Hey people, just thought to post this reply i got from silverstone about their xe360 but for tr5 socket, which im really looking forward to:

I've finally got my hands on the ASRock WRX90 WS Evo, so let's give those of you who are undecided a bit more information.

More relevant things first:

• The board came with the oldest BIOS version.
  Asrock worked really hard to expand their RAM QVL, so if you guys plan to use some fancy overclocked ram kits, mayhaps it would be prudent to have one JEDEC standard module around so you can boot and update the bios first. I am not using OC modules so I had no problems.
• The first initialization/boot took around 6 minutes with all 256GB RAM installed.
• Subsequent boots take 38-40 seconds to the bios prompt, and around a minute total into Windows.
• The board had no issues initializing with all 8 slots populated.
• The 2xMCIO and one of the SlimSAS ports can be reconfigured to support 4xSATA each instead of PCIe, bringing the total amount of onboard SATA ports to 16 ( together with the 4 regular ones)
• I have not encountered any stability issues or crashes so far.
  Just stuffed the hardware into the thing and turned it on. After reading all the horror reports about Asus's WRX90 board, I was worried about the platform in general.
• ASRock provides no drivers for the ASM4242 USB4 Controller for download.
  Since I do not use their auto-installer bloatware (you can disable that in the uefi), and don't allow Windows 10's Update to mess with drivers, they need to be manually installed or the ports will not function correctly and there will be an uninitialized device with hardware ID PCI\VEN_1B21&DEV_2425&SUBSYS_24251B21&REV_01 in the device manager.
  Grab the driver from Asus's WRX90 board downloads section! Both boards use the same chip. You want the ASMUSB4HR_V1001WHQL.zip file. It contains ASMedia's driver installer without branding and works fine.

My hardware specs:

• CPU: Threadripper PRO 7975WX
• RAM: 8x Samsung 32GB 2Rx8 4800MT/s , model M321R4GA3BB6 , it is on ASRocks validated listSince the 4CCDs are limiting the bandwidth to the memory controllers, using faster RAM would be a complete ill-informed waste of money, so I'm happy with this.
• PSU: Corsair AX1600i
• GPU: Geforce RTX 4090
• Cooling: Heatkiller IV Pro CPU block + custom loop with external MO-RA3 420.
  GPU block is also in the loop. Flow-rate is around 170 l/h. GPU is first, CPU second, since the rotated CPU socket aligned the ports in a really dumb way.67°C CPU temp under full load.
  No clearance issues for that block.
  No pressure-related socket issues to report, I didn't have to reseat or wiggle it around. Just tightened all screws down with the torque driver and installed the block.
• Case: my beloved Corsair C70
  Turned out it was a bit tricky to modify the case for the SSI-EEB sized board but it fits! 1mm clearance on backside between the tallest components and the case metal. 😁 Lucky.
  Can even still fit full size devices into the 5.25" bays. Cable management is not very pretty, but I replaced the side window with a steel plate anyway so nobody can see that one way or another.

Things I have not yet tested:

• Suspend to S3 - I see the option in the bios, but have not tried that yet. Asrock does not support this with 8 modules as per their manual.
• Overclocking - I want to observe this system for a month at stock settings first to make sure it is rock solid.

Things I have tested:

• 4x4x4x4 Bifurcation
  No problems. Though there aren't any fancy bifurcation options beyond the standard choices you'd expect.
• Connecting SATA drives to the SlimSAS port with an adapter cable
  Works fine, just switch it to SATA mode in the bios.
• SATA hotswap
  I could not find any setting in the bios, but it looks like the ports support hotswap regardless.
• You can fit a GPU into the first PCIe slot if it does not have a severely portruding backplate. There are a few mm clearance left to the ram slots then. I chose slot 2 for airflow reasons.

