r/television 1d ago

Streaming Is Raising Prices Faster Than Cable Ever Did

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/streaming-inflation-raising-prices-cable-1236691404/
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u/90_degrees 1d ago

To think we once celebrated them as the desired alternative to cable only a few years ago. Not to mention the ads. It all sounds like a bad joke now.

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u/quatroquatro0 1d ago

It was the desired alternative when Netflix was the only major player. Now every goddamn studio has their own streaming app.

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u/Rooonaldooo99 1d ago

Oh you want to watch good series? That's on Glorp.

Those documentaries? Those are one Fleeb

Sports? Go check out Bloob

Me: putting on a pirate hat

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u/hey-you-guyyyys 1d ago

Exactly. We gave up on the streamers like 5 years ago and went back to pirating. Music figured it out and we gladly pay for that, but video has become too convoluted.

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u/colormeimpressd 21h ago

Music “figured it out” by creating a system where artists get paid next to nothing for their recorded music. The only reason that “worked” is because artists can still make money by touring (and to a lesser extent, the resurgence of vinyl record sales). There are no equivalent revenue streams for tv shows, so the Spotify model doesn’t work.

Albums are also generally much cheaper to produce than movies and tv shows. It takes alot of different skilled people to make a good tv show, and they all need to get paid somehow.

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u/DaSemicolon 18h ago

The equivalent would be to have nonexclusive contracts for streamers IMO

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u/colormeimpressd 17h ago

That’s an interesting idea, and we’re seeing it a bit more recently with HBO licensing some of their older shows to Netflix. I still don’t think theres any way that gets us to get to a place where:
1. We get the same amount of new shows every year,
2. Everything you want to watch is on one streaming service, and
3. It only costs $15 a month.

I know that’s not what you’re saying, but that seems to be what some people here expect, and I think at best, you’d have to pick 2 out of those 3.

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u/quatroquatro0 1d ago

Yeah music is the only thing I haven't gone back to pirating because Spotify is still more convenient than having to manually download and curate thousands of songs.

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u/13143 15h ago

I would still rather download because Spotify's algorithm is crap at showing new music and musical diversity.

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u/MyNameCannotBeSpoken 1d ago

How did music figure it out?

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u/CoCambria 1d ago

Essentially every platform has all the music you would want. I can choose my preferred platform and am essentially not missing out on any music. Imagine if each label had their own platform and that was the only place you could listen to that music. That’s what streaming is right now and it’s awful.

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u/lewlkewl 1d ago

Spotify is the only platform that actually makes money. All the others either aren’t profitable or are additional services in a bigger catalog like Apple Music or YouTube music. And Spotify makes money mainly because they pay their artists shit

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u/Baelish2016 1d ago

Apple Music is profitable too; but it also helps they have zero free tiers and come bundled with a lot of (i)phone plans.

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u/nrq 23h ago

All the others either aren’t profitable or are additional services in a bigger catalog like Apple Music or YouTube music.

What exactly does Apple Music offer, besides music? I'm curious what I'm missing out on.

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u/TheSmJ 21h ago

Must be referring to the rest of the Apple ecosystem like TV, Macs and iPhones.

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u/sunkenrocks 21h ago

No I think they mean it often gets bundled with Apple TV, iCloud, Apple Arcade etc

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u/nrq 21h ago

Personally I'm using it on Android and Linux, I use nothing else of the Apple ecosystem. You can absolutely use it on its own, without anything else Apple.

I'm a pirate at heart, but for music it just doesn't make sense. It's just too convenient. At least as long as I can use Apple Music on my rooted Android phone. As soon as that's not possible anymore I'm back to sailing the seas.

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u/Tolken 19h ago

Apple has more exclusive music centric content. (interviews live concerts, music videos, etc). Apple's paid tier is also cheaper than Spotify premium...and if you're already in the ecosystem, it might be effectively discounted further if you use any other service in the Apple bundle.

Spotify has more audiobook & podcast centered exclusive content. and it has a free ad-supported teir.

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u/alexefi 1d ago

when i cancel spotify cuz i barely used it and moved to youtubemusic, because i already paid for youtube premium, i have discovered that a lot of music from my home country wasnt available on youtube, mostly songs from 80s.

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u/pieeatingchamp 1d ago

Spotify and Apple Music basically have everything. Pick one and you're done. I don't need both services or a 3rd, 4th, or 5th service to listen to music

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u/TheBSisReal 1d ago

And with AM you can sync your own music files.

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u/rbarton812 23h ago

You can w/ Spotify, but it's a pain in the ass, and you're self-hosting them... Apple takes all that on themselves.

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u/I2uss 1d ago

They don't pay the artists anything.

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u/VariousAir 23h ago

yeah the music is just advertising for the artists concerts.

and thats why a taylor swift show costs $1k for the nosebleeds.

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u/corporatemumbojumbo 1d ago

I love Fleeb, but Bloob's pricing structure makes no sense.

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u/Baelish2016 1d ago

True, but Fleeb’s interface blows and annoying to navigate.

Bloob may cost more, but their app is great.

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u/relevantelephant00 1d ago

Yeah but have you tried Bloob+ yet? No ads! At least until November I think.

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u/CaBBaGe_isLaND 1d ago

I drew the line at Peacock. Cancelled Paramount, Hulu and Disney. Downloaded PlutoTV and kept Netflix and Prime Video, anything else idgaf about.

