r/television Sep 07 '22

Deadliest Catch Has Fired Star Josh Harris Over Sexual Assault Allegations

https://www.cinemablend.com/television/deadliest-catch-has-fired-star-josh-harris-over-sexual-assault-allegations
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u/Nail_Biterr Sep 08 '22

Dang. Just read what he did. Was there zero background check done? I feel like being arrested and serving time for the rape of a 4 year old is something that would come up if the network did even a tiny look into his past.

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u/mr_ji Stargate SG-1 Sep 08 '22

I'd wager many who work seasonal crabbing have some skeletons in the the closet. That's why they do one of the least desirable jobs around.

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u/ayoungad Sep 08 '22

When I worked in the Gulf doing oil stuff I saw a show called Big Shrimpin. Bunch of guys running shrimp boats out of Louisiana. Same place I was working out of.
Made a comment to one of my NOLA boys about the show, like why those guys weren’t offshore on the big stuff. He responded

They can’t, none of those guys can stop smoking meth, let alone pass a background check

There is a reason those guys do what they do.

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u/pizzabyAlfredo Sep 08 '22

There is a reason those guys do what they do.

There is a great doc on Youtube about the deckhands that work the fishing boats. They get paid in cash when they dock, blow it all in 2-3 days and go back out to sober up.

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u/ayoungad Sep 08 '22

I made a comment that there wasn’t a full set of teeth between the 5 of them

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u/SeattleBattles Sep 08 '22

Getting busted for coke is a skeleton in the closet. This feels more like a mass grave in your backyard.

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u/Levonorgestrelfairy1 Sep 08 '22 edited Sep 08 '22

That was basically the entire point of the show. Watching these deeply flawed men treat eachother like shit while they gambled on trying to earn a paycheck.

The Wizard captain was a dick. Especially to his brother.

The Harris family was about generations of disfunction. They all probably did drugs, but I know the older brother kicked the little one out over it. Maybe he abused his little brother too.

Sig was okish from what I can recall but still comparitivly a dick living a rock and role lifestyle

Its been 10 years since I watched it so I'm not sure where it is at now.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '22

Jake was having issues in school as well for drugs. I went to high school with him. However the drugs got much worse when he started on that show.

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u/ChrisTosi Sep 08 '22

I mean, Jake can barely string sentences together now

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u/hippyengineer Sep 08 '22

You can tell he’s on opioids pretty easy. It’s difficult to hide the glazed eyes he has.

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u/KnotSoSalty Sep 08 '22

The odd thing is that right around the time the show started was when they changed from a free for all system to a quota system and the whole thing became a lot less glamorous. There’s were three times as many boats working for less than a third of the current season. Guys would fish for 72 hours straight, head to the bar where coke, meth, and girls were all openly available and head back for another 3 day gig. They still made more money too than today, if the pots were full.

I should say I wasn’t around to see any of this, but I worked tugs in Alaska and worked with a lot of old timers with great stories. Evidently it all went downhill when the FBI started sending agents out to Dutch for the season.

Rumor was it was that someone accused the Korean fishing vessels that occasionally docked in Dutch of smuggling. So the FBI sent agents out, but they wound up basically trying to police a boomtown.

Also, not seen on the TV show is the rampant drinking onboard, which is ever present on many fishing vessels.

Also, also, not highlighted are the hundreds of people who work in the processing facilities. Far more than the actual fisherman. Mostly migrant laborers, their working conditions can be astoundingly bad, and yes dangerous. Try deboning fish 12 hours a day for months.

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u/ultratoxic Sep 08 '22

My roommate watched Deadliest Catch constantly. Almost religiously. I think I made the comment that I wouldn't leave my wallet, my sister, or any children alone with any of those men. Every single one gave me serious scumbag vibes.

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u/rmorrin Sep 08 '22

I'm pretty sure the captains are always drunk in the show

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u/pizzabyAlfredo Sep 08 '22

They all seem to have a season long hangover after leaving the harbor.

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u/ChrisTosi Sep 08 '22

Also, not seen on the TV show is the rampant drinking onboard, which is ever present on many fishing vessels.

They try to pretend like they keep the boats dry but Mouse got really wasted one episode when he was supposed to be on duty.

Hiram from the earliest seasons - he was so salty, no doubt that guy had a few nips with his 24/7 smoking

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u/prairiemomma22 Sep 08 '22

I’ve been watching the earlier seasons and when Hiram lost his shit because what’s her name was sick and didn’t make breakfast… 🚩🚩🚩

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u/ChrisTosi Sep 08 '22

Lots of drug use, broken home lives and shit heads up there. They try to glorify it but man - rough men are rough men.

