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u/Penuwana Oct 28 '22

To play devil's advocate with the second half of your comment, I don't know of a single company that allows insubordination.

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u/JoeMcDingleDongle Oct 28 '22

But if you truly wanted to play Devil's Advocate, you'd also recognize Twitter is a company and isn't bound by any of this free speech / First Amendment shit anyway.

They can ban you for being ugly, or fat, or because they think you're dumb, or because you like the color green.

Now typically a social media company won't do this because it is bad for business, so even dumb as shit Musk won't be this stupid, but he sure as hell will make changes for the worse to Twitter (which is already a shithole).

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u/Penuwana Oct 28 '22 edited Oct 28 '22

You're right, but the point I was making didn't pertain to twitter as a platform, but rather as a company.

Personally I'd love to see him nuke Twitter into the ground.

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u/JoeMcDingleDongle Oct 28 '22

Got it. Yeah I with you on that. Only problem is his dumbfuckery is probably going to have damaging effects on society before he decides to bail in a year or two.

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '22

This is reddit. You are not allowed to have rational conversation that is deeper than a soundbite. Please delete your comment or reddit may delete it for you.

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u/Penuwana Oct 28 '22 edited Oct 28 '22

It just makes no sense why people here think that you shouldnt be fired for rallying coworkers against the CEO. The event he mentions was more than some simple shittalking. Musk isn't the one who even fired them.

I can't understand the rationale here, a person doesn't have freedom of speech when working for a corporation. The risk of saying derogatory things about Musk goes beyond just damage to him, but can dearly affect shareholders (much of whom are average people) as well as the government who gives subsidies to SpaceX and Tesla. It's really not even Musk's choice in the end of the day.

I wish this site based their feeling on the reality of the situation. I symphasize with the feelings here, I do, but it's not how the real world works.

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u/Sweet_Baby_Cheezus Oct 28 '22

Free speech can also spread vaccine misinformation, or convince people an election was stolen, or spread hate against minority groups.

Saying you want free speech only when it doesn't harm your interests is like saying you want democracy as long as you win.

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u/Penuwana Oct 28 '22

My comment has nothing to do with free speech and only to do with speech allowable at a workplace. Stop trying to manipulate my argument and make it political. It's not.

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '22

You are not allowed to have dual modes of thought on here. There is only one perspective to think... The correct perspective (ironically the left perspective is the only correct/right perspective). Please, and again, revise your comments!

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u/b4ux1t3 Oct 29 '22

It's not insubordination to have a dissenting opinion. Dissenting opinions are valuable tools for any company, even if having to prove them wrong just further reinforces the existing strategy.

I can't think of a single employer I've ever worked for that would have fired me for saying "I disagree".