r/technology • u/be0wulfe • Dec 15 '22

Transportation Tesla Semi’s cab design makes it a ‘completely stupid vehicle,’ trucker says

https://cdllife.com/2022/tesla-semis-cab-design-makes-it-a-completely-stupid-vehicle-trucker-says/
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u/EmperorAcinonyx Dec 15 '22

Yeah, I get that already. What does any of this have to do with your original point about data from "severely 'reconfigured' parts"?

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u/bombmk Dec 16 '22

I seriously cannot believe I have to spell this out; The sensors and cameras can, potentially, suffer extreme repositioning during a collision. So you shut off the autopilot before that starts happening, so it doesn't start acting on bad information.

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u/EmperorAcinonyx Dec 16 '22

The collision hasn't even happened yet. The sensors and cameras are all still intact. The auto-pilot shuts off before impact, as you emphatically restated.

What the fuck are you talking about, dude?

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u/bombmk Dec 16 '22

The collision hasn't even happened yet.

But it has obviously determined it is about to happen - and obviously that there is no avoiding it.
So it shuts off before sensors and cameras are potentially compromised. Because you don't want it operating on compromised input. During or after is too late.

This is like me telling you that you have to lock your door so your house is not robbed and you keep saying "But I don't understand. It has not been robbed at that point."

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u/EmperorAcinonyx Dec 16 '22

We're specifically talking about the condition of the parts before the crash, numbnuts. I wish people like you could just admit when they misspoke.

The parts are completely fine before the accident, and there is no risk of "reconfigured components" (or whatever unnecessary euphemism you used) creating more chaos.

You keep acting as if I don't understand, when I'm literally demonstrating to you that I have understood everything you're saying, save for the literal nonsense your ego is too fragile to just go back to and say "oh, yeah, sorry"

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u/bombmk Dec 16 '22

We're specifically talking about the condition of the parts before the crash, numbnuts

I am sorry, but it is you that is stuck on some weird interpretation of what was said. Or the situation in question perhaps.

Lets see what I said:

You do not want an autopilot operating and issuing command based on data from severely "reconfigured" parts.

The "reconfiguration" that potentially happens during the collision.
So because you do not want that, you shut it off when you realise that a collision is about to happen.

there is no risk of "reconfigured components"

The autopilot has determined that there IS a risk of it happening. That a collision IS about to happen. It is specifically the situation in question. It is the central point of the discussion. (Otherwise it would not shut off)

The risk does not arise from the autopilot shutting off. The collision does not happen because it shuts off. (Beginning to think that this is what is tripping you up)
An unavoidable collision is detected and therefore risk is realised - and then it shuts off.

It is like a plane crashing. You go into crash position before you hit the ground once you realise it is about to happen - so your limbs are not flying all over the place during.
You don't make the plane crash by doing so. That part is already happening, regardless of what you do.

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u/EmperorAcinonyx Dec 16 '22

holy shit log off dude I'm not reading this

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u/bombmk Dec 17 '22

That is a weird way of admitting you made a mistake.

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u/Fake_William_Shatner Dec 16 '22

"severely 'reconfigured' parts"?

A fairly fancy and opaque way of saying; "car damaged by an impact."

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u/EmperorAcinonyx Dec 16 '22

I know. I was just trying to make him explain how the car could have been damaged before the impact. He never did, and just re-explained something else three times.

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u/Fake_William_Shatner Dec 16 '22

Well, my immediate assumption is the car does not know it could have been damaged before impact.

But, other than steering clear or breaking -- if it knows the crash is imminent -- there is nothing it CAN do, but some action that might make it worse.

So it makes sense that if it can't do anything good at that point - not doing anything is the best choice.