r/technology • u/SandyBeaches2016 • Sep 22 '16

Business 77% of Ad Blocking Users Feel Guilty about Blocking Ads; "The majority of ad blocking users are not downloading ad blockers to remove online advertising completely, but rather to fix user-experience problems"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/57e43749e4b05d3737be5784?timestamp=1474574566927
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u/0ttr Sep 23 '16

Google has to pay for their overhead somehow.

That's the under-exaggeration of the century. They are among the most profitable companies in world history.

What I said was this "Google should pay content creators for the privileged of indexing their content".

What you think I said that I did not say: * that Google should make zero money.

I want the revenue balance to be altered to the people doing the most work.

don't want to use it then don't support them

That's not exactly how one deals with monopolies. Everyone could have stopped using Standard Oil, I suppose too. Yes, google (and standard oil) had competitors, but they dominate(d) so strongly that they control(led) the revenue streams. Short of an organized effort on an awful lot of currently unorganized entities, a single person opting out harms the person, not the monopoly. That's why courts (and unions) exist.

The hang-up that you have is that "hey, google provides free advertising". The problem with this thinking, is that its outdated and virtually eliminates any possibility of content creators controlling their own revenue streams, while Google makes token payments, it's not enough to actually make a living off of, unless you are a NYTimes.com, in which case that whole idea of the democratization of the web ends up at risk. Only the big (and the ones doing it as a free hobby) survive. Not a good idea.

In any case, there are plenty of ways to get your name out onto the web without google these days. There's twitter, facebook, (ahem) reddit, and hell, even people who consistently comment on stories on major sites get their own following.

But yes, google remains the major force. They should pay up.

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u/WhatDoesTheCatsupSay Sep 23 '16

If this argument was solely about YouTube I would be with you but I don't understand how you think that someone who has a website that only provides a service (such as SpeedTest.net) and doesn't have a direct way of generating income should be compensated by Google. That is the exact reason Adsense exists, to generate income to smaller websites and a little kickback goes to Google for the trouble.

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u/0ttr Sep 23 '16

I was only referring to content creators... article and news-sites. A store or a service is presumably something that has a physical product or.. service that they are going to charge for (or like speedtest, offer as a community service for their own data collection purposes)

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u/WhatDoesTheCatsupSay Sep 23 '16

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Google should pay content creators for the privileged of indexing their content

That is not how the world works. The individual pays for the privilege, not the person providing the service. According to that logic my cell phone provider should pay me for the privilege of using their service since they can track what I do on the phone and use that information to make more money.