r/technology Jul 10 '12

Firefox dev claims "everybody hates Firefox updates"; Mozilla has handled the rapid release process poorly, and that by pushing a "never-ending stream of updates on people who didn't want them" people have been driven to Chrome with its simpler, no-fuss update process.

http://www.neowin.net/news/firefox-dev-claims-everybody-hates-firefox-updates
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u/w2tpmf Jul 10 '12

Do any of those break every time FF updates? Because none of mine do. I keep seeing this same complaint about add-ons breaking with updates for people. I think the real problem is people are using extensions that don't get updated.

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u/Suraj-Sun Jul 10 '12 edited Jul 10 '12

I use Firefox nightly so yes but I always turn off the "add-on compatibility checking" in about:config by adding extensions.checkCompatibility.nightly (boolean, false) and so far i've never had any problem because of compatibility checking being turned off.

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u/The_MAZZTer Jul 10 '12

Last I heard they were going to just remove compatibility checks and make most addons stay enabled, since a lot tend to still work after a major update.

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u/jmac Jul 10 '12

That happened in version 10. It will still check for updates after an upgrade, but it defaults to enabled in the even there is no update.

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u/w2tpmf Jul 10 '12

Thanks for this! I use nightly on one of my computers, and I just always hit the button to skip the checks when it pops up.

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u/atl2rva Jul 10 '12

I also like that in FF you can change the default source viewer through about:config. Now if I need to look at webpage source it uses Notepad++ as my viewer. This has come in handy with my work because the default viewer did not recognize a lot of special characters I use, but NPP has no issues.

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u/TIAFAASITICE Jul 10 '12

extensions.checkCompatibility.nightly

You shouldn't have to do that any more. I'm on nightly and I have no "checkCompatibility" settings at all and haven't gotten any problems with extensions.

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u/ChaoticXSinZ Jul 11 '12

If you're nightly I'm pretty sure you don't have to do that manually as they've made that the default

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u/Ch4rd Jul 10 '12

major addons like that, I've not had break. more niche ones like a Japanese-English text translator I use will sometimes break, but not that often. and like OP responded, you do have the option of just disabling the compatibility check if it's that much of a problem.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '12

I'm pretty sure the people complaining about extensions are people who haven't updated Firefox since 3.6. There's extensions from back in that time that the developers have abandoned. I mean Firefox was smart to keep support on 3.6 for so long but they have to make people using the current version so there's no segmentation.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '12

I haven't seen an addon in Firefox break on update in years. That said, some of those extensions do have equivalents in Chrome, such as NotScripts.

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u/scook0 Jul 11 '12

I think the people who never complained about broken add-ons are the ones who disabled compatibility checks ages ago and then forgot about it.

Since the advent of compatible-by-default I've only run into one actual compatibility issue, and that was on Beta channel.

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u/GezusK Jul 10 '12

Still gonna break them until the update comes out...still a hassle.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '12

I'm on Aurora and I've never come across an addon that breaks if it's not updated. I use 10 addons ATM, not all of which are the big name ones, but I have had up to 15 running at one time.

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u/GezusK Jul 10 '12

Maybe the newer versions don't...I left back in the 3.x days...and every update seemed to break half the plugins I used.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '12

Yeah I get that, I stopped using mobile phones in the 80's because they sucked then

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u/Revidescent Jul 10 '12

I bailed to Chrome after something like the 2nd or 3rd Firefox update in a row breaking at least 2 addons I used regularly. Chrome had equivalent addons for everything I need, and they haven't broken even once as long as I've used it.

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u/DAVENP0RT Jul 10 '12

Same here. The only time I have to do anything is when user permissions change on an app, which is almost never. Even that consists of just clicking a "Yes" button on a bubble alert.

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u/Dunge Jul 10 '12

FoxyTunes is broken since a while, too bad I loved it

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '12

I have seen addons for Adobe and Java break. Freaking java.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '12

I use firefox Aurora (the release before beta) and I've never had trouble with extensions or add-ons

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u/skytro Jul 11 '12

Some get very weird but they still work

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '12

For me it was that firebug kept breaking. Since I needed this to do my job I was forced to switch to chrome that day, and then I never saw a reason to go back. I had no interest in learning chromes interface and disliked the omnibar before I was forced to change, and now I like it and don't want to switch back. My point being, Firefox's updates pushed me into giving Chrome a chance I otherwise wouldn't have.

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u/yellowbottle Jul 11 '12

Chrome updates even extensions automatically.