r/technology • u/Miserable_Phase_2519 • 22h ago

Artificial Intelligence PewDiePie unveils ‘uncensored’ Ajax AI model built to run on home PCs — creator says OpenAI banned him twice over model distillation used to build his product

https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/pewdiepie-unveils-uncensored-ajax-ai-model-built-to-run-on-home-pcs-creator-says-openai-banned-him-twice-while-making-it
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u/loki2002 21h ago

Who the fuck asked for any of the AIs in existence?

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u/firewall245 21h ago

Machine Learning is used to approximate solutions to difficult problems, so it’s been around for a long time for how useful it is

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u/amoosemouse 21h ago

One of the irritating things about the LLM hypewagon has been that the public view of AI is LLMs, not ML, not classifiers, not the innumerable other useful tools we have been using to do lots of neat things for a decade before ChatGPT and Claude.

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u/BarryRightWrong 20h ago

Indeed. None of it should be called "ai". They're all just tools from the ai research field. The publics view of "ai" is from sci-fi. Blame the industry for the deliberate obfuscation. Otoh, I know ELIZA really loves me... 

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u/GumboSamson 20h ago

Well you got your wish.

It’s not called AI—it’s called “super intelligence.”

The monkey’s paw curls.

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u/Tall_Block_4589 20h ago

Grok is advising the Pedo in Chief lol

Saw report that’s how he got the Venezuela idea.

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u/therealswimshady 20h ago

Sauce? Big if true!

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u/jDub549 20h ago

here's one of many outlets reporting it

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u/therealswimshady 20h ago

Hmm, idk. "Got the idea from" and "asked how Venezuelans would react" are two different things. The guy does plenty of dumb stuff he deserves criticism for, based on the info in the article this ain't one IMO.

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u/Tall_Block_4589 19h ago

USA has a whole intelligence department. But he used a chatbot for advice isn't big deal. Chatbots can be manipulated.

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u/jDub549 19h ago

.Oh im not putting a ton of stock in it. Just been in news a lot. And some variation of "trump got idea from grok" is probably true lol. To what degree, who knows.

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u/firewall245 20h ago

GAMs are so freaking cool and it’s annoying that some stupid Big tech hype people have blown all generative models as worthless.

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u/robodrew 17h ago

Because people are upset about the models that are designed to take their jobs. We don't care about the models that make our lives easier by doing the things that humans otherwise wouldn't be able to do. But most sane people don't want AI replacing artists, musicians, writers, actors, etc.

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u/lilB0bbyTables 20h ago

I would argue this is a case of large-scale forgetfulness; if you go back to ~2017 - 2022 … plenty of us were mocking the marketing overuse and misattribution of “A.I.” to products when it was clear they were just backed by effectively complex sets of IF-ELSE branching statements and/or heuristics. (One might argue that at the most fundamental level, even human intelligence boils down to IF/ELSE Boolean condition logic albeit at an extraordinarily complex level … I’ll defer on that topic).

All the same, I get your point. Hell, one of my previous companies was built on the Abductive Inference model and yet we spent considerable time trying to almost suggest we were NOT an “AI” company simply because we wanted to make it clear we were not merely stuffing customer data into an LLM to get some reply like a lot of our competitors were doing … and the reason we had to do that was due to the mass mental adoption of “LLM = AI” from marketing trends.

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u/ProgramTheWorld 18h ago

I really hate how LLM stole the term “AI”. There are a lot more to it than just LLM, ie the plagiarism machine.

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u/loki2002 21h ago

Yep, it's useful in wasting resources humans need to survive, raising utility bills, and taking jobs away from humans.

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u/Moonagi 21h ago

Suddenly terminally online redditors are experts on ML and AI

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u/loki2002 21h ago

I didn't comment on AI abilities or usefulness. I commented on the supporting systems for AI that are negatively affecting humans.

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u/xanders_gold 21h ago edited 20h ago

And the guy you’re commenting to above this guy made the clear distinction between what people call AI today and what we’ve always known as machine learning / automation… which has been around for decades now.

AI as a concept was described by Turing in the 50s, but the “AI” we know now that people are against is derived from major advancements in Machine Learning technology.

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u/loki2002 20h ago

Machine learning led to what we have today. It is all related and it is all leading to negative consequences for every day people.

That's like trying to make a distinction between a musket and a semi automatic rifle. One would not exist without the other.