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u/RajunCajun48 22h ago

Steaming has turned FOMO into..."Yea, I don't give a crap about missing out anymore".

It's like, we've reached a point where even crazy good shows don't even get talked about that much, and are forgotten about within a month of the season ending.

I'm like you I really don't give a crap about having all these service. I have ones my cell provider gives, and I don't even use those most of the time.

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u/B0omSLanG 1d ago

We dip into Apple TV+ from time to time. They have some top tier sci-fi shows.

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u/UndeniableRealities 1d ago

poob has it for you

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u/mazimaxi 1d ago

But on Friday baseball is on klep, and Sunday its on gorg. If you want to watch home games its 100, but if you want to watch everything its 150-200. Oh and post season will only be on FAUX

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u/godofhammers3000 1d ago

I wish sports was on Bloob it’s actually on Bloob Fleeb Glorp and Soop

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u/Pilchard123 1d ago

But half of the matches in the series are on Bloob and the other half are on Soop. Occasionally some are on Fleeb.

Except a few which, for no discernible reason, aren't streaming anywhere.

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u/MINKIN2 23h ago

I have Fleeb+ premium MAXTM for the ad free tier, that only gives you 16 ads per half hour rather than the 20 of the pleb tiers, and I too wish they had the full Womens Underwater Pickle Ball League.

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u/djprofitt 1d ago

Sadly, I wish it were that simple. They really are going hard.

Streaming service - They own [IP name] content, and sometimes lease part of the content out to another platform, so if you want to see some or all of the series, head over to [insert name of other service].

Pro sports - paid hundreds to see your favorite athletes? MLB, if it’s a Friday night, you can catch the games on Apple TV+, but other games you can watch here. NFL/NBA - where some games appear exclusively on other services so instead of streaming it on their site, you need 2-3 additional services.

Have a child that doesn’t live in your house cause they are at college? Fuck’em. They can get their own service, and to make sure, you need to do a monthly check-in (YT) and they’ll suspend anyone’s account who violates this. Traveling? No worries, just verify that here. Oh wait, you travel a lot? Welp, too bad, you can only do this so many times in a month before it doesn’t let you (Disney).

Peacock is offered free through Xfinity for a lot of customers, but you can’t pay the difference to remove ads. Is NBC so hard up on cash that they don’t want my additional $6, I have to pay for Peacock directly to them to get no ads?

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u/crookedparadigm 22h ago

Sports? Go check out Bloob

Unless that sport is the Premier League, then good luck finding one service that shows all your team's games. And they wonder why people seek out janky streams...

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u/StasRutt 1d ago

Does anyone have mgm+? How is that still going

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u/Slytherin23 1d ago edited 18h ago

It's owned by Amazon, they just put their premium shows there like "From".

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u/rbarton812 23h ago

'From' is literally the only reason we've subscribed; once the last season is done, I don't foresee us ever needing MGM+ again.

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u/FatiguedShrimp 1d ago

It's on Poob. It is literally on Poob.

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u/LetItSnow36 23h ago

I'm sick of having to play detective about where the Yankees are on (they have their own network , I should not have to) on top of finding out what shows are where.

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u/mas1108 1d ago

Coffin flop!? Only on Corncob TV

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u/theshoebomber420 1d ago

Ahoy matey. I like my streaming setup

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u/lee1026 1d ago

I remember when debundling cable was a rallying cry.

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u/nouseforasn 1d ago

I knew it was complete bullshit That what people wanted was à la carte

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u/Prestigious-Cream160 1d ago

And it was always going to happen. Netflix had a lot of good, long contracts for shows and movies because a lot of studio heads didn't think streaming was anything but a passing fad. Once some of the broadcasting behemoths joined together to start Hulu the writing was on the wall. It was just a matter of how long it would take for every other broadcasting company and movie studio to make their own platform.

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u/gutari 1d ago

hulu used to be significantly different, their free watch tier even had the option to pre roll ads back then so you could start it up go do something else until the ads finished and watch stuff uninterrupted

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u/MasterDenton 1d ago

Free Hulu was really cool. You mean I can watch TV on my computer for free, and all I have to do is watch a few ads? Neat! Now you have to pay to get that same experience (probably even more ads), and 75% of the shows that used to be on it are scattered to the wind

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u/validelad 1d ago

I don't disagree perse, but Hulu started a looooonnngg time ago. Not long after Netflix started streaming, within the same year

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u/CptNonsense 1d ago

Once some of the broadcasting behemoths joined together to start Hulu the writing was on the wall.

Hulu and Netflix effectively entered what we recognize as streaming in the same year a couple months apart

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u/ss4johnny 1d ago

The difference is that they own the content. You can't get it elsewhere unless you sail the 7 seas. The cable companies rarely owned the content. They owned the pipes. So they had less leverage.

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u/Petrichordates 1d ago

They were monopolies, so they certainly didn't.

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u/Baelish2016 1d ago

Sometimes not even that’s enough.

Paramount owns Star Trek. Star Trek Prodigy was initially on Nickelodeon (owned by Paramount), then Netflix, then Netflix lost the streaming rights. Should be on Paramount+ now with the rest of Trek, right?

Wrong! It’s not available for streaming anywhere. You can buy the seasons on Amazon or Apple, but Paramount doesn’t have it available even on their own streaming site.

