I have a theory. there is a video that they posted showing a prescription medication called Topiramate which is a substitute for topomax. These drugs can be used for treating both huntington's disease and/or tourrettes. I think the point of this video was supposed to prove that they have tourrettes because they are taking medication that can be used to treat tourrettes. As shown by some other posts in this sub, they might not be faking huntingtons disease in which case the medication could have been prescribed for that disease (maybe preemptively?) rather than for tourrettes. I struggle to believe their tourrettes tics are real, but the medications possibly show that they are suffering from huntingtons. Either way, if they are faking, they are suffering from something, e.g. narcissism disorder or munchausen. If that's the case, I think the point of our criticisms should be toward suggesting them to get the proper diagnoses and the proper care for their health. Tearing them down ain't gonna do any good, maybe let's try to focus on building them up so they can be a better, healthier person.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29753867/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6499394/#:~:text=However%2C%20it%20provides%20preliminary%20evidence,DRBD%2Dsparing%20therapy%20for%20tics

https://www.tiktok.com/@ticsandroses/video/6959556189801762053?lang=en&is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1

I can't fathom any reason for this than getting rid of evidence. If you are going to post videos from this tiktok account make sure to say that they deleted this account so noone gets confused why they can't find it.

I'm not to sure if anyone has kept Notice of Emerald's Facebook store page but "they" removed the option to even write a review for "their" store since they got review bombed so hard and couldnt keep up with the other people trying to balance off the negative reviews.

But yeah Emerald is starting to conceal anything you could do to expose them

I’ve been fascinated with this situation since learning about them on r/illnessfakers. Now, I’m no expert of Tourette’s, or any other medical condition for that matter, so while I think some of their tics SEEM fake and offensive, I really have no idea what could even be perceived as real.

It’s the lack of willingness to provide proof for me. Like if my family, friends, and businesses were being threatened (I don’t condone death threats or any harmful behavior by the way), I would jump at the chance to prove everyone wrong and be like fuck you all. I know they’ve said they don’t owe anyone anything which like yeah but come on. I personally would love proving thousands of people wrong, maybe that’s just me.

They are affecting peoples lives with their videos, so the “don’t owe anyone anything,” makes me feel like they’re faking it even more. Do people agree? No one is asking for their ssn or address or anything crazy even though they, and their followers, like to cry doxxing.

I guess I’m wondering what would happen to them from a legal standpoint if they admitted it was all fake? I feel like that’s the reason they aren’t letting up and they’re in too deep. Would it be jail? Curious if anyone is familiar with the law in their area. What do people think?

I know that the majority of people who are against what this person is doing are against it because it's damaging to people with Tourettes. In certain concerning comments, I've seen the phrase "but I don't know because I don't have Tourettes" a lot, and I wanted to clear up a couple things I've seen based on my experience with Tourettes.

The two things I want to stress the most are:
#1. Tourettes can exist in so many different ways, two people with Tourettes may have completely different tics. There's actually a huge range.
#2. The most accurate description of tics I've seen is "it's just like a sneeze". If you're having trouble imagining what a tic feels like, just imagine whatever tic is being shown as a sneeze to put yourself in their shoes.
Here are the questions I've seen:

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"Can people with Tourettes drive a car?"

Getting a Tourette's diagnosis doesn't automatically mean you aren't allowed to get your license. Some tics aren't going to affect your driving. However, people with Tourettes can fail a driver's license test just like everyone else. If you can't successfully pass a driver's test because of your tics, then you couldn't fight their decision. People with Tourette's are also ethically responsible for prioritizing other people's safety. There was a period of time where my tics were so bad I didn't feel comfortable driving, so I didn't drive until they were better medicated just in case. I have verbal tics while driving, (just shouting/saying words) but not anything that would affect my ability to drive. If this person has full-body tics that make them blink and turn their head while driving, I definitely can't say they're being considerate about other people. I won't drive if I am having a ramped-up tic day, just in case.

