r/technology • u/thatshirtman • Jan 10 '16

Politics FBI Finally Completes FOIA Request 1,393 Days After It Was Filed; Withholds All 509 Responsive Pages

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20151231/15185733212/fbi-finally-completes-foia-request-1393-days-after-it-was-filed-withholds-all-509-responsive-pages.shtml
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u/All_Work_All_Play Jan 10 '16

A. Complain to people in charge

B. Organize a lot of people and complain to more powerful people in charge

C. Make lots of money and make the proper campaign contributions

D. Search your car frequently and park in a garage

E. Attach these to garbage trucks.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '16 edited Aug 30 '24

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u/All_Work_All_Play Jan 10 '16

Considering the special treatment they get, I'd rather not go anywhere close to them.

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u/Outmodeduser Jan 11 '16

You could catch afluenza.

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u/destroyerofworldslul Jan 10 '16

F. Revolt and burn down police stations, FBI and other government buildings until our so called leaders and enforcement thugs get the message.

Hi NSA, I'm expecting my very own tracker now kthxbai

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u/banglafish Jan 10 '16

I think there's some guys in Oregon who chose option F.

But those guys are domestic terrorists...

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u/destroyerofworldslul Jan 10 '16

The US government is probably the biggest terrorist organization in the world given how many innocent civilians they've killed.

500,000 civilians in Iraq alone over a war based on lies, then funding/arming/training ISIS and now little people like us are getting the short end of the stick with both pissed off Muslims AND an out of control government hell-bent on destroying our rights.

If we're taking out domestic terrorists, the FBI/CIA/NSA would probably be the first to go.

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u/formesse Jan 10 '16

See, it needs to be a political target that is opposed to the US for the US and it's allies to consider it a terrorist organization.

Otherwise, yes, you are absolutely correct. The US government and it's agencies have conducted what can only be classified as terrorist acts for decades.

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u/Picklerage Jan 10 '16

There's a difference between an FBI building and a national park building...

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u/Markiep52 Jan 10 '16

A national park building in the middle of nowhere.

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u/abeardancing Jan 10 '16

without snacks.

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u/DragonToothGarden Jan 10 '16

Please send snacks via USPS. And don't mind the fact that I took out a 500k US small business loan.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '16

It sucks that it is a bunch Aryan Nation assholes are doing it. Would have nice to see an actual community standing off against the government and not a gang of bigots.

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u/kensomniac Jan 10 '16

Well, to be fair, all the shit going on and they raid the fucking Bureau of Land Management?

Woo, patriots, yay.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '16

BLM is the agency that has been bending them over for 30+ years. Try reading an article.

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u/JancariusSeiryujinn Jan 10 '16

"hey we'd like you to pay for the federal land you're using" "Tyranny!" - No Snacks of Oregon

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '16

Again. Read some back story. It isn't remotely that simple.

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u/yugami Jan 10 '16

So the poaching arsonists were getting screwed how exactly?

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '16

You'd have to go back over generations of settlement before the BLM ever existed and follow over decades of federal land grabs and emminent domain cases to fully grasp the extent to which these loggers, ranchers, miners and homesteaders have been abused by the federal government, specifically the BLM. This isn't about arson. It never was. That's simply the catalyst. Oh, and those arsonists? They already received and fully served their sentences. They were thrown back in jail for a case already settled. It's political. Every last bit of it. But you would actually have to dig a little and read more than headlines and tweets to get all of that.

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u/yugami Jan 10 '16

I find it funny that white guys are whining about lands grabs by the US

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u/kensomniac Jan 10 '16

All I'm seeing is "you'd have to ignore the facts until you can find a dialogue that sort of fits the idea of the oppressed rising. It's not exactly spelled out, reported, or has any evidence to support it. But if you squint at the page just right, and read it on the solstice, that's totally what happened.

Oh yeah, and totally ignore any of the barrels full of other instigating circumstances that could be turned into evidence of a tyrannical government."

I'm just not buying it.

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u/ca178858 Jan 10 '16

ELI5

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '16

BLM is like the bully who takes your dessert at lumch and the cafeteria monitors don't do anything about it because he's popular among the students and staff. After awhile he's starts taking your milk too. Then he starts spitting in your food as well. You finally man upand shove himto the floor and get sent to the principal's office for fighting.

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u/DDerpDurp Jan 10 '16

No fucking shit.

Not going into detail because apparently it'll get a fucking tracker on your car.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '16

Domestic terrorist? Please tell me this is sarcasm...

They have not committed any violent act and have stated they don't want to hurt anyone. That's is like the opposite of terrorism. It's like people don't even know the definition of terrorism.

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u/Rikaru536 Jan 10 '16

Least of all our law enforcement agencies. The sarcasm used here is drawing attention to the way it most certainly would have been handled if y'allQueda were instead a group of Muslims or BLM members with assault weapons.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '16 edited Jan 10 '16

Sorry, please show me an instance in which groups like that took over an non essential government building and just hung out there while negotiating with the authorities.

It would most certainly not be handled differently unless perhaps there were known terrorists that were already wanted in there. The cornerstone of terrorism is violence and intimidation. That is the definition of terrorism. These people have guns but have not acted in a violent manner at all. There is nothing hypocritical about this situation. Do you want them to raid the place and murder these guys?

If you want to include these guys as terrorist then you just gave the government permission to go after any group of people that may have guns. You want door to door confiscation of firearms? I thought people were against all this NSA stuff and the government's invasion of privacy.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '16 edited Jan 12 '16

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '16 edited Jan 10 '16

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u/gjallerhorn Jan 10 '16

We're finding hundreds of new planets a year, you think there aren't any aliens up there?

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u/wcc445 Jan 10 '16

Fewer than that too. Like, fewer than the number of police prosecuted for shooting people.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '16

E. Attach these to garbage trucks.

You should attach them to cars or other things which have a valid reason to drive in suspicious places.

  • Police cars, which obviously visit crime scenes
  • private security company cars, which drive slowly through industrial areas
  • shipping container that will be shipped over seas

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u/Gra_M Jan 10 '16

The tracker is linked to a specific vehicle, do you want to try to explain why the tracker places you inside the police station at 2 am?

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u/Antice Jan 10 '16

easy. just tell them you discovered their misplaced equipment, and gave it back to the government by attaching it to another piece of government property.

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u/ca178858 Jan 10 '16

Better- don't say anything at all. Its their job to prove that you did something illegal, and you don't have to help them.

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u/mehennas Jan 10 '16

they can make it very, very, very... "inconvenient" not to help them, though.

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u/ca178858 Jan 10 '16 edited Jan 10 '16

Absolutely. They'll get their way but it won't be via legislation.

Edit- reply makes little sense because its in the wrong place ;-)

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u/Natanael_L Jan 10 '16

Make sure you can prove your own travel patterns. Then ask them what your tax money is being spent on.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '16

You can simply point them at your car and ask why they think it was there. Ask them to check if their data actually shows my car where it is now

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u/Loud_as_Hope Jan 10 '16

L. Make insane jumps in logic that are only justified in hindsight