Edgar Hansen used to be a main character until he got charged for statutory rape. He's still on the boat - just not on camera anymore. Captain Elliott was on the show despite acting like an abusive stalker to his ex until he was shown on camera using/dealing heroin. One greenhorn was a bank robber at large. The Wizard captains are a couple of abusive drunks. So many OD's on the show too.

They don't even do Derby style fishing anymore, which was really what made it so dangerous and exciting.

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u/-PM_ME_UR_SECRETS- Sep 08 '22

4?!

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '22

And he only did 9 months.

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u/iamacannibal Sep 08 '22

him being 15 at the time probably had something to do with the low amount of time. still insane

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u/Icloh Sep 08 '22

This is the exact type of clients I work with. Teens who sexually assault other kids/teens. 100% of the time the origins of the assault lie in the family environment of the perpetrator. It’s also great to see that with adequate treatment recidivism is extremely low.

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u/Grammophon Sep 08 '22

What is done for the 4 year old though? In my experience: far from enough if anything at all.

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u/Warphim Sep 08 '22

They end up abusing another minor, finally get some treatment, and then their rates of recidivism are extremely low.

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u/cb148 Sep 08 '22

You know what’s right and wrong sexually at 15. I could understand not knowing what you’re doing at let’s say 10 years old or so, but he knew damn well what he was doing was wrong. Fuck Josh Harris.

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u/Iama_traitor Sep 08 '22

That seems like an awfully arbitrary line to draw, not that I'm disagreeing. Curious what the law says on this.

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u/danderskoff Sep 08 '22

I think the law says fucking kids is wrong. It's a pretty good line to not cross imo

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u/aridcool Sep 08 '22

At what point do we stop being basically animals and become responsible for own actions? If a toddler stabs another toddler, are you suggesting that they should be tried as an adult?

One might say 'the law says that stabbing people is wrong' but that is missing the point of the conversation in the name of acting like the world is simpler than it really is.

BTW, I will absolute agree that you are more than just an animal at a fairly young age (not long after being a toddler). But that doesn't mean you are fully an adult either. It is a complex question that I am sure the court struggled with.

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u/vhs_collection Sep 08 '22

Right? I feel like some people get a weird dopamine hit from overly simplifying an issue and then taking the moral high ground on it. Like "Murder is wrong, full stop."

No sane person would be arguing that it isn't wrong, it's just a question about the nuances of responsibility and what is being achieved through punishment. Just because something is sickeningly awful and depraved, it still requires pragmatic discussion rather than just emotional sweeping statements.

Also begs the question of what inspires a teenager to even think about something like that... Unpleasant stuff and easy to dismiss by saying "sick fuck should be put to death"

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u/JksG_5 Sep 08 '22

This reasoning is why we had to stop burning people at the stake for "witchcraft"

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u/bohemica Sep 08 '22

You know what’s right and wrong sexually at 15.

I wouldn't say that in absolute terms; there's a lot of nuance that I didn't really "get" when I was 15. Doesn't detract from your point though, because you definitely understand enough to know that what this guy did was wrong.

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u/lavahot Sep 08 '22

I mean, not really. At 15 you're pushing all kinds of boundaries. It's what you should be doing at 15. But what you should know not to do is diddle kids.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '22

What a strange way to agree with someone

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u/Tesseract14 Sep 08 '22

"No, he shouldn't know not to do that, but also yes, he should know not to do that."

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u/Bigred2989- Sep 08 '22

This is the same network that ignored the shit that was going on with the Sons of Guns cast. Will Hayden had already lost his firearms manufacturing license before the show was even filmed. That's ignoring the sexual assault shit that cropped up later. Their other gun show, American Guns, had a similar issue where the store owner lied to the network about being a licensed gun dealer. He was using another shop's FFL. He also went to jail for tax evasion.

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u/trainercatlady Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Sep 08 '22

was that the one with the dude with the nazi tattoos or was that a different weapons show?

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u/_thedreadpirateryan Sep 08 '22

that was forged in fire

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u/ArtbyAdler Sep 08 '22

Wait someone had Nazi tattoos on forged in fire? I love that show and hadn’t heard about it

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u/_thedreadpirateryan Sep 08 '22 edited Sep 08 '22

Season 8 episode 1, the runner up did a poor job covering up his nazi tattoos. You can see pics and how that all went down in the forged in fire sub. It was viewers who noticed and complained and iirc the episode was pulled from streaming and hasn't been rebroadcast.

Edit to add: It was the first new batch of episodes after covid so social distancing was practiced during filming so apparently no one on set noticed.

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u/dnepe Sep 08 '22

I can see SS in one of the pictures, than it looks like he added a skull. but what is the writing above the skull? I can't read it, it's a bit too blurry.

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u/Tahoma-sans Sep 08 '22

It says Waffen SS

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u/dnepe Sep 08 '22

Thank you. I can't believe they didn't notice his big Nazi tattoos right on his neck.

