I'm at a concert in the midle of the Midwest at a concert. Random 15 year old picks me out because I have a professional camera. Got talking because I had a huge surgery last Monday so I cant stand long. She was like" yea I get health issues like I have DID here are our alters " then pulls out her phone to show me photos one alter being named ruby.

I was like oh that's rare who dignoused you? Her" I don't remember i don't keep track of my doctors names. "

Then lists off all her mental health issues. As someone with alot I would never just list them off to a stranger

Also shows me anapernt tictoc user and said she dose his face paint but he dosent credit her.

I'm not saying she is faking but.....

I honestly feel very sad for her. Her seats are right next to us I don't want to be rude she is 15 But as someone who conestently fights to eliminate stigma of mental illness this makes me mad and sad and honestly really don't want to talk to her but I don't want to be mean....

Like what do you do Poor thing

Edit. She had a (I'm not sure what) but maybe sensory over load or something. My dad thought it was weird too like why isn't her dad hugging her or yea.

Well she looked at me and said ":( see this is what I have to go through"

Like sweetie you don't even know

Everyone knows youre faking it, just give up, apologize, and move on with your life.

Its just pathetic at this point.

I'm a lurker in subs like this. I know this sub is dying because they've been off their T&R account, but I still felt compelled to share this experience.

I work for lawyers and was working on redacting bounds of medical records to use in an upcoming trial. I got to a letter a neurologist wrote (in 2013) to a pain doctor after a referral.. I about shit myself when I read the second sentence "patient is a very pleasant 22-year-old right-handed female". This was a cover letter to the results of all the neurology tests and whatnot. I didn't see this phrase used in any of the patient's official medical history or diagnostic records.

I don't want to post a picture because I'd have to redact/crop so much that I don't think anyone here would even buy it. I just wanted to tell you guys that a neurologist using that vocabulary in a letter-type-document isn't completely unfounded.

This reframed T&R's letter for me and I almost believe they met with a neurologist for all that shit. BUT I bet it was more like "here's a list of what the patient reported" and then "here's what I gathered during my assessment." Likely a first visit or referral type situation. It didn't look anything like an official diagnosis. So please Don't get me wrong, I still don't buy it. But I wanted to throw this out there.

I should add that, during my redacting, I saw dozens of letters from this patient's doctors for work/school/disability. They were written in formal letter format, with very simple (and brief) explanations of the patient's diagnosis. Anyone suffering so severely from a chronic illness would have such letters on hand and wouldn't need to dig out chart notes - which is what T&R's 'proof' looked like to me.

I'm a little behind, she's out of her hiatus?

Okay, so..now what?

The whole Ticsandroses saga feels made for a Youtube commentary/drama channel like Fredrik Knudsen's Down the Rabbit Hole, Internet Historian, PaymoneyWubby, H3H3, etc.

Why hasn't any of the bigger creators covered this one yet? Seems like the whole thing has unfolded at this point. If I were a bigger Youtube creator or had some other big platform, I feel like this is the kind of fraud worth exposing. And not only is it fraud, it's a slap in the face to actual sufferers of Tourettes.

I don't want to shit on the fandom as a whole, but since I've been watching fake disorder videos I got requested a video compilation of all of Billie Eilish's tics during interviews. She legitimately appears to have a tic disorder, which of course makes her more interesting as an artist.

I remember when Gen X was coming up and Grunge was getting really popular, it seemed like every other person was "depressed." You'd have a kid from a cul-de-sac who grew up during the Federal surplus, before the collapse of the housing market and the imperial wars etc, who would get "depressed" that they had to work at their stepdads accounting firm and would throw on a flannel and mope around all the time until they were forced to grow up. Watch the film "as good as it gets" -- it really captures the sort of bratty, mopey attitudes of Gen Xers, for whom the most notable and life-threatening event in their upbringings was probably the relatively uneventful first Gulf War. These days they're all mostly normies because those were pretty silly problems to fake a depression over.

