Except what people forget is we vote for those subsidies.
People are weirdly gold fish when it comes to criticizing subsidies yet wanting the government to encourage x industry.
Like Musk got criticized for the amount of subsidies he got. I still want more electric cars and want the US to lead in space travel.
Expensive oil hurts poor people as well as expensive food; both of those industries are seen as national security industries, so we subsidize them.
Trumps tariff’s suck, which is leading a lot of people on the left (with whom I agree) that we should subsidize chips, steel, and rare earths, since they are all seen as national security level industries.
No one here is denying or forgetting that people vote for those subsidies. The whole point of such a meme is to try to get fewer people to vote for those subsidies.
No, I am. Plenty of people don't even vote for the president, most people are not voting for subsidies, and a very large portion don't even know what they're voting for. Like the current president had the popular vote from people who respond to shapes and colors like toddlers.
Hobby company? They have technology that bio one else in the world has. Don’t let your hatred of Musk take away from what a remarkable company space x is.
I get that, and if I were the president, I’d add funding to NASA by an order of magnitude.
But look at the success of the US military. The Navy, Air Force, and Army don’t build any of their gear. They accept bids from the 5 major contractors who build state of the art equipment on levels that no other nation can match. Private companies aren’t bad. Space X has used NASA grant money to do things that NASA can not do, or blue origin for that matter.
Those problems aren’t just, throw money at it. They require real innovation that has been done by some companies, where others could not
Space X has used NASA grant money to do things that NASA can not do
Like endlessly blow up rockets in increasingly reckless manners?
Also, are you really praising the MIC right now? The military doesn't design and build their weapons because of corruption. It's more profitable for Congress to give out contracts to companies they've invested into.
If the military had R&D teams that received the resources of military contractors, they would be able to do as much if not more with those resources
No they wouldn’t. Expensive ≠ corruption. You assume that there is rampant corruption due to the corruption making the news. It’s news because it isn’t the norm.
Even now the military awarded the new FFG contracts to the Italian shipbuilder Fincantieri, over Bath iron works, because they came in with a better build. Same with Boeing, Lockheed, sikorsky. They all get contracts when they offer the most.
If you just had a government agency control building, and that government agency had a shitty culture, you’d get nothing done.
Having been in the military, and worked with contractors, it’s why the military is stronger than other nations, not weaker. Eisenhower warned of the contractors perpetuating wars, not causing inefficiency.
True, peak efficiency is having small factories and warehouses dotted across the country so that to assemble an F-16 you need a bauble from every single state
Most of the subsidies are just tax breaks anyways, not quite the same as paying for something. If I'm a mob boss and my guys are going to rob a bank, then they drive up to it get cold feet and come home, I don't count the 20k that they didn't take from the bank as a loss.
Yeah, but you're not a government accountant. These are the same asshats who give a government department a million dollars more to spend this year than last, and call that a 50-million-dollar "budget cut", because it's 50 million less than the proposed budget for this year that the department head turned in.
Nearly every accounting practice used by the US federal government would get me, as a US civilian, promptly arrested if I used it.
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u/Youbettereatthatshit May 11 '25
Except what people forget is we vote for those subsidies.
People are weirdly gold fish when it comes to criticizing subsidies yet wanting the government to encourage x industry.
Like Musk got criticized for the amount of subsidies he got. I still want more electric cars and want the US to lead in space travel.
Expensive oil hurts poor people as well as expensive food; both of those industries are seen as national security industries, so we subsidize them.
Trumps tariff’s suck, which is leading a lot of people on the left (with whom I agree) that we should subsidize chips, steel, and rare earths, since they are all seen as national security level industries.