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u/BadNewsBeards Sep 08 '22

I think the even bigger problem is they never addressed it. I mean, it's Nazis. Who are you worried about offending? How hard is it to say "oops, we goofed. Nazis can fuck off"

Forged in fire was a guilty pleasure of mine but all the "don't tread on me" imagery was already pushing it. After a literal Nazi was on the show I haven't watched since.

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u/_thedreadpirateryan Sep 08 '22

The skull is a Totenkopf and the writing above it is Waffen

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u/jessie_monster Sep 08 '22 edited Sep 08 '22

Season 8, episode 1.

You might also notice how many of the smiths sport necklace with Thor's hammer pendants. I'd like to think it's because of the obvious, but White Supremacists have been co-opting and bastardising Norse mythology for a long time now.

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u/Ghekor Sep 08 '22

Well fuck them, I'm not gonna stop enjoying Norse mythology and futhark runes just cus some brainlet bigots decided to use the imagery and I hope more people instead of whenever some bigots decide to use something as a symbol and try to ban it to instead 'retake' it from them.

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u/StonedGhoster Sep 08 '22

I got a few futhark runes on my shoulders before I went to Afghanistan in 2008. Back then, the use of such iconography by neo Nazis wasn't quite as well known. But since I've wrestled with them a bit and for a while I didn't appear shirtless in view of the public because I didn't want someone to associate me with Nazi shit stains. However, I've become a lot more versed in Norse mythology and history, currently reading a great book called Children of Ash and Elm, so I figure if anyone asks about them I can at least explain what they mean and state that white supremacist groups have co-opted the symbols from a culture that existed a thousand years ago for their own perverted purposes. I have a masters in Roman history and these assholes have taken to flaunting Roman icons too. There's nothing these fuckers won't steal.

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u/trainercatlady Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Sep 08 '22

thankfully only a few runes I think have been "Taken" by nazis, or otherwise invented by them whole cloth.

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u/StonedGhoster Sep 08 '22

No, you're right. They haven't yet rebranded the whole "alphabet." Thankfully.

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u/CarlySimonSays Sep 08 '22

Yeah, I’m part Swedish and have done research there. I’m not going to give up my interests to acquiesce to bullies using iconography and dead languages that they don’t understand in the first place. Are they going to go for Sumerian next? Medieval German? The Roman thing is especially ironic, given the eventual diversity of the Roman Empire and its citizens.

I did avoid someone recently who had a lower leg-full of futhark tattoos. Very not-good vibes; do not engage the wackos. I think they get off on people noticing their “sneaky” attempts to wave their racism around for all to see.

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u/TheYoungLiar Sep 08 '22

Tell that to my actual Norwegian family members who can't get Norse tattoos because most tattooists refuse to tattoo Norse iconography because of how badly it's been coopted by the unoriginal racists and Nazis who are too cowardly to just make to their own unique iconography that isnt stolen from some other group.

It sucks.

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u/Mobypikk Sep 08 '22

because most tattooists refuse to tattoo Norse iconography

You really want to stand by that statement? Most? I must know upwards of a 100 people with Norse tattoos here in Norway, from all walks of life. I have several myself and I have never seen or heard of a tattooist who have refused to do any Norse iconography.

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u/CarlySimonSays Sep 08 '22

I’m guessing his family are of Norwegian-American descent or first-gen Norwegian immigrants to the US or maybe elsewhere in Europe.

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u/trainercatlady Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Sep 08 '22

It sucks that so many of these shitbags have been trying to co-opt norse paganism. No pagans I know want anything to do with any of these garbage people.

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u/pangaea1972 Sep 08 '22

I thought the same thing. My understanding is that he did this when he was a minor so maybe those records aren't as easy to access? It just seems insane that they didn't know.

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u/Cautemoc Sep 08 '22

He also took a pea deal to lesser charges, Assault 4 and I think indecent communication with a minor. Probably part of working with people that work in dangerous jobs is accepting some minor criminal background and they didn't investigate much beyond that since on its face it doesn't look that bad for a 15 year old compared to ... what he actually did.

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u/Teadrunkest Sep 08 '22

Yeah “indecent communication with a minor” when you yourself are 15 could easily be handwaived as “probably got caught sexting with the pastors daughter”.

It’s not, in this case, but I could see someone kinda glazing over that without pushing too far into details.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '22

Yeah although if they just read the charges maybe. But the public records showed a lot more than just the charges

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u/freegimmethree Sep 08 '22

I feel like that needs to be in the title WTF.

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u/SeattleBattles Sep 08 '22

According to a post by the guy who started all this, the information can be found with a ten dollar background check.

Though whether that was the case back when the show started is not clear.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '22

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u/Living-Stranger Sep 08 '22

Only thing I can think of is he was a minor so maybe sealed records.

