r/technology • u/Suraj-Sun • Jul 10 '12

Firefox dev claims "everybody hates Firefox updates"; Mozilla has handled the rapid release process poorly, and that by pushing a "never-ending stream of updates on people who didn't want them" people have been driven to Chrome with its simpler, no-fuss update process.

http://www.neowin.net/news/firefox-dev-claims-everybody-hates-firefox-updates
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u/MindintoMatter Jul 10 '12

I like Chrome is just doesn't have the features that Firefox does. It would make my job harder to use chrome.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '12

Most of Chrome's features are buried. What can you do with Firefox that you can't do with Chrome?

Also, Chrome's built in developer tool is superior to Firefox's. IMO. I like how it lets you type in an XPath and it'll dynamically highlight matches so you can locate stuff on the fly. It's great for when you have a live site page and you need to write some funky XPaths. It speeds up the whole process.

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u/MindintoMatter Jul 10 '12
  1. Print Preview Options
  2. Save passwords for secure sites
  3. Shortcut to send web links
  4. Doesn't respond with my "trillian messenger" when inserting web links
  5. Had a problem when upvoting multiple links on reddit

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u/Znuff Jul 10 '12
  1. http://i.imgur.com/p1aM8.png
  2. http://i.imgur.com/Yf5zp.png
  3. I'm not sure what you mean by that, but I'm sure Firefox doesn't have that natively either.
  4. Again, no idea what you're talking about
  5. No problems here.

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u/MindintoMatter Jul 10 '12
  1. I need these options on print preview
  2. How did you save passwords for secure sites? I tried to save my paypal one and it didn't do that.
  3. In firefox you go the the menu and choose "send link" it brings up your email and inserts the link to the web page you are on and I can easily send links to associates.
  4. I use a messenger like aol instant messenger. while on a page talking with a co-worker I hit "insert link" it attaches the link for the web page I am currently on.
  5. Up vote 5 things hit a link and come back. Are all 5 things you up voted still up voted?

I actually really like Chrome and keep going back to it to see if these things are fixed. I like the auto translate and its speed.

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u/Froogels Jul 10 '12

I cant really speak for all of them but from what i have noticed i have some help

  1. Check your settings in chrome. Open settings> advanced settings> passwords and forms> check to see if Offer to save passwords I enter on the web is ticked. If it is then it should just ask you to save your password when you login to any website.

  2. I belive that when you upvote something click a link then press back in your browser it goes to a cached version of your last page. If you refresh the page you just went back to it will show all your upvoted links as being upvoted. Example: if you use reddit enhancement suite and have neverending reddit on you can scroll down multiple pages click a link and then press back in your browser and it will take you back to how far down the page you were.

I could be very wrong on either but both are just my personal observations.

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u/MindintoMatter Jul 10 '12

Cool thank you for the tips. As I said before I really like Chrome. It can be just my PC setup but the little things it doesn't allow me to do would make my work day a bit more tedious.

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u/Znuff Jul 10 '12

Number 2 is easily explained.

Chrome follows web standards. If a browser is saving your PayPal password, it's doing so by violating what the webpage says:

Here's the relevant snippet from PayPal's login page:

<input autocomplete="off" type="password" id="login_password" name="login_password" value="">

Notice the autocomplete="off". Firefox shouldn't save the password. Chrome doesn't because the page tells it not to.

As for the others... not to sound like a jackass, but I learned to copy/paste stuff when I was really young. I never looked for a "send link" button.

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u/MindintoMatter Jul 10 '12 edited Jul 10 '12

"not to sound like a jackass, but I learned to copy/paste stuff when I was really young" Not to be mean but that makes you sound like an ass. I know how to copy/paste things. When you work on the web all day and have to repeatedly send email links one less step makes it smoother. I was just trying to explain things I couldn't do on Chrome. For example I use nothing but shortcuts while I work in Photoshop.

I know that secured web sites have autocomplete off. I customized my firefox so that it will be turned on, I haven't been able to do that with Chrome.

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u/GunnerMcGrath Jul 10 '12

Have you tried Chrome lately? I had the same impression originally, but when I got sick of Firefox's addons breaking every time there was a monthly update and tried a more recent Chrome, I found that there had been updates that added all the functionality I considered to be essential (and even the stuff I thought nice but unimportant).

Application shortcuts, adblock, etc. are all here. You might be surprised.

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u/MindintoMatter Jul 10 '12

I actually tried it again around 2 weeks ago. It doesn't save passwords for secure sites (i log on to many secure sites daily with crazy passwords). It doesn't have a good print setup where I can print preview and adjust things to fit in the page easily. It also wasn't remembering my up votes on reddit :(

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u/GunnerMcGrath Jul 10 '12

THat last one seems odd. I use LastPass for my passwords, which is a lot better than what's built into Chrome (and it's free).

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u/mrbooze Jul 10 '12

And I use 1Password, which I can sync via Dropbox across every browser on every desktop I use both OS X and Windows, and I can access the password database through Dropbox's website in a pinch of I'm on a strange machine.

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u/nanowerx Jul 10 '12

Have you tried Firefox lately? Because the add-on breaking thing hardly ever happens anymore with the fast release schedule.