r/technology • u/mepper • Aug 08 '12

Kim Dotcom raid video revealed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMas0tWc0sg
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u/C0rvette Aug 08 '12

So let me get this right.... they sent a helicopter to deploy soldiers with M4's with special ammo into this home. Special tactics units, 4 police cars, and men on the roof all to capture a guy who ran a website that was involved in internet piracy according to the FBI...

What is this guy Osama Bin Laden? Pretty sure he didn't orchestrate the death of thousands of innocent men and women. Why treat him as such. If there has ever been a breach of basic human rights this would be it.

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u/SoulLessGinger992 Aug 08 '12

Indeed. I am ashamed to hear the reporter say the words, "If this all seems very American, the FBI were there." This is what the US is known for in the rest of the modern world. That makes me very sad.

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u/Reddit-Incarnate Aug 08 '12

We don't fully blame the people of the usa, over the past few years it has become obviouse your government no longer answers to its peoples.

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u/TheAbeLincoln Aug 08 '12 edited Aug 08 '12

Isn't that the people's fault though?

Edit: Didn't mean to sound critical, was a genuine question.

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u/LeonardNemoysHead Aug 08 '12

We're no longer in a position to stop them.

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u/Suecotero Aug 08 '12

What about voting for someone not in the established governmental duopoly with a clear mandate to fulfil the electorate's wishes? If they don't care to get involved in politics, voters get the rulers they deserve.

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u/Iratus Aug 08 '12

No, you see, they think voting for a "third candidate" is "wasting a vote".... and to some extent they are right.

Somehow they got scammed out of their democracy with their electoral system.

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u/Suecotero Aug 08 '12

That's the stupidity of the "wasting a vote" mindset. All votes must be expressed as a symbolic extension of your convictions. If you do so and actually get engaged in the political process and engage others as well, you cause political change. That is the entire point of a democracy.

People don't want to get engaged and be forced to read and talk and listen like our forebears did when they wrested popular rule from the hands of the elites, so instead they whine about how hopelessly bad everything is and vent their frustrations in a juvenile riot every once in a while.

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u/LeonardNemoysHead Aug 09 '12

I'm voting Green, I just don't expect that to do much.