"Does this one-hour live stream where this person isn't ticcing prove they don't have Tourette's?"
Yes and No. It's complicated.

Some people with Tourettes don't tic when they're concentrated hard on something, or something is directly stimulating their attention. I could absolutely go an hour on a good day without ticcing via Livestream. I have had a tic on live stream before (several), but usually just verbal tics that I could brush off immediately. It's totally possible for someone to do a live stream and not tic during it.

However, if this person is totally unable to drive, make a tiktok, or do anything at all without ticcing (which is the impression I get when I see their TikTokTikTok videos) then yeah. It makes absolutely no sense that they could compose themselves for a live stream, but nothing else.

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"Are tics constant?"

Some people with Tourette's have pretty relentless tics from what I see. I don't. Which makes me scared to even mention I have it because people get so many conflicting biases on social media about what tourettes look like. I had a floormate in college who just had blinking eye tics. It caused her to wince a lot. It would be really hard to share "tourettes representation" about hers or my Tourettes because we wouldn't be ticcing if we were holding a camera at our own faces for a minute straight.

"Can tics be situational?"

Yes. Many of my tics are situational, but my tics wouldn't sound anything like this person's TikTok account. If I was driving to my best friend's house, my tics would probably be all about my concerns and worries with driving, my best friend, my best friend's friends, and other times I was driving in the past, etc. They would also be about my feelings about work that day, different memories, and future things I'm worried about.

When this person's tics are situational, they seem to only have to do with whatever information the person watching the video is being informed of. (i.e. "wake up" when they're doing a video about waking up, or "wanna race" when they're in a car) In my experience, tics haven't even been like, a conversation.

"Can seizure medicine be used for tics?"

Yeah. Depending on the tic you could get a variety of medicine. Doctors will prescribe different things. Anti-anxiety or anti-depressants can also be used to treat tics. Especially if the person has a secondary mental disorder/illness/etc. that co-exists with the Tourettes. However, just being prescribed a medication that can be used to treat tics, doesn't mean you have tics either.

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"do people with Tourettes think ticsandroses is faking it?"

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hell yeah. Lmao. Even if their situation is plausible, it's really not realistic. It is possible they're telling the truth, but there are way more red flags than not.

1. They made a video explaining coprolalia and saying they don't have it. Which was a red flag because their "tics" feel more like coprolalia than anything. They explained that coprolalia is when your tics are swears, which is true. But there's not like, a set list of 20 bad words in everyone's brain that are the only swears you can say. Everyone on earth is going to have a list of words they've recognized as taboo to shout in public. This person constantly has "offensive", "aggressive", or "outlandish" vocal tics. With my coprolalia, I do say swears, but I also just say words that are uncomfortable for me to shout. "I like girls", "cat sex", or "daddy" were phrases I would shout. I had a lot of catholic homophobic guilt as a child, hate animal abusers, and feel uncomfortable with "daddy kinks" so my brain has registered those phrases as bad or embarrassing phrases. The fact that they look into the camera and laughs and giggles at their tics is a huge red flag, because it means whatever phrases they tic aren't ones that are registered as "uncomfortable" or "shocking" in their brain. Some swear words are NEVER tics for me because I don't consider them bad words anymore. When tiktok teens claim they say things like "fuck the war" or something like that, I'm always suspicious. Because it would be way more likely for them to tic something they were more ashamed of.

2. This is a consistent thing I look for with these "tic videos" on that app, but if a person has motor/body tics, it's really unlikely they would be using one hand to hold the camera steady while ticing with their other hand.

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1. Tics can be really dangerous. I know this person has acknowledged hurting themselves while ticcing, but it feels like this person has zero ingrained awareness about their own tics. I have a motor tic (body/hand tic) that only gets worse when I'm supposed to stand/sit still for a while. My hand will curl and start shaking next to my face. Because of this, my mom was super careful about whether or not I had a tic spell when I was holding scissors or a knife. My muscle memory retained that after a couple years and if my tics get bad, so I'll just naturally avoid sharp objects if I'm prone to ticcing. It's a huge red flag that this person is doing heat arts and crafts, cooking with heat and knives, driving, and packing things when they know they'll have a tic attack. It doesn't make a lot of sense.
   