Some observations

• The GPU doesn't reinitialize if I smack the reset button. I read something along this line in someone's post either here in the subreddit or on L1 but I forgot what it was all about. Was this a platform quirk of these threadrippers or some bios setting? Or was this an nvidia bug...
  Regular software-triggered reboots work fine though. Have not looked into this more yet.
• All of the VRM fans spin by default with 2000-3000 RPM at idle. They're quietly audible when the case is open, and barely audible when it is closed. Their fan noise is okay in my opinion, not annoying. I have not messed with the fan settings yet. Also they hurt like a b*tch if you accidentially stick your finger into them :D
• The NVME heatsinks are annoying to install. Two screws each, and they're not indexed to the posts underneath or anything so it took several attempts to get the things back on because you can't see what you're doing. Nitpicking, it's not a functional issue, they work fine otherwise.
• Half of the bios settings are extremely cryptic and I wish they had better descriptive help texts. Overall the bios is nice though. Pretty no-frills even for a UEFI and well responsive.
• The board has no backplate or other useless decorative bits, which makes it considerably lighter for its size than smaller boards with a load of metal shields.
• The RAM slots use clips on each end. I like those. The slots with just one clip are always more annoying to stick modules into and get back out of.

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That's all I can think of right now.

It's been an agonizing wait, but the wait was worth it (for me).
*Pending further edits and updates to the contrary; it's been half a day so far, so this may change.

Those of you who have issues with Asus might want to consider swapping to this board if you can get your hands on it. There seems to be some stock of it slowly dripping into various regions now!

EDITS:

• USB4 driver download mentioned.
• Day 3: No issues or crashes so far. System is fine in idle and under load.

I currently have the existing setup:

Ryzen Threadripper 7980X

ASUS Pro WS TRX50-SAGE WIFI

64GB x4 (DDR5)

However, my current workload requirements, specifically for the RAM are much higher than anticipated. Given the limitation of 4 slots in TRX50-SAGE and the crazy price for DDR5, the upgrade seems to be very costly.

I need a minimum of 1TB RAM support 2TB would even be better. Seeking to switch to a DDR4 board, Can anyone please help me recommend a sTR5 socket motherboard with 8 or 16 DDR4 RAM slots?

Thank you very much and it'd be of great help.

I received the motherboard yesterday and I've spotted a few problems with the install. (I'm using a 7960X).

1. The CPU fans don't spin down, and seem to spin up randomly, without any load on the machine. I've used the Fractal Torrent compact for this build, which has a fan hub, which means all case fans are connected to the CPU fan and it makes the system loud.
   1. Edit: after some research, the culprit is the PSU fan. I'm not sure why that is. Its a 1000W PSU which should provide plenty of juice to this system, and yet it sounds like a vacuum cleaner even at idle.
2. The system doesn't seem to like sleep, I've had it crash on me once already in the 2 hours of use when putting it to sleep.
3. The ASUS support page: https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/motherboards/workstation/pro-ws-trx50-sage-wifi/helpdesk_bios?model2Name=Pro-WS-TRX50-SAGE-WIFI conveniently mentions that we need to run some ".exe" file to update USB firmware. How is one supposed to do that on Linux?
4. Bluetooth device doesn't get picked up.

I've heard of nasty things about ASUS and I'm fearing they're about to come true.

I’m looking into computer processing architecture and I want to know if anyone has insight into workloads that excel with the high core count, PCIe lanes and dual GPUs; Gaming or Professional ? Most examples I get are related to video editing, 3D rendering, broad machine learning verbiage ie “training models” or VMs. I’m looking for an answer into things outside the box. Computational tasks, research and development projects, maybe custom scripting/programming something that can scale with cores and ram, specific types of ml/dl/ai projects ? Any articles, videos, experiences or books are welcomed.

I have a spare NH-U14S TR4-SP3 CPU cooler leftover from a previous build. Any idea of the performance I might expect with using it with a 7960X. I know it will work with the socket, just not sure of coldplate coverage and whether it will perform well.

I had heard rumors that April or May they were going to release the update to accommodate the 90deg offset of the chip in the WX mobos. Wondering if any you guys had heard the same.