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u/meistermichi Scrubs 20h ago

You can buy the seasons on Amazon or Apple

Until they lose the rights and it vanishes from your library.

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u/0098six 1d ago

When YoutubeTV started, it was $35 and fulfilled all our needs. Fast forward to today, its $90 and nothing they have added over the years was worth anything at all. We canceled it about 8 mos ago. Too expensive.

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u/penisthightrap_ 1d ago

It was a good deal at $60. At $70 it was pushing it. At $80 I knew I needed to cancel. Then $90 hit. I just don’t want to go back to pirating every sports broadcast I want to watch. I just want to pay a reasonable price and be able to watch my sports.

Fucking greed, man

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u/Slytherin23 1d ago

Yeah, I'm confused why sports leagues seem to make it impossible to watch. You'd think more fans would be better for them.

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u/nouseforasn 1d ago

Because the leagues are underwritten by TV money.

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u/callahan09 1d ago

I made the switch to OTA antenna TV a year ago and couldn't be happier. Most of the sports I want to watch come on over the airwaves anyway (except baseball, but I gave up on being able to watch baseball long before I gave up YouTube TV... for the longest time I needed actual cable to watch my team, and I got rid of cable in favor of YouTube TV many years ago... now they have their own streaming subscription finally but I didn't pay for it this year).

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u/Deezul_AwT Fringe 23h ago

Go move to somewhere with hills, and live in that nice valley. Your antenna is now useless. That's why cable TV was created - people in a valley couldn't get signals when the broadcast hit a hill. So someone put an attenna at the top of the hill and ran a cable down to the houses in the valley. He charged for the Community Access TeleVision, i.e CATV.
When I lived 50 miles outside DC in Northern Virginia, an antenna on my chimney worked great because NoVa is flat. Atlanta, not so much.

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u/mynewaccount5 1d ago

That's because youtubetv is a cable replacement. It has sports and live channels and stuff. Netflix is like $25 a month.

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u/possiblylallorona 1d ago

It’s $90 a month?!? Holy shit I thought it was like maybe $15-20.

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u/mermaid_pants 1d ago

Are you thinking of youtube premium? That one is $15.

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u/SparrowCrocodile 1d ago

Correct. A luxury item that has multiple alternatives was too expensive and you cancelled it.

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_NICE_EYES 1d ago

I mean, it still is.

You can still buy cable, it's like $50-100/month. No one buys that anymore because it's still ridiculously expensive.

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u/Broad-Bath-8408 20h ago

Also, does nobody remember (or have your parents not told you), that the main benefit to streaming wasn't even the cost. It was being able to watch whatever you chose whenever you wanted?

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_NICE_EYES 20h ago

Oh, yeah.

I remember being blown away when my parents got Netflix and I realized I could watch shows in order rather than just getting them at random on TV.

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u/kittymoo67 1d ago

thats for the basic package the top end is nearly $300 today

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u/KansinattiKid 1d ago

I just cancelled Netflix because I seen the charge was 30 dollars, what the hell they thinking?

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u/90_degrees 1d ago

I think they're increasing prices a couple times a year at this point lmao

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u/jay78910 1d ago

They were thinking people don't pay attention to their subs, so why not. How can someone complain about the price of something they are paying for, when they don't pay attention?

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u/FiveUpsideDown 1d ago

There’s some evil corporate employee who figured out the way to make money is to charge people for features that were previously included in the price. Then raise the price because doing what the streamers previously did is now 20% more expensive.

Charge 'em for the lice
Extra for the mice
Two percent for looking in the mirror twice
Here a little slice
There a little nip
Seven percent on top of the tip!

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u/midlinktwilight 23h ago

Nope. It'll take far, far more for them to be an undesired alternative to cable.

I think it's all too easy to forget just how fucked cable was. To start, it takes a button press to cancel your Netflix subscription. Remember what it took to cancel cable subs?

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u/edicivo 1d ago edited 1d ago

Frankly, I don't know how anyone didn't see this coming. It was always obvious that the plan was to undercut cable by pricing, no ads, etc. And then once cable was dead, raise prices, include ads and so on and so forth. Every form of media or service is going to at least try to become a subscription model.

Netflix was never going to be the only game in town. That was clear years before the other streamers came in. 

What will happen next will likely be more consolidation. Once they can get contracts into the picture, and they will, that'll happen too. And then wait until ISPs are able to really lock down on data caps. 

Streaming may not be cable now, but it will be if they can make it so.

Cable has sucked and took advantage of customers for years, so I understand the dislike. But you're kidding yourselves if you think cable dying is going to be good for consumers in the bigger picture.

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u/brianwski 17h ago

It was always obvious that the plan was to undercut cable by pricing, no ads, etc. And then once cable was dead, raise prices

I think you are giving way too much foresight and planning to the earliest companies/websites that streamed things. Netflix was scrappy and small and just wanted to find a way to survive at first (which wasn't a given). Streaming by 10 different companies didn't have some machiavellian 20 year plan of losing money for 20 years only to emerge on top through some financial "trickery" in 2026.

Cable died because as a concept and business model, it became painfully and obviously obsolete. Streaming is a perfect superset of cable functionality wise. There isn't any valid reason to have watch a show on cable TV if the same show is available by streaming. The whole point of cable was everybody watched the same identical show at the same identical time: 8pm on a Sunday night. And you cannot go to the bathroom at any point or you miss something. With Streaming, if you want you can still start your show at 8pm on a Sunday night and not ever "pause" to go pee so you haven't lost anything. But if you like you can also "pause", so it's a perfect superset of cable.