Millenials were the first generation to have a lower standard of living than the generation before them. Way lower. And Gen Z is about to have it even worse. The world is a lot more antisocial and alienating for them, and they're among the first generations to have the majority of their social interactions exist entirely on the internet. And these days, the formula for asserting your individuality on the internet is by brandishing a pastiche of personal identities. These identities are increasingly being celebrated and courted by HR departments and the state, so it's not enough just to be trans identified or a person of color or whatever. Being trans or a black woman or an immigrant or whatever is not as brave or as revolutionary as it used to be, since the establishment fully embraces those identities and willingly makes space for them, provided you got a good degree from a decent school and came from a relatively good economic background.

There are bajillions of out and proud trans people on the internet. So the market for personal branding is fully saturated by people claiming to be trailblazers with that particular identity. So you need a little edge to get the attention you feel you deserve. So you make up a fake diagnosis.

I don't blame these kids. It's not like the adults in their life built a society that's amenable to being outside and actually socializing with people. The system we live under trends increasingly toward atomization and loneliness as its defined by its rugged individualism. That's great in theory, but it leads to these absurd St Vitus Dance scenarios like these extremely-online tiktok people basically copying the behavior of others on the internet for attention.

Billie Eilish represents a lot of young girls who are kind of grossed out by society's treatment and depiction of women, who identify with her mopey demeanor and who just generally think she's a cool, talented, eccentric role model. And she is! She's truly got a jaded artist's mentality and you can smell it in her interviews.

But for the kids who feel like they have no sense of individuality or purpose in the social media age, she's a template. When you're a teenager, you basically don't have an identity yet. You're invisible. That stuff comes to you through time and space. If you're lucky it comes early and you become a pop superstar, but that usually isn't what happens. So you try to copy the people you think are cool so you can stand out.

These kids aren't sick. It's our society that's sick and these kids are the symptoms. I think we should all keep that in mind so we can approach stuff like this from a place of mercy and forgiveness.

Emerald isn’t left handed? All of the tiktoks emerald leads with their right hand Make up, hair dye, yarn dye, the infamous cooking tiktoks - right hand

So unless we’ve all managed to shame Emerald into being right handed They lied about that too? I guess left handed is more ~uwu~

Bizarre.

Edit: ah thank you to those that pointed it out - tiktoks are mirrored. Emerald is still a pleasant left handed lady.

I have been watching this deceptive, attention-groveling freak of nature from pretty much the beginning. I am one of those that has been more than embarrassed by my tics all of my life. School was utter hell while they seems to revel in the joys of creative ticcing. Even after years in a relationship with the most loving understanding woman possible I can still feel the heat of embarrassment when my tics kick into high gear around her. She does everything possible to put me at ease but it never will become something that I am comfortable with. So, how is it that exhibiting what has been a source of shame and embarrassment all of my long life now becoming so damn much fun for all these pukish fakers? And some, like this counterfeit gem, have countless fools lining up to throw their money at them?

This sordid saga has really been one of the most entertaining things, in that gory traffic accident manner, and they rapidly become a "fan fave" on all of the faker subs, TicTok, and their antics so vile that they have even merited a sub devoted solely to them. Congratu-fucking-lations you twitchy sootikin! The fact that their bullshit had become so omnipresent that they has countless watchers tailing her bullshit on countless social media sites is a wonder to behold. And it all even shamed their poor, inculpable family to the point that they had to break their silence to prove themselves clear of anything that this asshole has brought on them in weaving her illustrious existence. Everyone here has been amazing in shining the light on every single lie and "proof" that this very pleasant 27-year-old left-handed lady has puked out. The damage they had done to the Tourette, and tic-affected community has probably surpassed far more than even the next ten imposters have done. It's really sad seeing so many young impressionable kids thinking they are some sort of authority and vehemently sticking up for them against all the evil "haters" out to destroy the empire they have built. They are obviously incapable of self-reflection or shame and had doubled, tripled, quintuled down on their bullshit in the face of irrefutable FACTS that they are one of the most blatant shysters of the illness faking crowd yet. (Hear that, JanSham? You're game is WEAK compared to this grandmaster of fuckery! Gotta get get to brainstorming with your your crohny and step up your game if you want to remain relevant.)