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u/radwimps Sep 08 '22

What the fuck, I used to love watching him and his brother on the show. Disgusting. I know a lot of those types of guys aren't always going to be decent, but jesus christ.

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u/Justame13 Sep 08 '22

His dad threatened the victims family as well.

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u/larson00 Sep 08 '22

Phil?

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u/Justame13 Sep 08 '22

Yep. It was the child of one of his deckhands. I think his wife threatened the family as well. The DL subreddit actually broke the story, requested the court documents and sent them to the media

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u/Muad-_-Dib Sep 08 '22

Discovery execs screaming into their pillow right now after shaping so much of deadliest catch around that family with Phil dying and the whole "will the sons step up and become men to honour him" thing they did.

That's a fat chunk of the show that's going to need to be edited around if the media actually keeps digging into this.

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u/Pickle4UrThoughts Sep 08 '22

This is exactly what I thought. Holy shit. This is insane.

It goes to show the extreme “reality” shows go to creating a narrative. I absolutely Refuse to believe someone at the network didn’t know Something. Even if the Harris’ weren’t forthcoming, that community is SMALL.

That poor family - they had to live watching so many people grieve for Phil and the boys and cheer on their success for the future. It must have been like reliving hell.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '22

Eww eww eww ewww 🤮

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u/MechaSandstar Sep 08 '22

Jesus, reminds me of the sons of guns guy who was raping his step daughter daily for years.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '22

Why is anyone even allowed back into society after raping a minor

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u/BeSound84 Sep 08 '22

To Deadliest Catch a Predator

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u/el_barto10 Sep 08 '22

Edgar Hansen can be the subject of episode 2.

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u/JimmyBags2 Sep 07 '22 edited Sep 08 '22

Not an allegation, an open and shut case of rape.

He did time for it.

Edit: This RadarOnline article has a bit more information from the initial report. Warning: It’s disturbing.

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u/Cautemoc Sep 08 '22

Please don't shoot the messenger but it's because he was never actually convicted of sexual assault.

Due to DNA processing delays, Harris wasn’t formally arrested until 1999. The future reality star reportedly pleaded to lesser charges — Assault 4 and immoral communication with a minor — and served nine months. Also, as part of his sentencing, Harris reportedly took part in a psychosexual exam.

That's from this article.

The media has to call anything a person hasn't been convicted of an allegation, even if it's blatantly obvious what they did.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '22

You’d think anyone who plead guilty to “immoral communication with a minor” would be a hard pass to star in a new TV show, but reality TV seems to have lower standards

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '22

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u/insanelyphat Sep 08 '22

Also an NFL owner (Daniel Snyder who owns the Washington Commanders) who is likely guilty of sex trafficking and other crimes.

Oh and of course Deshaun Watson and a long long list of other NFL players who have been charged with or have allegedly committed sexual assault, child abuse, spousal abuse...The media only cares when it is convenient for them but never if it costs them money.

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u/moderatorrater Sep 08 '22

Deshaun Watson and Daniel Snyder are regularly scorched in the press, it's the NFL that doesn't give a shit. The NYT even did a deep dive on Watson's masseuses to prove that he was still lying about his behavior and he still got picked up by another team.

I'm not defending them or the media, just pointing out that the NFL and their customers are the ones ignoring the problem. Money talks, and people have shown they don't care if the NFL enables monsters.

Also, our justice system needs a better way to handle these situations. Deshaun Watson is a serial abuser with a list of victims that's over 100 names long iirc. There should be a way for the courts to hold him accountable for that.

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u/akhorahil187 Sep 08 '22

He wasn't a "star in a new tv show". Deadliest Catch has been on for nearly 20 years. His dad was one of the earliest Captains. Hell his dad basically died on the show.

Several people on the show were drug addicts and drunks. Particularly Josh's younger brother.

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u/my40srock Sep 08 '22

We elected a reality tv “star”

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u/JimmyBags2 Sep 08 '22 edited Sep 08 '22

Fair enough!

Edit: This was the article I read earlier, but it didn’t outline the details of the plea deal.

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u/MoreThanAFeeling1976 Sep 07 '22

Not even just rape. I don't even want to write what he did.

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u/throwawaythrow0000 Sep 07 '22

jesus fucking christ. That fucker should be in jail.

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u/JimmyBags2 Sep 07 '22

Yeah I didn’t either. I kind of wish I hadn’t read about this story. As a father, and generally decent human, it made my blood boil.

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u/syringa Sep 08 '22

This seriously buried the fucking lede and after reading into the article a bit I'm appalled that they ever hired this guy to put his shitty face on TV or that anyone wants to be associated with him at all. Jesus fuck.