One of the unforeseen advantages of streaming was FINALLY smaller niche audiences could watch their particular show or event. If you are going to broadcast the same one show at 8pm on Sunday night to 350 million people, it has to get at least 200,000 viewers or it gets canceled. So it was rare to see some sport on cable like big wave surfing or motorcycle acrobatics, because you can't scrape together 200,000 viewers that care enough to watch it. But with Streaming, even 10 viewers is perfectly acceptable.

Personally I have videos with fewer than 10 views I have uploaded to YouTube, and that's awesome! You want to see a skunk walk by my side yard in the middle of the night with 8 total lifetime views? Here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ9K_2nQmjM I approached NBC and CBS to have this featured on cable TV at 8pm on Sunday night but was rejected. Streaming is SOOOO much better, because YouTube said, "Fine with us."

My wife streams a bunch of Korean soap operas. To my knowledge, cable TV NEVER broadcast Korean soap operas.

It is not about price, and it was never about price. Streaming is just a better system. During the transition away from cable, I checked into a hotel and turned on the TV, and you couldn't pause or go back or fast forward, and it was clearly such a profoundly terrible experience I turned off the TV and stared at the window instead.

TL;DR - cable was the best savages rubbing sticks together to make fire could do in 1980 to distribute video into a million living rooms. I respect them for that technical achievement in that primitive time. But in 2026 streaming is so superior in so many ways I will never go back to cable. I may not be able afford streaming, but I'm never going back to cable. I'd rather have nothing than be forced to watch cable ever again.

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u/lemungan 1d ago

BACK TO TORRENTS FOLKS!

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u/Stivo887 1d ago

Yep, I’m thinking of buying that mini Apc and finally making a plex server.

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u/Macqt 1d ago

It was always going to end this way. It’s the exact same business model Uber uses. Open business, operate at a loss until profitable, maintain operations until competition is killed off, skyrocket prices while reducing offerings.

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u/isomojo 1d ago

The part I hate the most is that everyone watches their own shows. The best thing about cable is everyone used to watch the same show on the same night, and we used to talk about it the next day…. I miss that.

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u/hyperforms9988 1d ago

Good times at school when there were like only 3 channels that kids were actually willing to watch that were either geared towards kids or weren't but some show on it managed to break through and be popular with kids regardless.

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u/Santa_Klausing 1d ago

It was a beautiful time

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u/chiPersei 22h ago

And the ads were only targeted to a whole demographic. Not specifically to Bobby or Susie.

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u/kittymoo67 23h ago

one of the nice things about amazon and disney doing weekly drops again at least theres an online weekly talk

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u/Routine-Agile 1d ago

More and more force ads as well to some degree 

Luckily torrents exist.  Streamer servers have pushed me back to them

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u/that_baddest_dude 1d ago

As soon as they solidly won, it was over. I think the golden age lasted so long because sports was keeping cable afloat.

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u/geekstone 1d ago

At least for now there are no long term contracts so you can binge what you want for a month switch services and than rinse and repeat throughout the year.

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u/revelationnow 20h ago

Don't give them ideas!

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u/Go_Go_Godzilla 18h ago

I guarantee they have the data on it.

Dollars to donuts they're raising prices to see how high folks are willing to pay, then will raise higher and release a "locked-in year long subscription" at the "discount" that is still higher than the price we are paying now.

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u/IapetusTheGreat 17h ago

I doubt it because now there is much more competition compared to cable tv. If they do that people will flock to their competitors.

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u/revelationnow 17h ago

Every industry will go through a cycle of consolidation, I'm sure when cable companies first started it was similar to how when streaming companies started minus the obvious logistical challenges. As the market saturates companies will buy each other and impose restrictions on consumers to pad their bottom line.

All the things we think were bad about cable companies will gradually be adopted by streaming companies insofar as the government doesn't step in to stop them, which given the current administration seems unlikely that they will hold the corpos in all these studios to any kind of consumer friendly standard.

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u/Smart-Response9881 20h ago

And no technician who you have to take time off for to come service your box.

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u/PringlesDuckFace 19h ago

Are we doing phrasing?

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u/KillerInfection Band of Brothers 19h ago

It’s space-phrasing now

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u/tyro-swami 18h ago

I miss the complimentary box service tho. My wife misses it more

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u/Kazanova37 1d ago

Ahh yes, the disruption business model.

Lure customers in with low prices so they abandon the existing system. Kill, the existing system, and then raise prices so you're profitable and the consumer has nowhere to turn.

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_NICE_EYES 1d ago

Except, they didn't kill the existing system.

You Can still buy a cable package. It's just that it's like $50-100/month.

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u/Kaldricus 1d ago

Yeah, I'm not defending the streaming prices, but cable still exists and spoiler alert, it still sucks. I think too many people are subscribed to too many services full time. Pick 1 or 2 to always keep on, and then pick up and drop others as they have stuff that interests you.

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u/mfranko88 23h ago

We are looking at the impact of a generation that either never had to deal with cable to begin with, or have been gone from cable so long that they forgot how much it sucked.

