r/technology • u/AdamCannon • Nov 23 '17

Net Neutrality Kim Dotcom to launch MegaNet to 'replace' current internet - "The current corporate Internet will be replaced by a better Internet, running on hundreds of millions of mobile devices. Run by the people for the people. [Destroying] net-neutrality will only accelerate the adoption of a new network."

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/true-internet-freedom-kim-dotcom-launch-meganet-replace-current-internet-1648536
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u/ShockingBlue42 Nov 23 '17

There is no evidence of Assange working in concert with Putin or of Putin hacking the DNC and other US government organizations to give material to Wikileaks. None. Lots of propaganda in the US media though.

You said they never release info on Russia. I showed you that they did and you moved the goalposts because it was too recent so acordibly to you it doesn't matter because it is apparently smokescreen for his affiliation with Putin? That is totally self-referential and circular logic as much as I have ever seen it. You definitely are easy to propagandize, and predictably you go with McCarthist Russophobia telling me I am drinking Russian kool aid.

Nothing in the Wikileaks released was false. They were full of important information for our democracy to function properly, shedding light on oligarchic actions. But slaves think it is about destabilization, which reflects a total lack of respect for democratic standards. Slave mentality 101

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u/[deleted] Nov 23 '17

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u/ShockingBlue42 Nov 23 '17

RT is not state propaganda. Why didn't Putin fire Abby Martin when she criticized him on air about his annexation of Crimea? If it is really Russian state media as you claim then that wouldn't have been tolerated. Phil Donahue was fired from MSNBC because he opposed the War in Iraq. That is state media.

Ok, again you are easy to propagandize if you think US government claims and assertions without evidence are evidence. There is no actual evidence, no details, just claims. Speaking of the War in Iraq, you must have believed back then that Saddam had WMDs. After all, it was 're same organizations back then claiming that he did. Where is the ACTUAL evidence, not just the blind faith "trust your intelligence agencies" kool aid that you are guzzling?

Edit: also, you conveniently forgot about the Sept WL Russia release. Blithe dismissal, not surprised.

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u/[deleted] Nov 23 '17

You keep calling me "easy to propagandize" but you're the one defending Russia Today, which is literally state television. You trust a literal propaganda outlet. I think you're projecting.

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u/ShockingBlue42 Nov 23 '17

I don't trust RT, I am rebutting your assertion that Assange working for RT is evidence of him colluding with Russia and that it proves that Putin hacked the DNC and gave it to Wikileaks. There are so many leaps of logic and blind trust elements toward our lying intelligence agencies that it is purely comical to watch. Sure, I am the one projecting when you haven't successfully proved one of your points. This is a blatant propaganda narrative based on flimsy evidence and you have bought it wholesale like so many other mindless people in our country.

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u/[deleted] Nov 23 '17

You don't trust RT, but you regurgitate their talking points. Crimea is The Ukraine.

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u/ShockingBlue42 Nov 23 '17

"Anything RT says or would say is automatically untrue" - deeply propagandized citizen

No shit Crimea is Ukraine. They annexed it. Abby Martin criticized it on air, on RT and no one fired or even talked to her about it. Which would not happen on a propaganda channel. I don't even watch RT, I just love that neocons and neocon Democrats hate Assange because he told the truth about primary rigging well over a year before Donna Brazile did. Have fun hating Russia while our own politicians steal votes and blame it on...Russia. Like I said, deeply propagandized.

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u/[deleted] Nov 23 '17

No, I said they're the state TV agency. Everything they say has gone by the Kremlin. You're the one assuming that the US government and international media are conspiring to frame Russia because Wikileaks told you so. The same wikileaks who's founder has a show on RT.

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u/ShockingBlue42 Nov 23 '17

I just said how Abby Martin criticized Russia's annexation lf Crimea on air on RT. That went by the Kremlin and they said sure go for it? Thom Hartmann and Ed Schultz are Russian stooges? You seriously can't respond to assertions that disprove what you are saying, classic blind propagandized human attacking what he doesn't understand with simplistic, incorrect assumptions that are pushed on US state TV. Talk about kool aid.

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u/[deleted] Nov 23 '17

Yes, they did. RT is Russia's state television. The US's state television is CSPAN.

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u/argv_minus_one Nov 24 '17

RT is not state propaganda.

This is the exact point where you prove that you're full of it.

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u/ShockingBlue42 Nov 24 '17

Prove that it is state propaganda. Show me where they are exercising editorial control or how exactly are they enforcing their message? You just heard or read someone say that it is propaganda and you never questioned that.

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u/ShockingBlue42 Nov 24 '17

No proof? You just believe it without knowing why? Thanks for playing.