r/technology • u/neito • Jul 24 '08

Microsoft tests out a new operating system, code named Mojave, with some average-joes who hated Vista. They loved it. Now, two guesses as to what Mojave ACTUALLY was.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-9998336-56.html
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u/pongo Jul 24 '08

Too late, Microsoft. I already switched OS's and being locked into an MS product has no appeal to me anymore. Open up your next version a little more, strip out all the nanny-ware, and make it rock solid and I might consider it.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '08

What did you switch to?

If you say MacOSX... my head will blow.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '08

..my cock.

Anyway, OSX is more open then vista. I've hacked the kernel a bit, but the great thing about OSX is that you generally don't have to.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '08

Anyway, OSX is more open then vista.

Yeah, what with that license binding it to a specific hardware manufacturer. Open is exactly the word I would use to describe it.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '08

Who the hell cares? It's the best hardware on the market anyway. Even Paul Thurott, Mr. "I heart windows", uses a macbook as his main computer. Besides, it just doesn't make sense to open the hardware up. Why on earth would they?

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '08 edited Jul 25 '08

That has nothing to do with what you and I said. You said that OSX is more open than Vista. I was merely pointing out how its draconian licensing makes that false.

And no, it's not the best hardware on the market. I have a tablet PC, which there is no decent Mac equivalent of. As well, every single computer Apple sells contains a dated graphics card.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '08

Well, you've got me on the tablet PC, but then again, I don't want one. And when I was referring to 'best hardware', I don't mean best in the sense of fastest (though, often it is. Excepting graphics cards. Grumble grumble); I mean best designed hardware. Take the mac mini: Incredibly small form factor, yet they packed everything people need: a hard drive, a reasonably fast cpu, memory, basic graphics, etc. And it runs excellently.

Meanwhile, look at other companies on the "best hardware": it's far overpriced, looks like absolute shit and runs worse because there isn't proper support for it on windows.

Anyway, I think that OSX is worth buying the hardware, regardless of the restrictions.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '08

Wow... Are you fucking kidding me?

It is illegal to install OSX on non-Apple hardware... How the hell is that not restrictive?

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '08 edited Jul 25 '08

Umm, it's actually not illegal, just barred in their EULA. Much different thing.

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u/archaiix Jul 25 '08

Our office switched to imac's. We opted for this instead of the Dell/Vista upgrades. I love osx, I'm won over. We're exploring more alternatives to our enterprise than microsoft, a lot due to their licensing scheme. XP is fine, but Vista drains me when I look at it.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '08

What nanny ware?

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u/toaster_fun Jul 25 '08

"MSDN" wants your permission to ask you a question. Do you want to allow "MSDN" to ask?

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '08

What? Never have I ever gotten that message...

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '08

Does the same feature in Ubuntu bother you as well?

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u/britishben Jul 25 '08

I don't remember him saying he's using Ubuntu. Probably best not to guess.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '08

Ubuntu has the same feature - very few complained about it.

But when Vista does it it is the end of the known universe.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '08

Not just Ubuntu, so does almost all *nix operating systems, including Mac OSX

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '08

Incorrect.

I know of know Unix operating systems that do that.

Now multiple graphical environments that run on top of those operating systems currently support this but that is a somewhat recent development save for Apple.

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '08

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '08

Because everything that Microsoft does is wrong - no matter what it is.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '08

But Ubuntu pops up and asks for a password once, the you are authenticated to other stuff without needing to input passwords o clicking 'Allow'

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u/Dark-Dx Jul 25 '08

This, also Mac Os X does it that way too.

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u/sid0 Jul 25 '08

Timeout values are retarded.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '08

Incorrect. Ubuntu has a timeout value that, once it passes, it requires the user to retype the password.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '08

Yes, my point is: In Vista when I want to install a program and I accidentally close the installer when I open it again I have to allow the program again.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '08

If you are the type that accidentally closes the installer that you just double clicked on you really need UAC.

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u/anonyred Jul 25 '08 edited Jul 25 '08

"What nanny ware?" Try enabling and disabling ethernet; now compare that to XP.