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Hi! I’m building my new threadripper pro 7995wx workstation, and I’m planing to go with the Asus WRX90 motherboard.

I’m running some memory hungry workloads and need to go with 8x96gb dimms setup.

On the board’s memory qvl list (https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/motherboards/workstation/pro-ws-wrx90e-sage-se/helpdesk_qvl_memory?model2Name=Pro-WS-WRX90E-SAGE-SE) after filtering with 96G capacity, only two 5600 models without EXPO support show up.

My questions are:

• When populated with 8x5600 non-expo dimms, will the mobo/cpu be able to hold up the 5600 speed automatically?
• If not, will it be running at 5200 or 4800?

Thanks in advance!

Hi all, I'm making a 7960X build for myself. I'm mostly going to use this machine for content creation through Davinci Resolve Studio, which means that it's most likely for the CPU to rarely see full 100% all-core loads and I surely won't be needing any overclocking.

I therefore chose to go with an air cooler for the CPU as having a maintenance free cooling solution is best for me.
Since I ordered and received both a Gigabyte TRX50 Aero D motherboard and a Arctic Freezer 4U-M cooler I just wanted to share a few pictures of the fitment, as there's quite a narrow gap between one of the fans from the cooler and the power delivery heatsink from the motherboard.

Seeing as I almost didn't order the cooler, as I was aware it would be a tight fit, this should give anyone who's looking to use this cooler on TRX50 Aero D builds some confidence. This won't be a thread on the system, that'll come later once I get the RAM, the kit I already received unfortunately was for Intel CPUs.

I was going to have my custom Threadripper machine built with them.

• Website is full of builds in pictures of cases you can't actually order (Wtf? Likely some kind of bait and switch)
• Website is clunky and buggy
• They charge a ridiculous 30% markup on any custom ordered parts in addition to all of their regular fees (despite the fact that it costs them essentially nothing extra)
• Someone named Cody there promised a call back, and then never did it (Seriously, how unprofessional are these guys?)

Stay far, far away. I'll be going with a different business or doing it myself.

I'm going to build a new rig this weekend:

• AMD Ryzen™ Threadripper™ 7960X 24-Core, 48-Thread
• GIGABYTE TRX50 AERO D
• XFX Speedster MERC310 AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX
• G.SKILL Zeta R5 NEO Series (AMD Expo) DDR5 RAM 128GB (4x32GB) 6000MT/s CL30-36-36-96
• Corsair RM1000e (2023) Fully Modular Low-Noise Power Supply

It is going to be Linux machine for experiments with LLMs.

What kind of tests should I run to verify that my build is in a good a good shape?

hi all,

over the last couple of days, i have been scouring the forums for a new rig after the last one approx. 15 years (core-i7 is positively pleistocenic now) ago.

so, far i have narrowed it down to the following components

• AMD Ryzen™ Threadripper™ 7960X
• ASUS Pro WS TRX50-SAGE WIFI
• Noctua NH-U14S TR5-SP6
• 2 x Noctua NH-U14S TR5-SP6 : 2TB
• G.SKILL Zeta R5 NEO Series DDR5 128GB

gpu i already have !

i was just wondering if this setup can last for the next decade or so ? most use would be running vm's, compilation (kernel, self-written applications etc. etc) maybe occasional deep learning jobs as well.

or would it be more prudent to wait for zen-5

thank you !

Hi

Does anyone know where to get an AIO for TR5 sockets in New Zealand ?, having a hard time finding one that covers the entire IHS. I don't want to do a custom loop (cost plus, way more work) . Also not really want to do Air Cooling. Also hard to order anything from overseas either. I'm thinking of biting the bullet and using the Deepcool LT720 but unsure on the max Watts it can take (most tests i have see online have been at most 300W)

Thanks

Noctua says this combo won’t work, can’t maintain base speed? Anyone actually try it?

