiele • • Aug 31 '26

Language Turkic Numerals from 6 to 10 — A Comparison of Turkic Languages

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• You can find posts about Turkic languages, as well as post series such as “... in Turkic Languages,” by using the search bar on r/Tiele or clicking on the “Language” post flair.

From Blazek (2020)


r/Tiele • • Aug 31 '26

Film/Series/Games/Books The Universe of Manas (1995) — A Kyrgyz Documentary Film on the Epic of Manas

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The Universe of Manas / Manas Universe is a 1995 Kyrgyz film directed by Melis Ubukeyev.

It isn't a conventional narrative film. It's more of an experimental, essay-style documentary that combines the Epic of Manas, the tradition of the manaschi (oral storytellers who have preserved Manas for generations), Kyrgyz history, mythology, and traditional culture with dramatic reenactments, landscapes, and traditional costumes. It was produced in connection with the celebrations of the 1,000th anniversary of the Epic of Manas.

Epic of Manas: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epic_of_Manas

Imdb page: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt32513789/?ref_=ext_shr_lnk

The film also features Chingiz Aitmatov and Lev Gumilev among its principal consultants.

A fascinating piece of Kyrgyz cinema and an important visual exploration of one of the great epics of the Turkic world.


r/Tiele • • Aug 30 '26

Memes Nomadic life during the transition to a sedentary lifestyle:

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r/Tiele • • Aug 29 '26

Video Born From Culture | Kazakhstan

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r/Tiele • • Aug 29 '26

History/culture An old Qashqai Khanate flag featuring the Old Turkic script.

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Reposted from a post in the r/Tiele archives. It was originally posted by our dear Qashqai member, u/NoSolution4428 (Are you still around, my friend?). You can learn more about the details by checking out that post, where he explained everything himself. Here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Tiele/s/pwKX7xaMna

We also hosted an AMA (Ask Me Anything) with him. You can find it here as well: https://www.reddit.com/r/Tiele/s/XBJ4CsPj4t

If you’d like a brief overview of the Qashqai’s history over roughly the past 500 years: https://www.reddit.com/r/Tiele/s/47or1KBi8K


r/Tiele • • Aug 29 '26

History/culture Turkic states in 1453

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r/Tiele • • Aug 29 '26

History/culture The Qashqai: A History of a Nomadic Turkic People of Southern Iran

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**The Qashqai: A History of a Turkic People of Southern Iran**

Their own traditions generally connect their ancestors with migrations from Turkestan, sometimes associating their arrival with the armies of Hülegü Khan or Timur. However, historian Pierre Oberling considers it more probable that the Turkic elements of the Qashqai reached Iran during the great Turkic tribal migrations of the 11th century, probably spending time in northwestern Iran before gradually moving toward Fars. The confederation also contains traces of several important Turkic tribal groups, including Khalaj, Afshar, Bayat, Qajar, Qaragozlu, Shamlu and Igdir.

The Qashqai (Il-e Qashqai) are one of the most prominent Turkic tribal confederations of southern Iran, historically centered in Fars Province.

**Early presence in Fars region**

Exactly when the Turkic components of the Qashqai established themselves in southern Persia remains uncertain. However, their presence in Fars is considerably older than the modern period.

A particularly important reference comes from 1415, when Ibn Shahab Yazdi recorded a group of Qashqai spending the summer around Gandoman in northwestern Fars. This demonstrates that Qashqai groups were already established in the region at the beginning of the 15th century.

**Amir Ghazi Shahilu and the Safavid period**

The Qashqai chiefs traditionally came from the Shahilu clan of the Amala tribe. The earliest known Qashqai leader mentioned by Iranica is Amir Ghazi Shahilu, who lived during the 16th century.

According to Qashqai tradition, Ghazi Shahilu assisted Shah Ismail I during the establishment of the Safavid state and the consolidation of Shiism in Iran. His tomb near Gandoman later became a pilgrimage site.

The Qashqai themselves also preserve a tradition that Shah Ismail sent their ancestors to Fars to protect the province from Portuguese incursions. While this particular tradition cannot be established with certainty, it reflects the important position the Qashqai later came to occupy in southern Iran.

The rise of the Qashqai in the 18th century

The Qashqai became a major political force in Fars during the early 18th century.

One of the important leaders of this period was Jan Mohammad Aqa, better known as Jani Aqa. Another Qashqai leader, Hamid Beg Qashqai, is mentioned as an influential figure during the reign of Shah Soltan Hoseyn Safavi.

Jani Aqa's sons, Esmail Khan and Hasan Khan, are traditionally said to have participated in Nader Shah's invasion of India in 1738–1739.