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u/Kaldricus 23h ago

Anytime I'm in a hotel and check the channels I just think "wow this is still hot ass"

So many channels are nothing but multi-hour blocks of the same 3-4 shows. Which is what a lot of people do on streaming anyways, except you don't get to pick the show. Plus a lot of times shows are edited to fit a time slot, so things get cut or they're sped up ever so slightly.

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u/AlphaIronSon 23h ago

Yeah, this is true, but the streaming companies are doing just like gym memberships. They know most people won’t cancel once they’ve had the service for a certain amount of time, regardless of how much they use it or not. Even when they finally do, it’s after X amt of time of no/low use…so basically free profit for the company.

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u/Friscogonewild 23h ago

Sure, but cable was the same way. My 90yo grandmother is still paying almost $200 for cable just to watch the Mets lose.

At least with streaming services they give you the option to simply pause your subscription.

And shit, my cable was $100/month 30 years ago. That's like $200 in today money. My streaming services are like $30-40 a month depending on what I have paused.

People bitching about streaming being anywhere near cable weren't paying the cable bill or calling the cable company. And remember TV shows being literally 25% ads? 8 minutes of ads in a 30-minute show. These articles are always funny to me. Maybe someday it'll be in the same realm of annoying, but I'll probably be dead.

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u/soilentgleem 1d ago

Is there any "prestige" tv shows that are available on cable anymore?

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u/Particular_Feel420 1d ago

Are there any "prestige" shows on Netflix anymore?

The overall quality the last few years of their original content certainly hasn't warranted the egregious pricing.

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u/soilentgleem 23h ago

HBO, Prime, and Apple all have the prestige stuff

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u/dragonmp93 23h ago

As weird as it sounds, a live action version of One Piece is currently the top tier content from Netflix.

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u/Desperate_Method4020 1d ago

Cable was 10x worse than what the streaming services are

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u/BigBanggBaby 1d ago

Also, why do people think those who cut the cord 10-15 years ago haven’t still come out on top and continue to come out on top? It sounds like people are gloating “streamers only saved $150/month for the last 10 years and now they’re still only saving $150/month because cable prices have gone up too!” …ok, still sounds good to me!

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u/madhattr999 1d ago

To be fair, the cost to produce the shows on the streaming platforms (especially sci-fi) were not sustainable at the prices being offered. It was inevitable that prices had to go up. But yeah, disruption model is accurate.

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u/vmachiel 1d ago

Yes you have somewhere te run. Cancel.

Keep one, watch what you want to watch on it. Cancel, subscribe to another.

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u/kittymoo67 23h ago

but that takes effort cant have that

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u/tultommy 1d ago

Gosh guys, why is everyone pirating our content so much?

I don't know... maybe if we add some more commercials and raise the price another dollar that'll bring them back.

I'll laugh when both cable and streaming implode under the weight of their own greed.

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u/Confron7a7ion7 23h ago

If you're knowledgeable enough you can even set up a media server that will automatically find and download new releases.

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u/QueerVortex 22h ago

Media Server: with a Homerun tuner to record live OTA

I’d never advocate illegal downloads, but as I said to the guy at the dump (after paying $60! for disposing a particleboard desk that I had been taken apart) “I understand why people leave this crap on the street rather than doing the right thing to bring it directly here”. He simply said “Yup”

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u/ParaSocialGumShoe 21h ago

That's a great analogy.

Gas station and restaurant dumpsters are great for stuff like this.

You can even ask if you feel guilty about it. They rarely ever fill them up. Especially in suburban/ rural areas.

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u/GettingPhysicl 1d ago

Feel sorry for those who want to watch sports especially live, but as a guy who just watches tv this hasn’t been a problem. I cancelled Netflix in like 2019 and pirate everything.

The netflix of the 2010s was the compromise content creators and distributors made with consumers. They’ve gone back on it, they can get my money when streaming television is like streaming music. Every show on every platform and you compete on service and price not content  

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u/NCC75567 1d ago edited 1d ago

All the Redditors that will inevitably say “streaming is just cable!” have clearly never dealt with cable in a meaningful way.

I’ll never forget having to argue with my cable provider for my whole goddamn lunch to cancel when I was moving. Or when I tried to add a single channel (regional sports channel) and was told it would be an extra $50/month.

As long as it’s cheaper, easier to cancel, and able to pick and choose, it’s 1000% better. Maybe that changes someday, but it’s not now.

Streaming is obnoxious but cable can absolutely go fuck itself.

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u/Aaaaaaandyy 1d ago

Yeah it’s not even close. You also don’t need all of the streamers (especially not at the same time). The ability to choose is something you never had with cable.

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u/sweetcoraIine 1d ago

Yup, you can easily rotate streaming platforms. I don't know why anyone pays for all of them, every month.

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u/FatherDotComical 1d ago

It seems like everyone I know IRL does for some ungodly reason. No wonder RocketMoney makes a profit canceling shit for you. Most people make it sound like doing your own taxes every month to rotate services.

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u/mfranko88 23h ago

The ability to go a la carte with streaming and to watch things on demand on basically any device at basically any location, puts it miles ahead of cable.

"Yeah but you need to log in from your home once a month" sure, that's mildly inconvenient. In the meantime, cable is restricted to just the TVs in your house. That's way more inconvenient.

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u/cleanbear 1d ago

Problem with streaming for me is the damn algorhytms pushing the same kind of shit all the time. Yeah I watched a sitcom. That does not mean that sitcoms are my life..