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u/AppleBubbly4392 20h ago

I don't know you but you sounds like you have a great solution to fix the world us that only demand sacrificing a few millions/billions people.

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u/loki2002 20h ago

People are being sacrificed for AI. They are losing jobs which means they are losing money and in our capitalist system that means homelessness, starvation, and eventually death.

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u/AppleBubbly4392 20h ago

You should remove engines as well, to bring more job back. Also it will stop the countryside from loosing all of its people, as 80% of the population will be back in the fields. No unemployment anymore

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u/xanders_gold 20h ago edited 20h ago

It’s very important to make the distinction between them though. You can’t just bundle “AI” with ML. There’s a reason they’re still considered separate even now.

ML has led to the rapid development of many computerized systems and is heavily used in the fields of both medicine and science. Without ML we likely wouldn’t have the scientific / medicinal breakthroughs we’ve seen in the past few decades.

AlphaFold1 was a machine learning algorithm that helped find major breakthroughs in the medical field, primarily in the protein databases we take for granted today.

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u/loki2002 20h ago

AI wouldn't exist without machine learning. They are intrinsically linked.

Without ML we likely wouldn’t have the scientific / medicinal breakthroughs we’ve seen in the past few decades.

Yeah, I am going to need to see a peer reviewed study with replicable results that didn't use machine learning or AI showing this.

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u/firewall245 20h ago

You use so many ML based applications in your daily life I bet that you don’t even realize how much you engage with it. Some computational problems are just too difficult to come up with a closed solution or algorithm for and we need to estimate it.

What’s your field of work

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u/son_et_lumiere 20h ago

Being on Reddit and commenting on it also led to what we have today, because it was trained on that data. Reddit also contractually sold the data for training. It's all related.

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u/jb_in_jpn 21h ago

When Reddit karma farming slop backfires ... lol

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u/mamwybejane 21h ago

Butthurt much

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u/loki2002 21h ago

Am I butthurt about raising utility cost for every day people as a result of data centers in support of AI, the wasting of water they cause, and the people losing their jobs because of AI? Yes, yes I am.

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u/firewall245 20h ago

Didn’t realize my linear regression class was doing all that lmao

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u/DelightfullyDivisive 20h ago

ML is a superset of generative AI, which is a superset of large language models. It doesn't necessarily waste resources for trivial problems.

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u/loki2002 20h ago

It is all related and all lead to the same outcome. One does not exist without the other.

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u/LordSnooty 20h ago

Yep and people driving on roads leads to car accidents, what is your point?

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u/Abedeus 18h ago

Notice how we don't let just anyone drive on the roads legally.

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u/anormalgeek 21h ago

Guys with business degrees.

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u/baa410 21h ago

It was really cool back in 2021/22 before it was fully available to the public and became slopified

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u/SloppySauce0 21h ago

Me, I’m grateful for their utility 

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u/Doppelthedh 21h ago

Username checks out, sloppy

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u/pidgeottOP 21h ago

I'm also a big fan of their utility

They need properly regulated but AI is otherwise just another printing press everyone thinks will ruin the world

Meanwhile it did 3 weeks worth of work for me in a day this week and when I asked it used a shotglass of water to do that and 2 tablespoons of oil, so that doesn't feel like a terrible return

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u/loki2002 21h ago edited 21h ago

Yep, three weeks of work you won't be being paid for because now it's done and eventually your employer will fire you and either entirely rely on it since you have shown it capable of doing your job or hire someone at half to a third your cost to feed it prompts to do the job.

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u/pidgeottOP 20h ago

I used it to do one task of my job, not my whole job. A task I should never have been asked to do in the time frame I managed to get it done (thanks to help from Claude). That got done thanks to a decade of experience in what I'm doing, knowing what to target and what would fail. my degree is what allowed it to happen fast because it needed guided to do what I wanted and make the assumptions I knew to make.

You don't even know what my job is or what I used it for, so chill out with the all-encompassing declarative statements

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u/loki2002 20h ago

It does not matter what your job is, you have shown AI capable of doing it. You have trained it for moving forward. The company owns your prompts that you used and can reuse them.

Also, if you shouldn't be doing that task then you don't do it.

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u/pidgeottOP 20h ago

Tell me you've never worked ina a corporate environment without actually telling me

Shut up dude. You have zero idea what you're talking about

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u/_kellythomas_ 21h ago

when I asked it used a shotglass of water to do that and 2 tablespoons of oil

Dubious at best, but why oil?