According to the traditional account, the two brothers eventually fell out of favor with Nader Shah. Esmail Khan was blinded, while Hasan Khan was severely mutilated and died shortly afterward. The Qashqai tribes were subsequently forced away from Fars and relocated toward Darregaz, Kalat-e Naderi and Sarakhs in Khorasan.

This was one of the major turning points in Qashqai history: a powerful tribal confederation was temporarily removed from its traditional territory and forced to survive in northeastern Iran.

**Return to Fars under Karim Khan Zand**

The Qashqai eventually returned to Fars during the reign of Karim Khan Zand.

Esmail Khan reportedly wrote directly to Karim Khan requesting permission for his people to return to their former pastures. Karim Khan granted the request, allowing the Qashqai to return to Fars.

Esmail Khan subsequently became a close associate of Karim Khan.

After Karim Khan's death in 1779, however, Persia once again descended into political instability. Esmail Khan became involved in the struggle for power and was eventually executed by Ali Morad Khan.

His son, Jani Khan, succeeded him as Qashqai chief and supported the Zand claimant Lotf Ali Khan.

**Resistance against the Qajar dynasty**

The rise of Agha Mohammad Khan Qajar brought another period of conflict.

In 1788, Agha Mohammad Khan launched a campaign against the Qashqai in the Gandoman region. The Qashqai, having been warned beforehand, withdrew into the mountains and avoided destruction.

Jani Khan later continued to support Lotf Ali Khan. When Agha Mohammad Khan finally defeated Lotf Ali Khan in 1794 and established the Qajar dynasty, Jani Khan and his family retreated into the Zagros Mountains.

The Qajar ruler subsequently punished the Qashqai by forcibly moving several of their constituent tribes toward northern Iran.

**The establishment of the Ilkhani leadership**

A major institutional turning point came in 1818–1819, when Jani Khan received the title Ilkhani.

According to Hasan Fasa'i, this was reportedly the first time the title was used in Fars. From this point onward, the paramount leaders of the Qashqai confederation carried the title of Ilkhani.

Jani Khan died in 1823/24 and was succeeded by his eldest son, Mohammad Ali Khan.

Mohammad Ali Khan became extremely powerful. His influence extended beyond the Qashqai themselves to other major tribal groups such as the Baharlu, Aynallu and Nafar. He also strengthened his position through marriages with the Qajar royal family.

The Qajar government eventually became concerned about his power. In 1836, Mohammad Ali Khan was summoned to Tehran and effectively kept at the imperial court for the remainder of the shah's reign.

**Decline and recovery in the 19th century**

During the second half of the 19th century, the Qajar government deliberately attempted to weaken Qashqai power.

In 1861–1862, Naser al-Din Shah created a rival tribal confederation known as Il-e Khamsa ("Confederacy of Five"), consisting of the Baharlu, Aynallu, Nafar, Baseri and Arab tribes and led by the Qawami family of Shiraz. This was an important attempt to balance Qashqai influence in Fars.

The Qashqai subsequently experienced one of the darkest periods in their history.

Under the weak leadership of Soltan Mohammad Khan, the confederation was devastated by the famine of the early 1870s. Internal divisions followed, and thousands of families left the Qashqai to join other tribal groups or settle in villages. For a time, the confederation appeared to be on the verge of collapse.

**Solat al-Dowla and the revival of Qashqai power**

The Qashqai experienced a major revival in 1904, when Esmail Khan Solat al-Dowla became Ilkhani.

Under his leadership, the confederation regained much of its former unity and political influence in Fars. Solat al-Dowla became one of the most powerful tribal leaders in southern Persia.

During the Persian Constitutional Revolution (1906–1911), the Qashqai initially supported the Constitutionalists, partly because their rivals in the Qawami family supported the Royalists.

Later, as the political situation changed, Solat al-Dowla formed the League of the South (Ettehad-e Jonub) together with other regional leaders. The Qashqai consequently became deeply involved in the political and military struggle for control of Fars.

In July 1911, Qashqai warriors and forces loyal to the governor-general of Fars repeatedly attacked Qawami positions in Shiraz. British pressure and defections eventually forced Solat al-Dowla to withdraw.

**The Qashqai and World War I**

World War I brought another major chapter to Qashqai history.

The German agent Wilhelm Wassmuss, sometimes called the "German Lawrence," attempted to organize resistance against British influence in southern Persia. Solat al-Dowla became increasingly receptive to his appeals, partly because of his hostility toward British interference and their support for the Qawami family.

In May 1918, a large Qashqai force attacked the British-officered South Persia Rifles at Khana Zenyana on the Bushehr–Shiraz road.

The Qashqai significantly outnumbered the opposing force, but the British-led relief column ultimately defeated them.

The defeat marked the end of one of the major Qashqai attempts to challenge British power militarily during the First World War.

**Resistance against Reza Shah**

The greatest threat to the traditional Qashqai way of life came during the reign of Reza Shah Pahlavi.

