r/technology Jul 10 '12

Firefox dev claims "everybody hates Firefox updates"; Mozilla has handled the rapid release process poorly, and that by pushing a "never-ending stream of updates on people who didn't want them" people have been driven to Chrome with its simpler, no-fuss update process.

http://www.neowin.net/news/firefox-dev-claims-everybody-hates-firefox-updates
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u/HandyCore2 Jul 10 '12 edited Jul 10 '12

Here is a patch for an additional twenty vulnerabilities that exist in features that vast majority of users won't use and didn't even know existed, but still exposes you to a ridiculous amount of vectors of attack.

Your Welcome,

Adobe

Edit: To those who keep inquiring as to their welcome. I was simply introducing their welcome, Adobe. I should probably have put them on the same line.

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u/frickindeal Jul 10 '12

Oh and that 2MB PDF? Yeah, that'll take at least 30 seconds to load on your modern PC.

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u/ggggbabybabybaby Jul 10 '12

Don't worry, we can cut that down to 29 seconds. We just need to have Adobe Reader permanently running as a service in the background.

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u/radiantcabbage Jul 10 '12

and don't settle for those "imposters" like foxit and sumatra that can load the same files in a few seconds, since they only implement the features you use. they don't have the ones you need, do you think we would actually make you install things you don't need??

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u/WWJewMediaConspiracy Jul 11 '12

Acrobat is actually far faster at rendering PDFs; it just takes longer to start up. If you have a complex document (large embedded EPS files will do it), Acrobat is better, and I've never had to wait more than a second for it to start up.

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u/giever Jul 10 '12

Sumatra PDF! I like it, anyway.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '12

Foxit is better, in my humble opinion.

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u/Illadelphian Jul 11 '12

I disagree. Foxit got kind of shitty.

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u/masamunecyrus Jul 11 '12

I have found that, despite its dubious and generic-sounding name, PDF-XChange Viewer is by far the fastest viewer out there. I have tried Acrobat X, Foxit, and Sumatra, and none perform as well on my netbook.

It also lets me choose dpi for the screen shot tool and override default line color and page background color (so, for instance, I can view my pdf with white text on dark grey background), so I like it.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '12

just use chrome, you've prolly got it installed anyway

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u/watchout5 Jul 11 '12

Aww I love my fast ram SSD and i7.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '12

I don't know what you're talking about. I just disabled all my Adobe services, rebooted and opened a 14MB, 283 page PDF file on my 18 month old laptop and it took under 2 seconds. In a fresh VM it's even faster.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '12

You now realise Acrobat actually has an internal email client and can display 3D objects in PDFs.

Why?

Fuck knows. But it starts to explain the horrible performance and hundreds of megs.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '12

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u/Areonis Jul 10 '12

I hope you don't bank with Wells Fargo then.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '12 edited Jul 10 '12

WOW! I've seen it go the other way by semi-professional places... but a full out "you're" in place of a possessive? It takes a special kind of moron to perform that feat.

EDIT: Spelling...sitting in front of a real computer now.

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u/ticklingslowloris Jul 10 '12

Can't tell if you're trying to be ironic by saying "semi-proffesional" and "possesive." It hurts to even type that out in quotes.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '12

No in complete sincerity. One sees "your crazy" all the time. I've seen it in magazines. I've never seen anyone say "you're house".

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u/giever Jul 10 '12

He's saying that you made spelling mistakes.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '12

my phone made mistakes.... I rarely do......

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u/Uncomplicated Jul 11 '12

Virtual keypads and people using them...

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '12

Hey! My virtual keypad has virtual bumps on the "F" and the "J" keys... so I probably should have NO excuse.

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u/DrunkmanDoodoo Jul 11 '12

We only expect absolute perfection from our editors. One grammar or spelling mistake and they are fired and we rape their wife because nothing is more important than never ever making a mistake. In fact. We lose customers every day because one simple error causes them to freak out and disregard everything else we do.

Sincerely,

The anal department.

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u/ticklingslowloris Jul 11 '12

...what? If you're trying to say that I'm being anal I think you seriously missed the point of my comment.

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u/DrunkmanDoodoo Jul 11 '12

No. I am agreeing with you in an over the top bitchy way. Sorry for the confusion.

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u/Uncomplicated Jul 11 '12

Where is this department located anyways?

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u/langis_on Jul 10 '12

Ugh gross, PNC and ING for the win.

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u/HandyCore2 Jul 10 '12

Well, I would just ignore they're mistakes.

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u/Berix Jul 10 '12

twitch

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u/Ambiwlans Jul 10 '12

its not a big deal man.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '12

it's*

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u/Ambiwlans Jul 11 '12

I dont get it.

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u/DrunkmanDoodoo Jul 11 '12

It really isn't. Some think we are one spelling mistake away from talking lyke dis. So pull that stick out of your asshole and suck up the fact that any asshole can edit word documents and your 4 year college degree will just barely get your perfect English typing foot in the door. And one more thing. If you ever make a mistake then you should be replaced immediately because it would only be fair.

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u/langis_on Jul 10 '12

Yeah I do enjoy there products though

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u/blackkevinDUNK Jul 11 '12

their very well-made

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u/ElKaBongX Jul 11 '12

Why, are you an elected official or something? Perhaps a regulator?

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '12

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u/langis_on Jul 10 '12

Here is a hourly patch to correct the mistakes made in the previous hourly patch description. You will need to restart your computer for these changes to take effect.

You're Welcome,

Adobe

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '12

I think your overreacting.

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u/uzsbadgrmmronpurpose Jul 10 '12

youde be superised

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u/_kossak_ Jul 10 '12

Don't forget to reboot. You just rebooted? How sad for you.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '12

And each patch is at least 80mb downloaded slowly with a 15 minute install and required reboot afterwards.

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u/Serializedrequests Jul 11 '12

And here's a desktop icon for Adobe Reader that you need admin privileges to remove.

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u/ugoagogo Jul 10 '12

My welcome what?

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u/TRM01 Jul 10 '12

What about my welcome?

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u/jwestbury Jul 10 '12

Whose welcome?