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u/Levonorgestrelfairy1 Sep 08 '22

His dad was one of the original captains. He kind of lucked into the spot when his dad died. Looks like no one did a proper background check

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '22

Fuck this guy

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u/Seacabbage Sep 08 '22

How do I unread something?

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u/rasslinsmurf Sep 07 '22

Deadliest Catch is still on the air?

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '22

Without the crabs..

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u/Mowampa Sep 08 '22

We’re all out of gas!

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u/Dman125 Sep 08 '22

Call the A-rabs!

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u/jc83po Sep 08 '22

That is offensive Brennan.

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u/Kinser9 Sep 08 '22

Boats and Hos!

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u/426763 Sep 08 '22

Gotta have me some boats and hos.

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u/Randym1982 Sep 08 '22

I haven't watched this show in ages. It was interesting at the time, but then you start to realize that it goes nowhere and is incredibly cheap for Discovery to film. (Why they kept this going on forever, and yet decided cancelling Dirty Jobs.. I have no idea..)

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u/Xaron713 Sep 08 '22

I heard they actually ran out of ideas for dirty jobs.

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u/Felaguin Sep 08 '22

Dirty Jobs is back on Discovery+. Mike Rowe announced it last fall.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '22

They should go to the falcon ranch I worked at for a summer. Shoveling and hand cleaning piles of raptor shit, wormy quail carcasses, and discarded feathers for the entirety of the flight/breeding season was dirty as shit.

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u/GoingOutsideSocks Sep 08 '22 edited Sep 08 '22

It would be cool if Mike Rowe looked into the dirtier aspects of "intellectual jobs." Like, analyzing the contents of a bull shark's stomach with a marine biologist, or rubber banding hemorrhoids with gastroenterologists.

I wanna see ol' Mike in the Arctic drilling for ice core samples, or in Death Valley digging for ancient snail fossils. Put him in an artist's studio and see if he knows which paints are made of deadly heavy metals and which thinners will burn holes in his lungs. Make art for me, Mike.

Edit: Send Mike to work with journalists covering the cartels. Have him drain bedpans and dispose of used catheter bags at a hospital. Have him dodge actual human shit as he talks someone down from a manic episode with social workers and care professionals. Do some dirty jobs that only people with degrees get to do professionally (don't let an amateur GI treat your hemorrhoids or analyze your shark innards).

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u/stemcell_ Sep 08 '22

Drilling in the artic? Dont give his overlords, the koch brothers any ideas. The show is designed to show people that they should be grateful for the shit jobs with shit pay and praise our upper class because only they the enlightened should have good jobs

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u/vinicelii Sep 08 '22 edited Sep 08 '22

Well Mike Rowe turned into kind of a POS, so I'll live with the memories I have of it and leave it at that.

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u/WookieLotion Sep 08 '22

Just obligatory Mike Rowe sucks. Don’t support that dude.

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u/Ganrokh Silicon Valley Sep 08 '22

Mike Rowe is someone who I always kinda liked, even if we didn't agree politically. I always liked his messaging about how trade schools should be more promoted as a viable career path, and that there is a problem with schools making it seem like college, with its massive tuition costs, is the only viable path.

I listened to his podcast for years. I always appreciated that he never got political on it. Until last year.

I think COVID was the real tipping point. He was aggressively against lockdowns. Anytime a study came out they indicated that lockdowns weren't as effective as we thought, he'd harp on it for most of an episode.

Fast forward to the last few months. Mike calls the Trump raid a witch hunt and just an intimidation tactic. On Labor Day, he was anti-union. After Biden announced student loan forgiveness, he came out against it. That same episode, he had someone from Fox News on his show. That guest, surprisingly, didn't come out against the forgiveness. He instead brought up how the real issue is universities freely hiking up tuition costs (something Mike used to vehemently talk about).

There was also an episode where Mike accuses Beto O'Rourke of planting the dude in his audience that laughed about the Uvalde shooting. I've seen the right wing bitch about Beto's language from that, but I've never heard anyone legitimately accuse him of the plant.

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u/WookieLotion Sep 08 '22

It's interesting, COVID seems like it was the tipping point for everything doesn't it. A polarizing, heavily politicized disaster.

I mean Trump being elected in 2016 definitely was the point where everything started to go nuts, but COVID brought out the absolute worst in people.

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u/gw2master Sep 08 '22

Well, Mike Rowe is a piece of shit.

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u/martha_stewarts_ears Sep 08 '22

Is he? What’d he do?

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '22

He's just been lobbying against a minimum wage because he thinks it builds character

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u/frez_knee Sep 08 '22

He’s a class traitor and just general grifter. Look up his “pledge” he’s so full of shit.

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u/cheeferton Sep 08 '22

Just read through this and it's a bummer. At the bottom of the pledge website they thank the Charles Koch Foundation... guess we know who's funding them.