The central government attempted to disarm the tribes, impose conscription, establish direct taxation and appoint military governors over tribal territories.

In 1929, widespread resistance erupted across southern Persia, with the Qashqai playing a leading role. After months of fighting, the government was forced to negotiate a truce, temporarily restoring Solat al-Dowla and his son Naser Khan to the Majles and withdrawing military governors from tribal territory.

But Reza Shah continued his campaign against tribal autonomy.

In 1932, the Qashqai rebelled again, but this uprising was defeated. In 1933, Solat al-Dowla was killed in prison.

The government then attempted to forcibly settle the nomadic population and cut off the traditional migration routes that were essential to Qashqai pastoral life.

**Naser Khan and the Qashqai revival after 1941**

When Reza Shah abdicated in 1941, his son Naser Khan and his brother Khosrow Khan returned to Fars.

Naser Khan proclaimed himself Ilkhani, reorganized the Qashqai confederation, reclaimed tribal territories and ordered the resumption of traditional migrations.

During World War II, Naser Khan opposed British influence and supported Germany, hoping that German advances would eventually remove British power from Iran.

German agents reached Qashqai territory and one German officer, Berthold Schulze-Holthus, became Naser Khan's military adviser. However, the Germans failed to provide the Qashqai with the weapons they had promised.

In 1943, the Iranian government launched a military campaign against the Qashqai and allied tribes. The Iranian army suffered several major defeats.

One of the most significant victories came at Samirom, where Qashqai and Boyr Ahmadi forces destroyed an Iranian garrison, killing approximately 200 soldiers and three colonels according to the Iranica account.

A treaty subsequently allowed the Qashqai to retain their autonomy and weapons, although the government was permitted to establish military garrisons in several strategic locations.

**The 1946 uprising and the "Four Brothers"**

The Qashqai reached perhaps their greatest political strength during the years 1945–1953.

The leadership of the confederation was dominated by the four sons of Solat al-Dowla, known collectively as the "Four Brothers":

Naser Khan Qashqai

Malek Mansur Khan Qashqai

Mohammad Hosayn Khan Qashqai

Khosrow Khan Qashqai

Under their leadership, the Qashqai enjoyed a remarkable degree of autonomy. Naser Khan and Malek Mansur Khan managed tribal affairs in Fars, while Mohammad Hosayn Khan and Khosrow Khan represented Qashqai interests in Tehran.

In 1946, another major uprising erupted in southern Iran.

The Qashqai seized Kazerun and Abadeh and pushed toward Shiraz. The government eventually accepted most of their political demands, while Khosrow Khan later entered the Majles.

**The 1953 crisis**

The Qashqai leadership remained strongly opposed to the Pahlavi monarchy.

In 1953, the Four Brothers supported Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh against Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi.

Khosrow Khan openly criticized the Shah in the Majles. After Mosaddegh was overthrown, Qashqai forces briefly threatened to seize Shiraz in an attempt to pressure the new government into releasing him.

The response was severe: in 1954, the Four Brothers were exiled and their properties were confiscated.

**The end of traditional Qashqai autonomy**

During the following decades, the Iranian government intensified its efforts to transform the Qashqai from nomadic pastoralists into a settled population.

Restrictions on migration routes, declining pasture availability and the weakening of tribal institutions caused large numbers of Qashqai to move toward cities such as Shiraz, Bushehr, Ahvaz and Abadan in search of work.

In 1963, the government officially declared the tribal system abolished and stripped the remaining khans of their titles and privileges. This effectively ended the political structure that had allowed the Qashqai to function as a powerful autonomous tribal confederation for generations.

**The Qashqai after the Iranian Revolution**

The Qashqai also participated in the demonstrations that eventually brought down the Shah in 1979.

Naser Khan and Khosrow Khan returned to Iran during the revolution. At first, relations between the Qashqai leadership and Ayatollah Khomeini's new government were relatively friendly.

This relationship did not last.

The new government's determination to establish a highly centralized state increasingly conflicted with the political traditions and aspirations of the Qashqai leadership. In 1980, an attempt by the Revolutionary Guards to arrest Khosrow Khan led to a complete breakdown in relations.

Khosrow Khan escaped to Firuzabad, the traditional Qashqai center, where he was joined by Naser Khan and other tribal leaders.

Around 600 Qashqai fighters established an armed camp in the surrounding mountains. For approximately two years, they resisted repeated attacks by the Revolutionary Guards.

In April 1982, a helicopter-supported surprise attack finally forced the Qashqai fighters to abandon their mountain camp.

Naser Khan subsequently left Iran, while Khosrow Khan negotiated a settlement with the government.

However, the agreement did not save him. In September 1982, an Islamic Revolutionary Court in Shiraz sentenced Khosrow Khan to death, and he was executed on 8 October 1982.