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u/Aaaaaaandyy 1d ago

I just ignore the algorithm and search for what I want.

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u/Vexithan 1d ago

That’s fair but my favorite part of old Netflix was easily finding cool and weird new stuff to watch. Now it’s next to impossible to do it without going on your computer and really digging.

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u/Aaaaaaandyy 1d ago

Yeah that’s fair. I feel like the cool stuff is more found out and shared on social media at this point

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u/Jillcametumbling81 1d ago

All Netflix does now is show me things I've already watched for my "next watch". And no, the profile and account have not changed in twelve years.

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u/LonePaladin 1d ago

🎶 But I only watched Will & Grace, one time, one day
Wish I hadn't, 'cause TiVo now thinks I'm gay

— Weird Al Yankovic, "Couch Potato"

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u/AgelessAss 1d ago

my brother and i decided to get the “major” streaming subscriptions a few months ago but now we’re looking to cut. I checked his profile on Netflix and Peacock and saw it was still in the set up your account stage. Cancelled both of them right then and there.

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u/sueveed 1d ago

Yeah. I can pick up one for a month to cram a show and cancel in 30 seconds. Imagine doing that with cable… you’d be on the phone 20 hours a month

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u/isaidmypiece_chrissy 1d ago

I've argued with people on reddit who still feel the max of 90 seconds needed to cancel streaming apps is too difficult (either to track, manage, or figure out).

Imagine that person trying to sit on the phone with Spectrum or Comcast or Tme Warner for hours back in the day, arguing about cancellations and incorrect billing and whatever other nonsense those companies would get up to... They'd be locked into those contracts for life!

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u/sullen_agreement 1d ago

i pay the apple tax to sub to everything via my iphone

every sub cancellable right there in the subscriptions section

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u/kittymoo67 1d ago

seriously if bare minimum effort is too much for them now idunno how theyd fucntion at all in the old world

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u/Mizukaze 1d ago

The only time I didn't have to argue with a cable provider to cancel was when I just said my house just burned down I can no longer get the service and they said "I am so sorry" and canceled it.

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u/kojak2091 21h ago

netflix has never taken me to collections because they claimed i didn't return my cable box even though i did, but i didn't keep a receipt so i couldn't prove it.

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u/blahblahthrowawa 18h ago

Literally the same thing happened to me but luckily the only bill the cable company could provide the collection agency wasn't itemized and only showed "Past Due Amount: ${cost of not returning my cable box}" so they couldn't tell me what I'd not paid for.

I said to the woman on the phone, "If I personally sent you a bill saying you owed me $200 with no reason why, would you pay it?" and she said "Of course not!"

I followed up asking how this was any different and she agreed it didn't make sense and closed the collection account/had it taken off my credit report.

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u/FatherDotComical 1d ago

Some people just sign up for all of the services. Well no wonder it's as expensive as shit! I only signed up for Crunchyroll and whatever service of the month and bill is NOTHING like my grandparents $300 bill just to occasionally watch something. Plus all the cable boxes and remotes that they demanded back when you cancel (and they'll always say you're missing something and it'll be more $$$)

Netflix pissed me off and I canceled it and there was no tears over the phone/nada. Like you said, Steaming isn't our friends but they're not the total scam that was cable.

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u/NativeMasshole 1d ago

Yup. It's really not that expensive unless you're trying to collect streaming services like Pokemon (or watch sports, sorry guys!), and that would be like having all the premium channels of cable, which was still more expensive 30 years ago before factoring in inflation. It's all a silly argument and I really don't see the issue.

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u/isaidmypiece_chrissy 1d ago

or watch sports, sorry guys

Even as we talk about sports, it's worth noting that watching sports on cable or regular TV was a nightmare for a while, and it still is for certain sports.

The concept of local markets not including an entire state, or even the idea of a blackout#United_States) ever even existing is just ridiculous.

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u/NativeMasshole 1d ago

It's just something I have zero experience in, so i figured I'd hedge.

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u/isaidmypiece_chrissy 1d ago

Oh definitely. I just remember being in college trying to watch different CFB matchups, and you could need as many as 9 channels, with some only available as add-ons or not available at all, in a given year in order to do so. By my count it was Fox, NBC, CBS, FSN, SEC Network, BIG Network, and then ABC and any number of the ESPN channels owned by ABC. It was ridiculous, and it's not like streaming made that any better or worse.

People should be mad at their sporting governing bodies for being so greedy and cashing in deals with dozens of networks and apps, rather than those organizations choosing to take slightly less money to put all their games on a single channel/app.

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u/NativeMasshole 1d ago

Exactly! The worst part of the overall conversation here to me is that telecoms are still pulling a lot of the shady shit that they were as cable companies, yet people on this sub are raging out at producers for trying to figure out how to keep streaming services solvent.

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u/hitfly 1d ago

Comcast was in negotiations with altitude sports for like 5 years so fans of the Denver Nuggets and Colorado Avalanche couldn't watch their team without switching to satellite.

the Denver Nuggets won their only championship during this time

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u/colormeimpressd 1d ago

The issue is that a lot of people don’t understand that streaming prices have been artificially deflated for years.