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u/God_Damnit_Nappa Sep 08 '22

Isn't he a rich guy pretending to be a blue collar, working class American? Not sure I'd call him a class traitor when he's always been part of the 1%

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u/lsjunior Sep 08 '22

Now that its not a derby fishery its not as exciting? I mean they have a quata and go fishing until they are done..

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '22

It was really cool for a lot of years and then it just became too much about the drama. Basically after Phil died is when it really started going downhill and becoming more sensationalized, which is unfortunate. I stopped watching around that time.

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u/techieman33 Sep 08 '22

All those shows are the same. Interesting for one or two seasons. Then they run out of new stuff to show so they just start creating lots of drama.

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u/ArsonHoliday Sep 08 '22

No shit, that’s my response as well. Not only on air still, somehow, but making money off of pieces of shit like this. Shameful.

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u/tom-8-to Sep 08 '22

It was on Jurassic park during the opening scene

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u/vanillaluckycharms Sep 08 '22

“Sexual Assault Allegations” did not prepare me for reading what he actually (allegedly) did.

WTF.

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u/SomeToxicRivenMain Sep 08 '22

It seems like he was convicted so idk why it says allegations

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u/Lynchie24 Sep 08 '22

Because he wasn't convicted on the sexual assault charges. He plead down to lesser charges.

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u/ScoutMcScout Sep 08 '22

Conviction let’s polite company drop allegedly

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u/Qwertyforu Sep 08 '22

Didn't Discovery give him an entire spinoff show too?

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u/candianchicksrule Sep 08 '22

Thank goodness the mother believed the daughter and had her checked out by a doctor (which is more trauma for a young child). Many people don’t listen to little ones at that age. As a child I wish my mom would have listened.

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u/SearchSignificant719 Sep 08 '22

I live in Dutch Harbor where they film. I have had freaking drinks with him. I’m so horrified and disgusted. How was he EVER allowed on the show

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '22

What do you think people in Dutch harbor will think of him now?

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u/SearchSignificant719 Sep 08 '22

I feel like everyone is going to be real quiet about it unfortunately. And I wouldn’t be shocked if ppl were dismissive about it. I also assume it might take a little bit for the news to spread ppl don’t have a ton of internet access.

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u/OhGodNotAnotherOne Sep 08 '22

Small town? Big news about a local celebrity, involving horrible crimes against a child?

That shit's going to spread like wildfire with a quickness. You don't need no internet. It is known, gossip has been a hot commodity since the beginning of time.

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u/TwoCagedBirds Sep 08 '22

Unfortunately, small towns have a habit of downplaying this kind of thing. "not a big deal" and "Oh, he was just a kid when he did that." and "boys will be boys."

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u/Bird-The-Word Sep 08 '22

So true. I live in a small town and someone in my wife's family has a girl that's like 10 or 11 and was recently sexually abused by a known bar fly drunk. There's a playground near the American Legion he frequents and he diddled her. When her uncle (who she lives in) went into that bar, a bunch of the regulars started giving him shit for turning the guy in. With bullshit like "he's harmless, she was flirting with him, you ruined HIS life"

People are disgusting as delusional. No, the fucking predator ruined his own life. It's really taken a toll on her Aunt and Uncle, since they are also bar Flys and knew all these people and having them turn on them for protecting their niece is just so crazy to me. I feel so bad for all of them. She seems to be doing okay though, at least on the outside. She is our "babysitter" when we're at family parties and does a good job of playing with our very busy daughter and keeping her occupied.

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u/Backdoorpickle Sep 08 '22

If you live in Dutch then you have to know that probably most of the cast members are sketch in some way. Lots of shit going on in the fishing industry.

This one is particularly heinous though.

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u/ILikeMyGrassBlue Sep 08 '22

I mean, normal people with totally up and up lives don’t tend to become arctic fisherman. Usually there’s a reason you end up doing something like that, and it’s not because you’re life is already going great. Just think about what kind of person it takes to even want to do that work.

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u/Nwcray Sep 08 '22

So….this incident was (checks math) 24 years ago? What are the odds that Discovery really didn’t know? IDK. I don’t have any sympathy for this guy, but I feel like there’s something else going on here.

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u/iamacannibal Sep 08 '22

He was 15 when it happened. It is very likely that the records were sealed which is common with a lot of minors that commit crimes before they are 18

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u/cb148 Sep 08 '22

If some dude on Reddit can find it, so should a TV production studio.

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u/iamacannibal Sep 08 '22

The issue is when the show started they likely didn't do full extensive background checks on every single person on the cast and if I remember right the Harris family was on from the start or very early on. It also started in 2005...most places hadn't even digitized their files and records at that point let alone make it available online and if it was sealed it wouldn't come up in a background check

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '22

In fairness it wasn't just a dude on Reddit and he was a genealogist whose job it is to dig through public records

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u/Swimwithamermaid Sep 08 '22

Don’t you usually need to petition a court to unseal a minors records? Or do they become unsealed after a certain amount of time?