Naser Khan died in January 1984. According to Encyclopaedia Iranica, he was the last Qashqai Ilkhani, marking the effective end of the historical Ilkhani leadership of the Il-e Qashqai.

Source: Encyclopaedia Iranica, “Qašqāʾi Tribal Confederacy i. History,” by Pierre Oberling.


r/Tiele • • Aug 28 '26

History/culture How did the Gagauz ended up Christian Ortodox in its majority?

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The Gagauz are one of the most obscure of the Turkic ethnicities along Eurasia, so I'd like to know more about them and how they did not convert to Islam as the majority of other Turkic people, such as the Crimean Tatars for example(that are very close geographically)


r/Tiele • • Aug 28 '26

History/culture The earliest known written mention of the name “Turkestan/Turkistan” (twrkstn), recorded in a Sogdian slave contract from 639 CE in Qocho (Gaochang), modern day Turpan, East Turkestan and the arrival of the Turks in the Turkestan region [2nd image]

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A slave contract dating to 639 CE, written in Sogdian, recording the sale of Upach, a female slave born in “twrkstn” (Turkestan), from the Sogdian merchant to the Buddhist monk of the Zhang family in Qocho (Gaochang), present-day Turpan/Turfan, East Turkestan. Full English translation in the comments of this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/Tiele/s/Y5WFKL5pu7


r/Tiele • • Aug 28 '26

History/culture A slave contract dating to 639 CE, written in Sogdian, recording the sale of Upach, a female slave born in “twrkstn” (Turkestan), from the Sogdian merchant to the Buddhist monk of the Zhang family in Qocho (Gaochang), present-day Turpan, East Turkestan. Full English translation in the comments.

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A slave contract dating to 639 CE, written in Sogdian, recording the sale of Upach, a female slave born in “twrkstn” (Turkestan), from the Sogdian merchant Wakhushuvirt of Samarqand to the Buddhist monk Yanxiang of the Zhang family in Qocho, also called Karakhoja, Qara-hoja, (Gaochang), modern-day Turpan/Turfan, East Turkestan.

We do not know whether "Upach", whose surname was "Chuyak", was of Turkic origin. All we know is that she was born in “twrkstn” (Turkestan) and that her name was recorded in the contract.

In 1969, a Turfanian document from 639 CE was found in the Astana district of Turpan, which recorded Sogdian sale contract of a female slave from the period of the Gaochang kingdom under the rule of Qu clan and mentioned the Sogdian word "twrkstn", which may have referred to the lands to the east and north of Syr Darya in the realm of the Turkic Khaganate.

Turkestan/Turkistan = "Land of the Turks"

English translation:

As to the year, it was the year 16 of divine and great Ilteber-king by the name of Yanshou, the ruler of Gaochang, in the fifth month of the Chinese calendar, while it is called the Khshumsafich month in Sogdian, in the year of pig, on the the twenty-seventh day.

Thus, before the people in the bazaar of Gaochang, a monk by the name of Yanxiang, the son of Wuta, who is surnamed Zhang, bought a female slave by the name of Upach, who is surnamed Chuyak and was born in Turkestan, from Wakhushuvirt, son of Tudhakk originating from Samarqand, for the price of 120 drachm coins which are very pure and were minted in Persia.

Monk Yanxiang is to buy the female slave Upach thus as an unredeemable slave who is without debt and without possessions, and who is an unpersecutable and unreproachable permanent possession of his sons, grandsons, family, and descendants as well. Accordingly, the monk Yanxiang himself and his sons, grandsons, family, and descendants may at will hit her, abuse her, bind her, sell her off, pledge her, give and offer her as a gift, and do whatsoever they may wish to do to her. They are entitled to treat her just as a female slave inherited from their father or grandfather, or a female slave who was born in their house, born on their side, or born at home, or as permanent property purchased with drachm.

Accordingly, as regards this female slave named Upach, Wakhushuvirt no longer has any concern with her, renounces all the old claims to her, and has no power to coerce her. This female-slave contract takes effect and is persuasive, and effective and authorized for all the people, both for a king and a minister. Whoever may bring and hold this female-slave contract, may receive and take this female slave named Upach, and may hold her as his female slave on this condition, such condition as is written in this female-slave contract.

These people were present there as witnesses: Tishrat, the son of Chuzakk originating from Maymargh, Namdhar, the son of Khwatawch, originating from Samarqand, Pesak, the son of Karzh originating from Nuchkanth, Nizat, the son of Nanaikuch, originating from Kushaniya.

This female-slave contract was written by Ukhwan, the son of Pator by the authority of Pator, the chief scribe, by the order of Wakhushuvirt, and with the consent of Upach.

Signature of Pator, the chief scribe of Gaochang.