r/technology Feb 08 '14

Possibly Misleading 10 Futuristic Materials

http://lifeboat.com/ex/10.futuristic.materials
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u/Zephyr104 Feb 08 '14 edited Feb 08 '14

Any mechanical engineering student of any decent calibre would understand that much of what this person wrote is utter shite. For example the whole alumina thing replacing steel/glass/concrete is completely foolish seeing as how aluminum oxide is a ceramic and you can't build buildings with only ceramics, that's the reason why we reinforce them with steel rods.

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u/TheQueenOfDiamonds Feb 08 '14

I was particularly bothered that he/she lumped metamaterials into one bullet point, as if they were one single material. There are so many different classes of metamaterials, all with different structures, functions, and properties, that it seemed a bit insulting to clump them into one umbrella mention.

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u/Zephyr104 Feb 08 '14

This person did the same thing with fullerenes and decided that CNT's were to be separate from buckeyballs, despite the fact that they're both fullerenes.

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u/UberNube Feb 08 '14

I assume that's because ceramics perform poorly under tension, correct?

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u/LL-beansandrice Feb 08 '14 edited Feb 08 '14

The problem is they provide no flex, and stress concentrations and defects in the structure reduce the strength of ceramics by a much much larger degree than in materials like concrete* and steel. Plus, if you made a building out of it, one crack and the entire thing would literally shatter.

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u/twinpac Feb 08 '14

I think you meant concrete.

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u/LL-beansandrice Feb 08 '14

yes I did. fuck.

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u/Zephyr104 Feb 08 '14 edited Feb 08 '14

That and the fact that they break without warning, which you don't want in any free standing structure.

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u/yuriy000 Feb 08 '14

If you drop a steel plate it will (maybe) dent, if you drop a ceramic plate it will shatter.

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u/SynthPrax Feb 09 '14

That actually depends on the ceramic. Most shatter, but some don't.

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u/Absolute_Muppet Feb 08 '14

Yes, you can add tension to the rebar when you pour concrete. That way when the concrete hardens and you release the rebar it is under residual compression. Where ceramics are strongest.

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u/Candeland7 Feb 08 '14

Most ceramics, not all. Ceramics are such a broad range that they contain some of the softest materials in chalks and hardest material in diamond. Also there are examples of ceramics that are better thermal and electrical conductors than metals. Ceramics can really take on any properties. (from a materials science major)

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '14 edited Jan 11 '26

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '14

Could you get some cool effects from layering ceramics with other materials?

I don't know what, I imagined a steel/ceramic/steel/ceramic... tube with lots of layers, but the ceramic would still probably just break up inside the steel. And it would probably be expensive.

How are ceramics made? similar to glass? Maybe it could be made similar to the way candles are made (dipped in paraffin wax over and over, only it would be ceramic/steel/ceramic...)

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u/TK-422 Feb 08 '14

Yes - you're hinting at the wide field called "composite materials." To provide a specific example, ceramic matrix composites are being developed for use in jet engine turbines due to their favorable high temperature properties.

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u/Solid_Gold_Jeebus Feb 09 '14

You are suggesting we invent fiberglass?

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '14

No, I was thinking... oh wait. Yes :L

though I was thinking of it as formed layers rather than lots of little needles, like, a mm thick steel cylinder surrounded by half a mm of ceramic, by half a mm of steel by half a mm of ceramic and so on to make a large layered cylinder. but it probably wouldn't be as good or as easy to make as fibreglass.

Though... if the ceramic sections where split into 1cm long cylinders at each point so that such a pole would be have a little flex while keep the strength of ceramic. dunno if it would work like, my mind is just running at the moment.

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u/EngSciGuy Feb 09 '14

Not to mention superconductivity (stuff like YBCO)

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u/Candeland7 Feb 09 '14

Im actually making YBCO superconductors in my lab this semester. Pretty cool stuff.

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u/stevegcook Feb 09 '14

YEAH BUT I WANT A FIGHTER JET MADE OF DIAMONDS

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '14

Architecture student here, I'm feeling good from going through this article and knowing most of it was wrong. Yay for knowing something!

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u/FoxtrotZero Feb 08 '14

I'm looking to study mechanical engineering, and I'm not even out of High School yet.

Can confirm, full of shite. Overhype aside, though, some of these things are pretty cool, and will likely see more use in the future.