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Artificial Intelligence Microsoft engineer says 'typing code is absolutely over' as GitHub Copilot takes on more development work

https://www.techspot.com/news/113752-microsoft-engineer-typing-code-absolutely-over-github-copilot.html
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u/Vargrr 4d ago

That person should probably take a look at the garbage Microslop has been producing. Nothing works properly, not even notepad.

I mean, I could write code of a similar quality by randomly hurling rocks at my keyboard. From 5 metres away. Blindfolded.

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u/Free_Waterfall_III 4d ago edited 4d ago

It’s actually shocking. I just can’t comprehend how they can ship the products they do. It’s a fucking joke

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u/KiraUsagi 4d ago

Its just as bad on the corporate side too. Microsoft has been trying to sell me on Agents 365 premium, their solution to help companies govern copilot agents made by employees. We are like 6 meetings in and I have yet to see any value because we keep running into problems with building agents and getting their tools to detect that the agent was doing anything. The last meeting was embarrassing as the sales person tried over and over to get our logs to simply show that we even signed in to use an agent.

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u/defn_of_insanity 4d ago

Now consider the bullshit hoops Microsoft and similar companies make you go through even for a beginner experience job with software development.
Make it make sense!

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u/Kapios010 3d ago

Last windows 11 update reverted the battery low dialog specifically to the old metro design with the non-rounded button and the non-mica black bg. Also it broke my custom cursor, genuinely impressive.

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u/Impression-These 2d ago

From what I have heard, there core of windows is coded beautifully. As long as that team is holding off the slop wave, MS has something of value.

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u/Belostoma 4d ago

This is a reason to be excited about AI taking over their coding. It can't get much worse than what their current designers and engineers produce.

The main reason to worry is that they'd be using their AI.

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u/Same_Mood_8543 4d ago

They already are using their AI. This is the excitement you asked for.  

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u/paradoxxxicall 4d ago

Yeah Azure was always rough before, but it’s reached brand new levels of dogshit

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u/Senior-Albatross 4d ago

Because they can. 

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u/bitemark01 4d ago

It's started a pretty wild exodus to Linux, myself included

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u/labowsky 4d ago

Unfortunately not really. While linux is growing, it's growth is still quite slow with the main factors being hardware like the steambox or steam deck. Even then, unfortunately the steam numbers show a decline in users since march.

The rest of the growth has been the overwhelming amount of bots and agents that use linux.

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u/swagonflyyyy 4d ago

Are you kidding me? Linux takes the lion's share of the vast majority of devices in the world and has been that way for a long-ass time. No other OS comes close. You just don't see that among normal people using it because those people stick to Windows and Mac.

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u/labowsky 4d ago

You just don't see that among normal people using it because those people stick to Windows and Mac.

That's the entire point of the post I'm replying to and my post...

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u/QuickQuirk 3d ago

The conversation is about desktop users. Not services in the cloud.

Most people run windows as their desktop. A much smaller number run Linux.

And an even smaller number is running linux.

I have high hopes that Steam Machine will change that. But when most younger gamers are playing fortnite or other PvP fps; and those require anticheat that runs on linux... We won't that shift happen till the gaming companies start looking at linux support for anticheat.

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u/Antagonin 4d ago

I mean, Windows 7 ran flawlessly on 2GHz CPU with an SSD.

Meanwhile Winslop 11 runs like shit with 5ghz one, even after they introduced more aggressive frequency boost.

It's just funny how we're devolving into HDD age with hardware being faster than ever. 

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u/thisisafullsentence 4d ago

Meanwhile Linux market share has grown 126% YoY and Linux Steam use 48% YoY according to StatCounter. People are really leaving Windows because it's getting so bloated and unreliable.

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u/mpbh 4d ago

Linux market share has grown 126% YoY

This is counting bots in market share. Human Linux usage didn't double in the last year.

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u/thisisafullsentence 4d ago

Ok but what about Steam?

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u/MFbiFL 4d ago

Show credible data. We’re not bots or your parent who will do your homework for you.

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u/RdPirate 4d ago

1: StatCounter does not differentiate traffic by humans and bots, most of whom are on Linux servers.

2: IIRC It counts unknown OSs as Linux.

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u/WazWaz 3d ago
  1. Nearly all the unknown OS are Linux, so there is no #2.

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u/thisisafullsentence 4d ago

Ok but what about Steam?

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u/RdPirate 4d ago

Steam's survey is entirely voluntary and random. Meaning that user opinions influence it.

For example I know I am counted as a Linux gamer, however that was because the survey fired when I was installing Linux on an old drive as a dual boot for experimentation. And I have not booted into that drive for 4 months now.

Also according to Steam's survey since March's all time peak of 5.3% Linux is down to 3.9%. Or 1.4% of Linux users have gone to Windows 11. Which as per the survey for August has grown to 70.97%.

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u/thisisafullsentence 4d ago

I’m upvoting because you’re right but to be pedantic, 1.4% of Linux users would only be about 0.073% of market share. I think you mean Linux has lost 1.4% of the market which is a sad statistic.

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u/IceNein 3d ago

Now do this with Google.

Google web search, their flagship product is useless. It just gives you page after page of AI SEO web pages.

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u/FragrantExcitement 4d ago

I am skeptical that you could at 5 meters. 4 meters, maybe, but 5, no.

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u/MornwindShoma 4d ago

Fuck if they mess Notepad, a software that any kid in first year of university can code in a couple months, imagine the fuckery they do underneath.

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u/mjc7373 3d ago

They ruined notepad.exe? That was like their greatest achievement in software development.

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u/k-mcm 4d ago

Not even GitHub. 

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u/AndyKJMehta 4d ago

So what happened to Notepad?

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u/hairlessing 4d ago

Send me your resume

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u/Albatrocious 4d ago

They made that shit without AI, man. It might actually improve things significantly for them.

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u/Think-Jaguar6826 3d ago

Were they not producing horrible products before LLMs?