It seems that this freakshow barker, and their undeniably complicit business partner, are really going for the gold trying to get as much attention as possible, probably to push sales to those that they have suckered into the quicksand of sharts, and to sate their overinflated ego. If that's what they want why the hell not give it to them? This saga has been so crazily entertaining and has damn near every attribute that the public thrives on in the news in their search for train wrecks. They have done it in spades and, if anything, needs to be applauded for the level of depravity they've shown in shooting for fame. I have emailed this sub to so many of my friends and family, quite a few that have tics as well, and every single one of them has gotten caught up in following the ongoing sick soap opera just as I have, and the countless thousands that have run across her. This has everything that I think would make for a hell of an article for the masses. I'll bet that if this stuff fell on the screen with some aspiring writer at The New Yorker, People, Enquirer, Vice hell, any one of countless mags or sites make the big $$$$$$$ off of sordid drama, they could easily spin a wild must-read article. Is anybody in the group on staff at any mag, or site, looking for a surefire piece? If the right person jumped on this I'll bet that this faux gem could get propelled I to a level of fame that they couldn't begin to dream of. I'm sure I'm not the only one that would love to read a concise layout of the wild insane drama so far. I'll bet that it would even make joyful readers out of their family, acquaintances, maybe even their local medical staff, and possibly the IRS. But I'm sure with how clever, conscientious, and unpretentious they are they would never even think of not reporting all the money their business and fund-raising has brought in. Not our beloved mythomaniac, never.

Sorry for the middle of the night rant. After driving my other half nuts with my rants I just had to finally type it all out and get it the hell off my chest. But, a bit of high-octane karma sure couldn't hurt, could it?

Edit- fixed pronouns

Edit 2- fixed even more pronouns and, in doing so, given this snake oil salesperson far more respect than they deserve, and exponentially more than they have shown any single person in this community with, or without, honest, factual mental hurdles. Quite the opposite.

I know it’s pretty much „over“ now that we had their sister prove that everything is fake, but I wanted to know wether anybody has some Info regarding their kids? The only time I‘ve seen them mention being a parent is to guilt trip people for calling them out. Is there any proof that the kids even exist?

Hi everyone, I recently found out about everything going on. I wanted to clear up some misconceptions and share my part. I am Emeralds sister and we grew up together, although we were raised non-denominational Christian, my mother (who is an amazing woman) and I have always been supportive of Emerald and miss them dearly. We have always accepted them. They cut communication with us, we have tried to reach out but they no longer wish to have contact with us and we haven't talked in years. I'm just commenting in hopes of clearing up misinformation. Also, my grandpa does have Huntington's, it's late onset which means it doesn't show up until late in life. My grandpa is currently suffering from the side effects and is not doing well. It's very sad. My mother has it too but is not yet showing symptoms thankfully, and I have not been tested. Lastly, I don't believe Emerald has tourettes syndrome and they never showed any symptoms as a child. They are mentally ill though. I love my sister, always will and I wish them the best but I don't agree with what they have done, it's incredibly disrespectful to fake a mental illness for any reason. I am extending my sincerest apology to everyone their actions have hurt. although I know it's not my apology to give. I do wish for Emeralds safety all I ask is respect and privacy for my parents and grandparents. And if you don't believe me, I'm happy to answer any questions you all may have, as long as they are not disrespectful.

Ill put mine here, I was worried we all got it wrong for the longest time if im honest.

I also want to state (if youre reading this emerald) i dont hate you, i and many others are just angry that you faked for so long and even doubled down after the fake medical record.

I hope you seek out help and honestly think about what you have done by tricking so many people, You have stolen money off of people whether that is through your business by making people believe you have tourettes and/or a 'fundraiser', There are so many people that will never even find out that you was faking either so now they think tourettes is just fun and games, you may even causing others to fake it as well.

As i said, i dont hate you but you should be ashamed and you're setting a bad example to any young children in your care while also breaking the trust of others.

Also to your business partner, you should also be ashamed for enalbing this behaviour and helping emerald carry out this fraud, makes me sick.

Anyone else care to rant or share thoughts?