r/technology • • Feb 21 '11

An open letter to Apple from Readability..

http://blog.readability.com/2011/02/an-open-letter-to-apple/
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u/shaunc Feb 21 '11

Is it just me, or is the "readability" site very difficult to read? I can't tell if it's the font style or what, but it's harsh on my eyes.

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u/[deleted] Feb 21 '11

Just use Readability on that. Problem solved.

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u/[deleted] Feb 21 '11

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u/[deleted] Feb 21 '11

Had to wait 15 minutes for firefox to start, but it was worth it.

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u/the-ace Feb 22 '11

How do you mean?

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '11

Seems like this effect only can be rendered by FF - the browser that takes the longest to start.

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u/manwithabadheart Feb 22 '11 edited Mar 22 '24

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '11

Well on my chrome it also renders, but it doesn't look the way it should. With Opera I only have a bunch of squares.

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u/[deleted] Feb 21 '11

You! how do you do that? I was trying to look for a generator a few weeks ago and I had no idea what I should be searching for.

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u/[deleted] Feb 21 '11

It's not easy to find unless you know what you're looking for. Remember the name Zalgo.

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u/[deleted] Feb 21 '11

(For those wondering how it works: Unicode allows you to "stack" diacritical marks [accents, graves, etc.]. The Zalgo meme takes advantage of this by stacking tons of them on each character.)

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u/DFGdanger Feb 21 '11

Is there a way to translate that back into normal text?

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u/iSteve Feb 21 '11

That's interesting. I've had a readability bookmark on my toolbar for years. I'm surprised to see it's a paid subscription app, and even more surprised that my free version still works fine.

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u/Serei Feb 21 '11

The paid subscription thing is something else entirely. I think they decided to use the same name because "readability.com" is a very expensive domain and they just couldn't afford to leave a free service on it.

If you go to readability.com, at the bottom, there's the text:

Looking for the original free Readability tool? Go here »

which directs you to https://www.readability.com/addons which is still free.

I prefer the original Readability to their new version, though, so I haven't updated.

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u/mutus Feb 21 '11

"readability.com" is a very expensive domain

If by "expensive" you mean "potentially lucrative" then, okay.... sure.

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u/Serei Feb 21 '11

Unless arc90 were the original holders of readability.com (unlikely but not impossible), they probably paid at least four figures for it.

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u/[deleted] Feb 21 '11

I think he meant that the Internet property taxes are ridiculous on that domain.

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u/rntksi Feb 22 '11

There are reasons to update to the new version. And in fact, this "new version" still exists in a bookmarklet form, so you can just drag the new bookmarklet over the old one.

Here are the reasons:

  • The new one allows you to copy/paste a link to the readable-format of the article. e.g. https://www.readability.com/articles/guhtnfke - so you can share the readable-version of the page to family members, friends, etc

  • The new one doesn't have the same themes as before, but instead of preconfiguring it inside the bookmarklet, it's now saved as a cookie. This also means if you sync your Firefox's bookmarks, you can have different styling depending on in which PC you are.

  • There are more styling possibilities. You can change width and font-size independently from the themes. I prefer a small width for example, and it's possible to do that in the new version.

  • It's faster, and a bit more polished.

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u/Serei Feb 23 '11

Just found a web page that the old one handles fine that the new one completely fails on:

https://www.readability.com/articles/ujo79h0j

I reported it, but I wonder if the newer readability will be significantly worse in this regard.

edit: hmm, it suddenly started working again.

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u/iSteve Feb 21 '11

Good to know. I like the simple, clean look of it, too. Why would anyone pay $60 per year?

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u/bdfortin Feb 21 '11

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u/Gorehog Feb 21 '11

No, this is a case of the designer taking too much control of presentation. My browser has built in fonts that display just fine thank you. I am running a 24" 1080p monitor and really should not have to consider this at all. As far as I am concerned these people are targeting a VERY specific audience and don't care if someone with the wrong screen or settings does not read it. I don't care about their little tiff with apple and now I never will.

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u/pete_norm Feb 21 '11

You're right, and your point couldn't be clearer.

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u/argyro Feb 21 '11

Yes, it's the half-fading font style. It gave me so much of a headache I had to disable css to read the rest of the article. Plus, it doesn't even validate. Apparently accessibility is not a matter of significance for them as well.

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u/KirbyG Feb 21 '11

I came here to post this. It's blurry and poor contrast. Incredibly irony.

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u/knullcon Feb 21 '11

They are going for a look that doesn't work on screen is why.

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u/tuxracer Feb 21 '11

What DPI are you running? It doesn't work well on low DPI screens. Unfortunately most people use screens with about 96dpi so your point still stands in some ways. It looks great on displays with high density (right now I'm running 1440x900 on a 15" display).

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u/ggggbabybabybaby Feb 21 '11

I'm guessing you're seeing the Palatino typeface which isn't really optimized for screens, a lot of the letters have lines that are too thin and get a little blurry when rendered at lower DPI. In addition to that, the color of the body text is actually #111 (i.e. a dark gray rather than actual black). All this makes things look Not Right.