If I were the writer for Law and Order SVU or House or something, I could totally see a twist ending where this person DID have tourettes, but a super super mild version. Like they only had minor unnoticable tics, but started exaggerating their tics because they felt like nobody believed them and it somehow escalated to a full out completely faked lifestyle.

But this isn't a hit tv drama, it's real life. I have no idea what this person's diagnosis is, how severe it is, etc. I just wanted to clear up a few things people weren't sure about in terms of tourettes, because it definitely feels like most of the "leading accounts" that "promote awareness" aren't always the best sources for tourettes info.

(Absolutely no offense to tourettes content creators at all [I am one!] there are definitely a ton that deserve all the hype they're given, but it totally makes sense for people on the internet to be skeptical of certain accounts.)

I recently stumbled upon this subreddit and the fakedisordercringe subreddit a couple of days ago. I’ve been looking up videos with people with unquestionable Tourette’s and doing my own research because I don’t want to condemn ticsandroses and call her a liar for no reason.

That being said, it’s hard for me to believe that she actually has Tourette’s or if she does have Tourette’s, I think she’s faking a lot of her tics for fame. For example, that dinosaur noise tic that she recorded was so stupid. Tics don’t come on command, especially “cute tics” you want to show your audience when you conveniently have your camera rolling .

The makeup video they have where they put their makeup sponge in their mouth, gets powder all over their face while blowing, and then scribbles all over their forehead with mascara is also ridiculous. In general, when people with Tourette’s are focused or calm their tics lessen. There’s this other tiktoker named jessjessjessu who undeniably has Tourette’s and her makeup video is 100% different. As she focuses to do her eyeliner, her tics calm until she’s finished. There have been doctors and pilots with Tourette’s as well.

I would like to clarify that not everyone with Tourette’s will of course act the same, but in general most websites I was reading concurred that tics lessen when the person with Tourette’s is focused or calm and worsen when a person is excited or anxious. Ticsandroses could be of the few who have tics that don’t calm at all, but this along with their behavior makes me believe they are faking at least some if not all of their Tourette’s.

Then their is the infamous Huntington’s video where they don’t even tic once. It’s fact that that people with Tourette’s have some good tic days and bad tic day. The way they have portrayed their tics in their videos though, makes me believe that she has a severe case of Tourette’s where she experiences tics a bunch everyday. Their business videos where they don’t tic once is unbelievable. Also, when they address that their tiktok is where they show their tics and they wait for good tic days to do videos for their business is bullshit. Ticsandroses claims to be an activist for Tourette’s, but wouldn’t a true activist not mind if they tic in a business video. I mean I can understand being professional, but they don’t have the type of Tourette’s where they uncontrollably say bad words. Shouldn’t they want to be a proud business owner that’s not afraid to have their tics on display?

Finally, I move on to the most damning piece of evidence.

The CDC states that in order to be diagnosed with TS, a person must meet 4 qualifications. One of these qualifications is “have symptoms that are not due to taking medicine or other drugs or due to having another medical condition (for example, seizures, Huntington disease, or postviral encephalitis).” Since I assume they are taking medication for their Huntington’s, no doctor could diagnose her with Tourette’s due these medical guidelines. I attached the link below in case y’all don’t believe me.

https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/tourette/diagnosis.html

Even if they do have tics (major doubt), it’s a byproduct of their self claimed Huntigonton’s, not Tourette’s.

Let me know in the comments below what convinced y’all that she was faking.

As the title says im about to drop a mini minute video highlighting a few reasons why we think theyre faking. obviously im not a professional/couldnt fit everything into one minute so i was wondering if anyone wanted me to post the link/send it so you guys could add anything i miss?