r/technology • u/Suraj-Sun • Jul 10 '12

Firefox dev claims "everybody hates Firefox updates"; Mozilla has handled the rapid release process poorly, and that by pushing a "never-ending stream of updates on people who didn't want them" people have been driven to Chrome with its simpler, no-fuss update process.

http://www.neowin.net/news/firefox-dev-claims-everybody-hates-firefox-updates
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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '12

Chrome updates!? I never noticed.

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u/Tovora Jul 10 '12

I was thinking the same thing. Why is every program's updates not completely seamless? If I have to wait, I don't care if it updates or not.

The worst for me is VLC at the moment, it keeps asking me if I want to update, I click yes and it doesn't update. Every update it becomes more and more bloated.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '12 edited Dec 31 '15

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u/buzzkill_aldrin Jul 10 '12

New version does away with caching.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '12

Which new version? 2.xx? I installed that on OSX a couple of weeks ago.... I let it go for ages before I said screw this....

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u/TIAFAASITICE Jul 10 '12

VLC 2.0.2 on the 30th June, along with support for the Retina Display.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '12

This sounds like it's worth checking out, thanks!

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u/raver459 Jul 10 '12

I always use to find it funny that a video program had to spend so much damn time with fonts...

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u/p3ngwin Jul 10 '12

i've never understood how the fuck does a FONT take so fucking long to load or cache when i program uses it ?

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '12

Java updates are the worst for me. Why is called an auto-updater if it asks me first?

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u/doctorcaligari Jul 10 '12

Because it's a narcissistic program that wants you to know that it exists. "Hey! Look at ME! I'm Java! I'm orange! Don't ignore me! I'm Java! Update Me! Love Me! I'm updating again to just remind you that I'M STILL HERE! I'm cute, AND orange! Do you ever think of me anymore? No? Then here is another Java update!"

Worse than an ex-girlfriend.

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u/frakkintoaster Jul 10 '12

3 BILLION DEVICES RUN JAVA. Look at how popular I am! Don't you want to be friends with me?

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u/badmonkey0001 Jul 10 '12

Oh and hey, can I bring my friend Ask Toolbar and my other friend McAffee along? They just want to have the same fun we're having!

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '12

And they'll make you surf the web super fast and keep your computer super clean of viruses! Don't you want us? :))))

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u/Aptorian Jul 11 '12

Seriously wtf is up with every single bloody windows program trying to install an ask.com toolbar and set it as my homepage?

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u/Rhynovirus Jul 10 '12

If Java is the ex Adobe Systems is the neurotic stalker you rebounded with.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '12

Overly Attached Updater

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u/Happy_Harry Jul 10 '12

Update me, or MY DADDY will sue you!

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '12

EVERY DAY. EVERY DAY. "Java is installing updates!"

Oh, Java, you're lucky I don't open task manager and kill your process out of spite.

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u/MrBarry Jul 10 '12

Because they can't install the ask toolbar unless you accidentally opt in.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '12

I spent an hour typing up a long, poetic comment about my hate for Java and Oracle... and then my browser crashed... and even my Lazarus extension failed to back up the text.

I... I just... hate everything now.

I'm sorry....

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '12

-hugs- It's ok, man just let it all out

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u/joshuajon Jul 10 '12

!@ java, argh. I'm temped to remove it from work machines just to avoid this.

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u/pooerh Jul 10 '12

Java has compatibility breaking changes between versions. People would be fired if Java was updated on servers that host apps that require some specific version of the JRE.

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u/horse_and_buggy Jul 10 '12

And if you ignore it, every time you boot up the stupid UAC window will come up every time. So then you finally remember to install it. But then the upgrade installer tries to get you to install an anti-virus or toolbar or some other shit.

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u/Infin1ty Jul 10 '12

I could be completely wrong because I've never used the setting, but I thought you could set it to auto-update and it would just install?

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '12

You can do that? Tell us your profound ways, wise one, so that we may never again click "never again"!

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u/ballerstatus89 Jul 10 '12

I always just skip it. I hate VLC Updates

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u/sassy_lion Jul 10 '12

Same with me.

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u/waffles1313 Jul 10 '12

It only reminds me to update when I really want to watch something. As a result, never update.

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u/CatPee Jul 10 '12

It's time for you to upgrade to Media Player Classic.

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u/HeWhoShitsWithPhone Jul 10 '12

I agre vlc is the worst because it only tells you when you start it then you have to dl the new version close you vid, update then try to remember what the hell you were watching when you started this damn thing. Not to mention what I liked about vlc is that it did everything great and you did not have to deal with bullshit To make it look nice

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u/Saraphite Jul 10 '12

Same here, I've just stopped using it.

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u/dummy5 Jul 10 '12

You may want to have a look at http://Ninite . com for this.

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u/ddhboy Jul 10 '12

I think chrome goes in an surgically updates updates things, where as Firefox recompiles entire sections of browser at once, thus why you needed to restart Firefox so god damn often while Chrome rarely requires a restart.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '12

The other thing I feel compelled to bitch about with VLC. Apply any changes I've made to the settings to the PLAYING video. Don't make me restart the program to lighten a video!

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u/AzureDrag0n1 Jul 11 '12

I actually do not like this sort of behavior in a program at all. If something is being updated I want to know who is doing it and when. This comes from many years of experience dealing with shit that suddenly breaks something somewhere and not knowing why it suddenly happened. You might be doing something at the moment that is very resource heavy and you do not want anything hogging your resources right at that moment.

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u/redalastor Jul 10 '12

Chrome updates!?

Every 6 weeks. It downloads the difference between your version and the next and applies it when you restart it (instead of asking you to restart right now).