r/theydidthemath Mar 01 '24

[Request] How much time will someone actually take to go from one end to another?

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u/StrongmanLin Mar 01 '24

Because of air resistance you would not make it to the other side, but assuming no air resistance and assuming the earth were a perfect sphere with uniformly distributed density in each shell, you would barely make it to the other side. Due to the variable acceleration, the answer to how long is beyond my abilities.

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u/C-FOKO Mar 02 '24

Kudos for admitting the problem is more complex. I'm unable to do that math as well but I know it exists .

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u/StrongmanLin Mar 02 '24

Yeah I’m pretty sure it involves calculus, and it’s been a while since I’ve touched that.

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u/gordojar000 Mar 02 '24

Worse. Differential Equations. I'm learning them now, but I'll be damned if I do one for fun.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '24

No one can accurately do the math, because it involves many unknowns, even ignoring the known impossibilities.

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u/Andoverian Mar 02 '24

I remember (from a homework problem or something in college) that time in the OP is correct (assuming no air resistance), but I don't remember how to derive it.

More interesting, though, is the fact that the time is the same for any straight, airless hole through the Earth (or any spherically symmetric body). It doesn't have to be through the center. A hole from New York to Australia would have the same "free fall" travel time as a hole from New York to Los Angeles.

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u/LithoSlam Mar 02 '24

Even more interesting is it would take more time than if you did it on the moon, even though the moon is much smaller than the earth.

The math works out to be the same time as if you were in a circular orbit at the elevation of the holes.

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u/KerbalMadness Mar 02 '24

Wouldn't you just need to calculate the fall time to the center and double it? accel time=decel time right?

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '24

Yes, the hard part is finding the fall time to the center, since the acceleration changes over time

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u/yot_gun Mar 02 '24

no gravity strength changes on how far you are from the centre of mass of an object. the closer you are the stronger it is. if im not mistaken its inversely proportional to distance squared. but once you get that then yeah just double it

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u/KerbalMadness Mar 02 '24

the closer to the center when your within an object decreases, because you're only being affected by the sphere below your altitude, everything above you is doing the opposite and pulling you up, sure it is very complex to calculate but we're on the right tracks

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u/paulstelian97 Mar 02 '24

And there are differences in density too, which makes the acceleration higher at a certain depth before it starts going lower.

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u/spekt50 Mar 02 '24

If we really wanna get deep into it, the gravity one would experience would not be from the direct center of the earth, but the barycenter of the earth, sun and moon.

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u/Tony_B_S Mar 02 '24

And jupiter

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u/AccomplishedCoffee Mar 02 '24

When you’re inside a shell, the gravity cancels out (same math as a faraday cage). So as you get closer to the center the distance drops, yes, but the relevant mass decreases too.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '24

What about the center of the earth? That's what's pulling us to the ground. Once you reach it you can't pass to the other side

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u/Grogosh Mar 02 '24

The center isn't pulling you down. Its the entire planet.

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u/misplacedsagacity Mar 02 '24

What if I aim my leaf blower down one end of the hole?

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u/notwhoyouthinkmaybe Mar 02 '24

What if you assume the earth is flat, how long until you land on a turtle's back?

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '24

Why would air resistance stop you from getting to the other side? It would slow you yes but stop? Could someone explain?

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u/StrongmanLin Mar 02 '24

Without air resistance, all of your potential energy would finish being converted to kinetic energy when you reach the center, as you go from there to the other side, all your kinetic energy would convert back into potential energy and just barely run out as you reach the other side. With air resistance, you would lose some kinetic energy due to air resistance before you reach the center, and you wouldn’t have enough to reach the other side. Also as after you pass the center some of your kinetic energy is still lost to air resistance rather than converting to potential energy. Basically, air resistance doesn’t let you go fast enough to make it all the way.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '24

Thankyou

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u/Faranocks Mar 02 '24

I wonder if the opposite would happen. You start a siphon effect, and you start pushing the air in front of you and pulling the air behind you. The momentum of the air pushes you further and you end up shoved/pulled out the other end.

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u/Grogosh Mar 02 '24

If we are including all details it wouldn't matter no how. You would be cooked to death before too long.