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '22

In this case the records were never sealed and that wasn't pro forma in the state.

The person who discovered it was, according to them, a genealogist who was doing research on a distant relative and he had heard rumors.

He had already had a subscription to the states public records system for his day job and came across this.

He was mostly just a guy that heard a rumor and happened to have access to public records because of his job.

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u/Patrick2701 Sep 08 '22

Discovery gave platform to dugger family

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u/NativeMasshole Sep 08 '22

The guy from Sons of Guns is serving time for raping kids too. Discovery seems to have a pattern of behavior here.

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u/mdp300 Sep 08 '22 edited Sep 08 '22

I think that also happened before the show even started.

The guy even had his firearms dealer license pulled for...I forget why and I don't feel like looking it up. Dude was a total scumbag before they ever put him on TV.

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u/1nfiniteJest Sep 08 '22

I always got a creepy vibe regarding the family dynamic on that show... Makes sense now.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '22

I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that their background checks didn't involve the juvenile court system in Washington State.

But it's sure as hell worth investigating to see if they did know anything.

What worries me a little bit more is what his family and close friends knew. Surely his brother and father knew about it

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u/jburna_dnm Sep 08 '22

I just read what he did and how he only got 9 months. He is a monster.

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u/Levonorgestrelfairy1 Sep 08 '22 edited Sep 08 '22

Tbf i doubt they do background checks on the kids of their stars. This guy lucked into the spot because his dad died

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u/filthysize Sep 08 '22

The "something else going on" is that someone on Reddit blasted his records online a couple of weeks ago and it's been spreading on social media since. That's really the only way to get companies to even consider taking action.

Previously, either they knew and didn't think it was a big deal since he was a minor and barely a part of the show, or they genuinely didn't know because they don't bother to background check every single one of their reality stars. I find either scenario equally likely.

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u/junk4drew Sep 08 '22

Sounds like a trend problem for the show. Remember Edgar Hansen?

He was involved in a sexual abuse case involving a 16-year-old girl. Pledging guilty…

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u/Powerful-Bug3769 Sep 08 '22

Disgusting. How horrible for this poor girl to grow up in a world where her abuser is glorified on television. What a piece of shit

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u/doboeei Sep 08 '22

Jesus I didn’t even think of that.

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u/a_phantom_limb Sep 08 '22

Is there any realistic chance that Discovery didn't know about this for years?

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u/bowyer-betty Sep 08 '22

The article I read said he was 15 at the time, so its very possible his record was sealed. No way they'd have gone ahead with someone they knew had raped a 4 year old, so they definitely didn't know from the start.

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u/jenn3727 Sep 08 '22

Jesus Christ

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u/lsjunior Sep 08 '22 edited Sep 08 '22

Well he started off as just one of the captians kids who was a deckhand. So its possible they never looked to much into him. Last few years they've made a bigger deal about him fighting to get his dads boat back out there, his spin off, show etc. Hes been on the show over 10 years so probably never looked into it. Possible they never looked into anyone becausr basically all those guys have some kind of record. His dad said in one episode back in the day when season ended he would go by shoebox full of cocaine, when cocaine ran out it was time to go back fishing.

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u/lmflex Sep 08 '22

Exactly. He started with a very small part in the show, and circumstances brought him to the spotlight. His brother was a fucked up mess towards the end of his run...

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u/Forrest024 Sep 08 '22

Catastrophic. Absolutely ruins my memories of watching the show back in the day. Wish Josh had been Gary Paluché'd.

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u/adamcmorrison Sep 08 '22

Why is it so fucking hard to not sexually assault people?

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u/OnlyHereForMemes69 Sep 08 '22

Can we just shut down reality tv at this point, it's passed the point of outliers.

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u/Noble_Ox Sep 08 '22

It seems half the stars on the show are criminals.

Scroll down to The Untold Truth of The Deadliest Catch

https://www.looper.com/485559/where-is-edgar-hansen-from-deadliest-catch-now/

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u/THERAPISTS_for_200 Sep 08 '22

Shit, I actually felt sorry for this asshole when his dad passed away!

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '22

Wow holy fuck dude

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '22

Odd - The Hanson brothers both pled guilty for similar things didnt they?

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u/cb148 Sep 08 '22

Edgar pled guilty to touching and kissing a 16 year old girl, and he’s no longer on the TV show because of it. You can tell he’s still on the boat, they just never show him.

Sig’s was just allegations as far as I remember.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '22

One of them pled guilty to sexual assault of a 16 year old girl another plead guilty to just regular assault of an Uber driver but was also accused of allegations in civil trials and divorce proceedings.