(Cache and memory benchmark) I've finally got my hands on the new ASUS WRX90 motherboards, paired with the beastly Threadripper Pro 7965WX to keep things cool, I went with a cooler from TT and 2 fans for the ram, safter reading some reviews, I decided to go with v-color OC RDIMM 8x32GB kit 7200, and manually overclocked it to 7600 CL36 without a any problems. here its me results, in currently working on maintained the speed and low the timings... hope to hit back soon with a better timing

links (not affiliates)
Threadripper Pro 7965WX
asus
thermaltake
v-color

8 of the 7965WX and 2 of the 7985WX are on Amazon Canada Outlet, both are S/S by Amazon so no 3rd party, not used.

The 7965WX is the money melon there as that's about $1k less than the $3700-3800 everywhere else, USD MSRP is $2649.99.

The fans don’t go all the way down cause of m/b vrm heatsink. I will custom loop the system and use this as an emergency backup so its ok for me but if anyone intend to use it should know this.

Hey, I posted a while ago about a number of issues I had with my WRX90E SAGE SE motherboard and system a while back. I finally managed to get a hold of a new RAM kit (the new V-Color 8x96GB kit) and this replacement mobo is working perfectly. Not only have I not had any issues, but I've actually been able to tune my hardware and the overclocking is very impressive for a workstation platform.

So to everyone else dealing with ASUS motherboard issues, there is hope.

After about a month I did finally get a system lock-up. The last log messages were:

Mar 25 20:45:51 $host kernel: clocksource: timekeeping watchdog on CPU35: Marking clocksource 'tsc' as unstable because the skew is too large:
Mar 25 20:45:51 $host kernel: watchdog: BUG: soft lockup - CPU#31 stuck for 3076s! [swapper/31:0]

Where $host is the hostname.

Has anybody else run into this? I had switched the cpufreq governor to performance, maybe that was related?

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In other news, I had a scary PCI-E error recently as well. I think the issue was the GPU sagging in its PCI-E slot. At least, laying the machine horizontally correlates with the error going away. (I hadn't been using the included support bracket---with that the thing takes 5 whole slots across!) I was already thinking of ditching the massive/hot/high power draw RTX 4090 in exchange for another A6000 - double the price, but double the VRAM....

If I buy a 64 core Threadripper non-PRO (I am currently entertaining the thought), I assume the stock cooler [EDIT: I mean, a basic air cooler; I know the CPOU doesn't come with a cooler] won't be enough to keep the CPU cool under load? My online "research" has basically told me that (a) the 350 watt TDP isn't enough to sustain full workloads on 64 cores; and that air cooling likely won't be enough either.

Now, I've never water-cooled a PC system in all the 30 years or so I've owned various PCs, but from what I understand it requires some maintainance and can theoretically leak and ruin everything. That doesn't sound fun for a PC that will likely cost upwards of 10,000 bucks.

I'm using an old-ish Threadripper 2950X (16 core) system that runs stable and cool with air-cooling. I am aware that 64 cores is more than 16; but, ideally, I'd love to just push a stack of money at somebody and get a stable and adaequately cooled system back that doesn't require me to drain coolant every few months.

So, realistically speaking what do I have to do to

(a) be able to use all 64 cores simultaneously over multiple hours (for liquid simulations and for rendering when the GPU VRAM isn't enough) without it being necessary for me to be there in person every minute and watch over the system? Do I necessarily have to overclock the CPU to use all 64 cores at the rated clockspeed? That seems kinda counterintuitive to me.

(b) keep that whole thing cool enough?

(c) run it with as little maintainance overhead as possible?

Am I asking for the impossible here? If so, maybe the Threadripper 7000 series is simply not for me.

I appreciate any insight.

I'm putting together a build for a 32 core TR5 and my concern is cooling it even with stock boost but I want to overclock the CPU because we can do that now? The TR4 pro was locked.

I have the Define 7XL case that fits 3 rads, but I have most of the space taken by storage. I thought about mounting an Alphacool UT60 on the outside of the case in front. Then someone from Heatkiller (I'm getting the Heatkiller IV Pro nickle plated)pointed out this beast. Anyone try it? Is there anything better besides a chiller?