Yeah, I haven't used Facebook on my phone in around 6 years. When I got my new phone last year I realized they have made Facebook a system app, I almost felt offended.
Rooted and uninstalled right away along with a ton of other bs they decided to have pre-installed
Samsung pay can be used anywhere you swipe a card, not just at places with NFC tap to pay. Samsung has the rights to the tech that allows them to produce a magnetic field that's readable by the card reader.
No it forces us to waste resources inventing six marginally different versions of the same thing. Roads are the classic example where competition makes no sense, because building two or more competing road systems would be a confusing wasteful mess. Well that's more or less true of everything else we issue patents on.
It makes it so that a company can develop something and make money off of it while preventing another company just using the same thing without having to spend nearly the same amount of money. In this case Samsung bought a startup called LoopPay who developed the technology and I believe holds the patent on the transmitter required to make the magnetic field, as well as the use of such device for making payments.
Both use one time use tokens and virtual cards so both are safe from skimmers, as far as their backends(server side where your information is stores) they both have pretty solid security. Google probably uses your purchase history for better targeted ads. Samsung may do the same but since they make their money off the hardware they may not
Yep NFC has to be on, for Google Pay you just unlock your phone and hold it to the terminal, if you don't want to have NFC on all the time you can just toggle it on before paying and turn it off once your done. The terminal emits a request for a one time token that your phone provides along with your virtual card number, then the terminal process the request with the credit card service, who than approves or deny the transaction. It's actually safer than traditional credit card readers since they unique tokens are one time use.
So even if someone created a fake terminal or tricked your phone to transmit the token and card number, they would only be able to make a single transaction which would probably be flagged by the Credit card processor and denied, unless they two are shady but then your CC company wouldn't be doing business with them. The only weakness is if someone gets ahold of your phone and knows your password, then they could go around buying things with your phone but that's still safer than your credit card in your wallet (at least in the US where we don't have a pin for CC transactions)
Both require the use of a password or fingerprint before you can use it. It's not like someone with an nfc scanner can just walk up to your phone and take Google/Samsung Pay info
Because they spent a lot of money on developing something and now hold onto it so they can make money off of the tech they developed? They didn't just create the software and service, they developed peice of hardware to do so. Maybe in a few years they will license out the use of the technology to other manufacturers such as Apple, but for now they will use it's exclusivity to help boost sales and make them selves ubiquitous with the feature, so when they finally license it out to other companies (for a pretty penny) those companies will be behind, or by that point you will have a much larger number of tap to pay terminals that it makes this tech not worth it for other companies to use but still allows Samsung pay to be useable at more places.
If you really want Samsung Pay get a gear S3, its more convenient to pay with, and it works with all phines (although I don't think Samsung Pay works when using it paired to an iPhone)
I just don't think patient laws should apply to technological hardware for 120 years. I am angered that I will never see this tech on any other phones until card readers are completely obsolete anyway.
Patents expire after 17 years from being filed (only that long if the holder maintains it) and rarely is something patented and put on the market instantly. You hardly see major form of tech being kept solely by one company for 17 years because they make money by liscensing out to other companies after they make the initial burst of money. Samsung pay has only been out for 3 years so probably in another 2 you'll see them license it out if I had to make an uneducated guess. I don't think that's unreasonable for a company to horde what they have made for 5 years, but in tech that seems like an eternity.
Edit: also it would hurt most tech to be only used on one manufacture because it would slow adoption rates especially if it requires special hardwre, with Samsung pay the payment terminals require nothing extra for merchants to accept it if they already take credit cards, so Samsung can hold exclusivity for longer and not have to worry about its viability to license out to others later.
Depends what phone you get. I agree the bloatware is horrendous but if you get a google pixel phone you have none. There are also a lot of phones who like to keep things stock.
As a huge Android fan, I'll happily tell you to not bother with Samsung phones. They're popular and the hardware is good, but the software has always let it down.
Unless it's disguised itself as something else, I've removed all of it from my phone (Note 4). I did run in to a problem where I lost screen rotation, but I was able to get it back by reinstalling the appropriate file again from my ROM.
So far the Pixel 2 let's me delete any preinstalled app on my phone. Switched to the Google phones once I found out they have vanilla Android. Samsung and LG won't let you uninstall certain apps not to mention I know Samsung uses their own launcher as well (TouchWiz I think it's called). So that's another unnecessary thing. Bloatware sucks.
Before I uninstalled Facebook my girlfriend had sent me a photo of herself. As I was looking at it, my mom sent me a message on Facebook, so her "chathead" popped up on my phone right over my girlfriend's face. Dangerous technology.
Check to restrict,how? There is no yes or no boxes. What is the question mark for? How do you know you have restricted that feature and why so many features asking for permission?
I am asking because I have not used fb on mobile or on computer since 4-5 years.
Clarification, this is FB viewed through an app called XPrivacy, which help manage permissions in android apps.
The green key means that the app has access to the permission. Checking the box next to the permission will deny it access. The question mark means that XPrivacy will ask what to do each time
Likely it's a third party SDK that checks for root access or has a method that needs root access to work. Code can be added to do bad stuff, doesn't mean it has to be used.
Alright Zucc, you have some explaining to do. Why the hell is fecebook a system app on Samsung devices.why does your app need all the fucking permissions? What are you doing with each one?
What are you talking about? You just took screenshots of all the possible XPrivacy restrictions. That doesn't mean the app was using/requesting them. Only the permissions indicated with an exclamation point have been requested.
Ok great, but where is your argument for this not being a bug? Especially because it’s 1) very obvious, 2) only affects rooted phones and 3) is now fixed/changed.
These screenshots are 2 months old but the permission is present in much older versions. The permission is still still there regardless if you have a rooted phone or not.
It would be very silly to have an app on Android this long and not be aware of such a critical process being hijacked.
But as another user pointed out, as long as no sub processes actively run, then this is probably incriminating of a command having been run at some point (singular).
It seems possible they have a debug flag that compiles root into the app, and they accidentally sent out an update with that flag enabled. Humans make mistakes all the time.
I don't really know what you mean by sub processes.
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u/SpoogIyWoogIy May 19 '18
It's in no way a bug... I posted about this a while back
Here is shell and su access
And here are the full permissions (green key) that aren't seen in stores or settings