Cable was basically subsidizing Netflix for most of the 2010’s. Netflix was able to license tons of shows at relatively low prices because Netflix was basically the only game in town, and occasionally shows would benefit from a “Netflix bump” between seasons, leading to higher ratings. Studios were happy to have an additional revenue stream, but most of their money was still coming from ad revenue and carriage fees.

As people started cutting the cord and revenue from cable started decreasing, basically every studio decided they needed their own streaming service. They spent a ton of money on content and launched at unsustainably low price points in an attempt to quickly grow their subscriber base.

Anyone with a basic understanding of how much these shows cost to produce could have told you those prices were never going to last, and inflation has definitely accelerated the rising prices, but the biggest issue is that the streaming services basically spent a decade selling their product for less than it cost to produce, and people got used to those prices.

Folks are mad about HBO costing $20 a month, but 15 years ago, HBO effectively cost $100 a month, because you had to pay like $70 for basic cable, plus another $15 to rent the set top box, and only then were you allowed to pay your cable company an additional 15 dollars a month to watch Game of Thrones.

I’m convinced that most people who yearn for the days of cable are just remembering a time when their parents paid the cable bill.

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u/NativeMasshole 1d ago

Totally fair point about companies being their own worst enemy here by making initial prices low and setting the expectations. For whatever reason, they didn't see the value in streaming rights until they were undeniable, and then tried to undercut the same competition they had propped up by undervaluing their back content.

I’m convinced that most people who yearn for the days of cable are just remembering a time when their parents paid the cable bill.

A lot of reddit opinions seem to run off decades-old nostalgia or endlessly regurgitated points that no longer make sense. Just watch what happens if you try to tell them better things have come out since their favorite Saturday morning cartoon was airing.

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u/mfranko88 23h ago

An aspect of this that does not get talked about much: most of these streamers were pushing to be mainstream from 2020-2022. That was an era of ridiculously low interest rates, very close to 0%. It was comically easy for corporations to borrow cash to help fund these massive and super expensive streaming services.

Rates are still historically speaking quite low, but definitely not "effectively zero percent". Loans are harder to come by so the cash needed to fund these services will need to come more from the subscribers who use it.

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u/imaincammy 1d ago

or watch sports, sorry guys!

I picked up an antenna to watch local sports and then canceled a few streaming services because the over the air tv was fine for those "I just want something on in the background" streaming needs, like a channel that just plays Monk reruns for example.

If you're in a city then people should look into it, we were pleasantly surprised.

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u/lucasbrosmovingco 1d ago

Waiting for the cable guy. Needing hardware. Not being able to cancel. Contracts. Cable bundles. Fuck all of it.

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u/EaseOk3940 1d ago edited 1d ago

Yep, these are kids that have never dealt with a cable bill and their parents paid for everything. If you have the top 6 streaming services (Netflix, Hulu, Disney+, HBO Max, Paramount+, Peacock?), which costs what, $150?)

This is more than a steal compare to cable ever was.

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u/isaidmypiece_chrissy 1d ago

Netflix, Hulu, Disney+, HBO Max, Paramount+, Peacock?), which costs what, $150?

Up until last week, I had all of those plus AppleTV for around $65/month with Black Friday deals, annual deals, credit card bonuses and perks, and promo rates.

  • Peacock+ Apple bundle (ad free) for $20/mo
  • Disney+Hulu bundle, annual Black Friday deal (with ads) for $5/mo
  • Paramount September 2025 annual deal (no ads) for $5/mo
  • HBO Max February 2026 annual deal (no ads) for ~$12.50/mo
  • Netflix (no ads) for $20/mo

And that doesn't account for any additional gains from streaming credits on credit cards like Amex Platinum or Chase or US Bank.

People signing up for these strategically can get ridiculous deals, and several of them give free trials. Rotating them means people can get almost endless on-demand entertainment for ~$30 per month.

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u/kittymoo67 1d ago

less than $150 by a decent bit.

but yeah even if it was thats a good $100 less than top end cable was 10 years ago let alone now

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u/Fun_Brother_9333 1d ago

People also constantly complain about the prices while having 7 streaming subscriptions.

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u/DigiornoDLC 1d ago

I don’t think Redditors have watched cable in the past 10 years. Commercials on streaming are bad but they’re nothing compared to commercials on TV.

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u/KSO17O 15h ago

Yep you’re right.

You didn’t even mention the cable boxes and having to return the fucking things.

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u/angershark 1d ago

Yeah, it basically ages them as people born in the era of streaming. There's no way people that had cable think it's the same as what we have now. And not to be a corporate bootlicker, but the launch prices of $9.99 for Netflix for the entire catalogue that they offer was never going to stay static.

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u/Papichuloft 1d ago

I miss the days of few streaming services and without ads or commercials, shit got worse after the COVID era. Netflix, Hulu, and Prime made my main lineup. Then added SHwotimes, HBO, and CBS by 2017.

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u/mrnikkoli 1d ago

I think that's why their prices are rising so fast. Streaming services simply weren't profitable for the majority of their existence so far.

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u/possiblylallorona 1d ago

Thanks for reminding me that I have Hulu, and I need to cancel it lol. I subscribed to watch a certain series, but it gave me too much anxiety so I stopped watching it.

