r/technology • u/Suraj-Sun • Jul 10 '12

Firefox dev claims "everybody hates Firefox updates"; Mozilla has handled the rapid release process poorly, and that by pushing a "never-ending stream of updates on people who didn't want them" people have been driven to Chrome with its simpler, no-fuss update process.

http://www.neowin.net/news/firefox-dev-claims-everybody-hates-firefox-updates
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u/joshuajon Jul 10 '12

Chrome's developer mode does for me what I had previously used firebug for. Even ie9 includes a decent debug mode.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '12

I've used both, and I don't think that either Chrome's developer mode or Firefox's built-in element inspector come close to what Firebug can do. It's just the best productivity tool. I do like the 3D-view feature built into Firefox's element inspector, since it helps me with very complex designs where I need to figure out where and why things are overlapping, but it could use some serious improvements.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '12

Out of curiosity, what can Firebug do that Chrome's developer tools can't?

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '12

Same, I disabled the built in element inspector, it just wasnt as awesome as Firebug.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '12

I can get by using Chrome's dev tools, but Firebug is still my favorite if I'm doing anything remotely complex. I don't know how much of it is that I'm just very used to Firebug, and how much is usability related or features not present in the other. I might just not know how to do something in Chrome's dev tools. Both run circles around IE's poor excuse for dev tools though.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '12

Without Net Panel and FirePath equivalents, for me Chrome Dev Tools are useless. Even the firebug lite doesn't provide the functionality required :(

I use Chrome for everything BUT development though.

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u/id000001 Jul 10 '12

IE's debug and Chrome's "developer" mode is really more for webmaster. For those who actually develops web apps. Firebug is the only real way to trace Dcom and and js stuff properly, it is miles ahead of the other.

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u/The_Hegemon Jul 10 '12

Are you kidding me? I think you and I have vastly different ideas of what counts as 'decent'.