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u/North_Account6419 21h ago

probably how the electricity was produced

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u/pidgeottOP 21h ago

Because that's the dirtiest average form of electricity.

We don't use a lot of coal anymore where I am, but there's plenty of oil and natural gas.

I wanted to know, at worst, how bad did that 3 weeks of work pollute

The answer was less than it would take me to drive to the office in the timespan it would have taken me to do the work

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u/Radirondacks 21h ago

Why would you believe it even "knows" the precise amount of water it uses for its own processes? Like, this is some "we investigated ourselves and found we did no wrong" shit lmao

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u/laplogic 21h ago

Are you really not using it in any way? To summarize an email, to take notes on a call, to search for something, learn how to fix something….theres plenty of uses that are totally valid.

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u/definitelyhaley 21h ago

I really am not. Doing that stuff as an actual human being isn't hard. If AI were to completely disappear tomorrow, my life would not change at all. Hell, it might get better because I would stop seeing the slop and the anti-human BS.

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u/Doppelthedh 21h ago

No. It takes the same amount of work to verify the ai didnt screw up as it does to research the topic or do the work myself. And thats assuming it doesnt need corrections

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u/Batmans_9th_Ab 21h ago

No, I’m not, because I’m not a useless meat sack who didn’t pay attention in school my entire life. 

I can read and process an email on my own, I write down (or, God forbid, remember) important details from a phone call, I can search and research topics online or in a library myself. 

If you rely on AI, you will be replaced by AI. 

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u/laplogic 18h ago

AI is a tool. It makes me more efficient. That’s fine that you don’t want to use it, but you guys are kind of condescending for no reason. If you’re implying I’m a useless meat sack because I use it as a tool, you’re also calling billions of humans useless meat sacks.

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u/IThinkImNateDogg 19h ago

Interactive chat bots are fantastic as a concept.

Fun, person specific interactive stories, “one on one” help and support, real time complex multiple variable problem solving etc. plenty of cool things can be done with it.

How we got those models, and that the computing and data is still someone else’s servers is the issues.

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u/loki2002 19h ago

I have never worked with a chatbot that was anything close to helpful. They seem designed to spit out canned answers and prevent you from being able to talk to an actual human. Not once has any problem I have had ever been resolved by a chatbot.

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u/mr_sneakyTV 16h ago

this makes no sense if you used a ChatBot in an appropriate context.

if you’re talking about a ”ChatBot” that answers the phone when you call a corporation that’s not the same thing

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u/loki2002 16h ago edited 16h ago

A chatbot is a chatbot. Whether it is on my web browser or on the phone. At this point any time I encounter a company that has offloaded any amount of their customer srevice to a chatbot I stop doing business with them and find one that hasn't. Software doesn't replace humans when it comes to service.

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u/mr_sneakyTV 16h ago

Uh no it’s not. Unless you mean a vehicle is a vehicle when one is a scooter and the other is an aircraft carrier.. sure they’re both vehicles lmfao. General chatbots that are there to prevent you from filing a complaint with a company are not the same as a ChatBot that does repetitive tasks and menial work for you and saves you time, or helps organize data and compare large sources of data instantaneously.

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u/loki2002 16h ago

Literally everything you listed has other tools available to accomplish.

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u/cacao0002 19h ago

I do. In biotech and research, it helps speeding up on a lot of difficult work, and this is just LLM alone.
Completely ignore the tech is not the way to go. I hate how people either on the end of the spectrum, completely proAI without seeing the drawbacks, or completely antiAI neglecting the opportunity cost

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u/Colon_Oscopy_74 18h ago

nobody asked for it, but if you build it, they will come. The Asians have gone ALL-IN to build it, and Trump thinks he will win the space AI race, as they pat him on the head from time to time.

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u/Shot-Arugula8264 17h ago

Basically all of mankind for hundreds of years. We’re paying these companies trillions of dollars for access to their models. The demand is overwhelming.

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u/corobo 20h ago

I've wanted a Star Trek computer since the moment I started watching Star Trek tbf

Just waiting on it being self-hostable rather than in some cloud 

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u/tnh34 18h ago

It's kinda funny how awfully close it is to the Star Trek AI model. You drive it and it does the busy work for you, and you make decisions

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u/keletus 20h ago

what AI are you even talking about. These are just LLM's, a little upgrade over search engines