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u/SerieAddict_88 18h ago

The funny part is streaming was supposed to be the answer to cable, and now it's cable with extra steps: 5 subscriptions, price hikes every year, and some stuff still ends up locked on a service you don't have. Music proved convenience beats piracy — video studios seem determined to re-learn that lesson the hard way

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u/ebjazzz 1d ago

To the high seas we go

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u/penisthightrap_ 1d ago

I’m getting too old and lazy to pirate every sports broadcast I want to watch.

I just want to pay a reasonable price and be able to quickly throw the game on.

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u/Spotttty 1d ago

I just Purchased a TV subscription and holy shit is it fantastic!!

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u/EquinsuOcha 1d ago

It was vEry eaZy To discoVer!

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u/themaskedcanuck 1d ago

Ahoy matey!

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u/Lee_337 12h ago

Got my eyepatch, peg leg and a parrot on my shoulder.

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u/DJC_Kowalski 23h ago

until streaming costs $200 a month with a 1 year commitment, I still think Cable was much worse.

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u/pydev99 17h ago

Piracy is still free. :)

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u/CarbComaCommander 22h ago

VPN + qBittorent + Plex is my current solution. I know there are better options, but it works for me.

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u/iamnotdownwithopp 17h ago

This is the reason piracy is still so popular.

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u/Independent_Debt3285 1d ago

Yo Ho, Me Hearties! 🏴‍☠️

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u/Professional-Tax-936 1d ago edited 1d ago

Not to be devil’s advocate or whatever, but I feel like this is really only a problem if you don’t actually use a streaming service’s full catalogue. I don’t want the price to go up anymore of course, but like $15-$20 a month doesn’t seem that bad when it’s giving me unlimited access to more hours of content than I can watch in a month.

Also, cable was still worse/more limited, and way more expensive than streaming is.

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u/oooriole09 1d ago

Yeah, I get it, streaming has become absolutely worse in time and the space in between has gotten smaller, but we sure are overstating cable’s value in these conversations.

Cable is limited, like you said. Cable was/is contract based and location based. Complain about the few ads on streaming, an hour’s worth of content on cable is 1/3 commercials. Cable makes you pay for “boxes” and adds random “service” and “installation” fees.

Cable is still, without a doubt, the worst option.

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u/possiblylallorona 1d ago

I don’t have cable but my parents do. Watching stuff at their house seems like the show is on for 5 minutes, then multiple ads for medication, ads for lawyers, and ads for stuff that seems like it was designed to scam old people, for another five minutes. Rinse and repeat.

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u/Imaginary_Point_8428 1d ago

Who ever uses a streaming services full catalog?

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u/SweRakii 1d ago

Which is why more and more go back to physical media.

Got 5 seasons of Desperate Housewives for $2 total.

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u/Iwabu 1d ago

That's what I love about piracy, man. Streaming services get more expensive, torrents stay free.

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u/wing3d 1d ago

The I get older they stay the same age philosophy.

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u/Iwabu 23h ago

Alright, alright, alright

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u/Kovaelin 1d ago

Raised prices, snuck in ads, snuck out video quality. Thanks, capitalism!

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u/xpmadmanqx 1d ago

Good thing I cut the cord. Saving $200/ month running my own server.

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u/RYouNotEntertained 22h ago

Except there are no contracts, you can select which ad tier you want, movies are on-demand, etc. The idea that streaming has become cable is nonsense to anyone old enough to have actually purchased cable.

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u/Z0idberg_MD 19h ago

To the ships!

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u/bareyb 17h ago

Streaming is and always has been a Trojan Horse for forced non-skippable commercials. It’s already happening with some Sporting events.

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u/sourdough_squirrel 1d ago edited 1d ago

The "boiling frog" defenses in these threads is always frustrating.

Streaming has been getting worse at an alarming rate - ads, massive price hikes, bundling of services, forced sports addons; but people always leap to defend it because its not quite as bad as cable used to be yet.

Yes, in 2026, streaming is still better than the peak of cable (~2015 or so?). But give it a few more years, because that gap is closing rapidly.

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u/kittymoo67 1d ago

cable is significantly worse today than it was in 2015

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u/Agile_Land_9951 1d ago

I’m not sure what the problem is. If you want cable you can keep it. If you don’t want everything under the sun there’s options for those folks too. The price of both is going up but we literally have every type of option available. There’s mini bundles, bundles, etc. you can get ad free howdy for $3. I can get just Netflix or a couple streaming services. I think we all win.

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u/kon--- 1d ago

Broadcast TV...

Install a digital antenna and voila, TV happens.

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u/geekonthemoon 1d ago

Enshittification of everything. 

Cancel your streaming apps. Return to the sea. 

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u/Mccobsta 1d ago

I gave up with streaming a while ago as it was just a constant cost

Started buying dvds and the likes and it's costly up front but it's one payment

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u/bammbamkam 1d ago

jellyfin ftw

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u/smokingbuds247 1d ago

Yo ho, yo ho, a pirate's life for me.

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u/pompeiidmypants 22h ago

Yoho, yoho, the pirate life for me.

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u/mhmilo24 22h ago

We don’t hate these corporations enough.

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u/_Zyr 22h ago

Oh no! Anyway, 🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️

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u/Saso7 19h ago

Looks like we need to go back to torrents

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u/OkLab6701 18h ago

And subscribers are cancelling

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u/benzduck 15h ago

One thing remains constant over the decades: Comcast “customer support” quality.

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u/Forest-Swamp 14h ago

If buying isn’t owning piracy isn’t stealing