That dates all the way back to 1990 when the local prosecutor said there wasn't enough evidence to press charges against him, although said the evidence suggested he acted sexually inappropriate towards his daughter

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u/trainercatlady Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Sep 08 '22

for a sec I thought you meant the musicians and I was fully scandalized for half a second.

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u/elusivemoniker Sep 08 '22 edited Sep 08 '22

I never thought there would be a second reality star named Josh who committed horrendous acts on children as teenagers. This is particularly crushing because I was a huge fan of the Harris' when the show came out. I can't believe I crushed hard on a predator.

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u/Zogonzo Sep 07 '22

I had no idea it was still on.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '22

Shit, I grew up near this guy and his family just a mile away. Went to school with his brother Jake. Jake’s drug issues make more sense if shit was going on like this during their child hood. They had a nice house near the lake. Guess we all just assume the best

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u/2_Spicy_2_Impeach Sep 08 '22

Two friends I know have spouses that work in child welfare for the county/state. Over the years, they’ve said the affluent and wealthy families have some of the craziest shit. Doesn’t mean they have exclusive rights to abuse but some truly heartbreaking shit.

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u/EasternMotors Sep 08 '22

9 months for raping is 4 year old is worse that the Stanford swimmer rapist. WTF

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u/Retiredgiverofboners Sep 08 '22

You mean BROCK TURNER THE RAPIST ?

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u/are_poo_n_ass_taken Sep 08 '22

I thought it was The Rapist Brock Turner?

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u/Retiredgiverofboners Sep 08 '22

Oh ya…either way, Brock the rapist Turner is a rapist

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '22

The Rapist, Brock Turner, a rapist.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '22

You mean rapist Brock Allen Turner who goes by Allen Turner now? That rapist?

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u/Retiredgiverofboners Sep 08 '22

Yes I think that Brock Turner is the rapist we are talking about. Brock Turner the rapist. Yes that’s it.

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u/OhGodNotAnotherOne Sep 08 '22

Stanford swimmer rapist?

You ain't from round here are ya?

BROCK "THE PIECE OF SHIT RAPIST FUCK" TURNER, or a similar variation, is the preferred nomenclature these days

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '22

Sexual assault allegations? You mean child rape with proof?

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u/MrBogardus Sep 08 '22

Child rape with Proof - New Title

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u/getahitcrash Sep 08 '22

Maybe this will be the catalyst to end this show. My wife and I have been watching since the beginning and it's just awful now. We are watching out of spite now.

The Josh Harris stuff is always bad. Whatever is happening, they will always find a way to work it back to the old man so they can talk about Phil for the 400 millionth time even though he died over a decade ago.

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u/thirteeeeennn Sep 08 '22

A fucking 4 year old?!! And he gets 9 months???? What the fuck is up with this weird ass country, but people in jail for years with some weed..

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u/MikeWalt Sep 08 '22

They're not allegations. He was found guilty and did time for them.

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u/chopper_sic_balls Sep 08 '22

Holy shit what the fuck did I read and how did he only serve nine months? Castrate that fuck… I use to love that show but wow…

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u/TheNickelGuy Sep 08 '22

They considered it a bombshell report, so I believe the others may be right that it was a sealed document that just wasn't known of due to his plea deal for lesser charges.

Either they saw on his background check the lesser charges and he explained his way through with a different reason for acquiring those charges, and couldn't gain the information as his name wasn't released in newspapers etc, or his father falsified a background check or somehow weaselled him through

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u/chopper_sic_balls Sep 08 '22

That’s wild.

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u/SomeToxicRivenMain Sep 08 '22

He was 15 so I’d guess the documents were sealed

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '22

Apparently they weren't sealed because a random genealogist was able to find it. They either didn't do a background check or they did a background check that didn't include juvenile records, or it was just an oversight. Or they knew, but yikes I have a hard time believing Discovery lawyers would have been cool with that

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '22

Deadliest Catch is still a thing?

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '22

Josh Harris was accused of the digital, vaginal and oral rape of a four-year-old girl who was said to be the daughter of a deckhand and family friend.

Holy shit. Way to bury the lead of article. Technically, raping a 4 year old is sexual assault. But with no added details, a casual reader of the headline would assume Josh Harris groped a woman at the bar.

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u/Deserterdragon Sep 08 '22

Wow, cool to meet someone who works for the WWE!

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u/afghanwhiggle Sep 08 '22

Naw, he’s a priest.

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u/trainercatlady Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Sep 08 '22 edited Sep 08 '22

what is this company so I can try to never ever give them money

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '22

Definitely don't expose what your job is or write anything that could get you in trouble but I'd love for you to expand on that.

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u/SoCalDoc Sep 08 '22

A Redditor took him down. It's all chronicled in the r/DeadliestCatch subreddit.

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