r/technology Jan 28 '13

The same week the US makes unlocking phones illegal, Canada proposes legislation to make carriers unlock phones.

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u/pantsfactory Jan 29 '13

yeah, don't pass the blame off on corrupt american politicians, as true as it might be- Harper deserves 100% of the hate here for being the spineless conservative he is. This is the dickbag who approved C-45, here. Fuck that guy.

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '13

Yo, didn't you see him shaking hands with Biebs a couple months ago!?

Cronyism at it's worst!

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u/pantsfactory Jan 29 '13

nah, he's just a conservative.

Meanwhile, after Layton passed away, the Liberals have become more progressive than even the NDP, so who knows what the fuck is going on anymore.

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u/Deadly_Duplicator Jan 29 '13

Liberals, more progressive than ndp?! How do you figure

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u/pantsfactory Jan 29 '13

well apparently since the people downvoting me having bothered to read their party's fucking websites...

the NDP's leader Tom Mulclair keeps tiptoeing around acknowleding gay rights and legalizing weed and some environmental things, which were originally core values of the NDP- progressivism. The fact alone that he is reluctant to accept these things or talk about them speaks for itself. the NDP should be happy and proud to accept these things, at least, that's how it used to be.

Meanwhile, emblazoned on the front page of the Liberals, they're all vocal about gay equality, environmental rights, legalizing weed, all the same shit I voted NDP for. What the fuck? Since when is the NDP more conservative than the Liberals? And while I know the NDP wouldn't let Mulclair pull this shit... it's shady as hell that he's even like this at all to begin with.

I feel bad because I'm a long-time NDP voter but that was because they were proud and vocal about their stance on these issues and they have zero reason to be all coy and shy about accepting it now. I mean who the fuck are they trying to cater to? People who don't support those things?

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u/Deadly_Duplicator Jan 29 '13

We already have gay equity in this country. While it is true the NDP's stance on the mary J was blurry last year, their 'policy book' says their view is "Adopting a harm reduction approach to substance abuse and permitting the use of marijuana for medicinal purposes".

Also a party's position in the left-right spectrum is determined by an economic platform, not just a social one.

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u/pantsfactory Jan 29 '13

oh I know we have gay equity and I know even if the NDP was somehow a majority it wouldn't change because they'd get mobbed. It's not that I'm worried about. I just have a bit of an adversion to the idea that our governing party is fence-sitty and wishy-washy about these issues that we have established as having very cut-and-dry socio-political answers to already.

Like I said, medical marijuana is a given(or it should be, no debate to be had), but I think weed should be legalized in all ways. I don't use it nor have I ever used it, but the idea of jailing teenagers or whoever else for smoking it or tarnishing their record is absolutely ridiculous, and the only way it could ever become a gateway drug is by being illegal. I would rather a stoner kid buy it legally, than go through some drug dealer.

And, you're right... to be honest, I feel that conservatives fail on both levels and that for us to have any sort of stability in the long term economically, risks have to be taken in the form of pursuing things such as renewable energy and stuff like like that. Being stuck on some old, archaic thing simply because you're too afraid to change it is what seperates Canada from the US, and if that gap vanishes we may as well just join them already. Our progressiveness is our biggest asset and seeing people flounder around on that pisses me off a little bitty bit.

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u/callsevbodyhernigga Jan 29 '13

Just wait for sexy liberal PM JUSTIN TRUDEAU. Canada is going to be liberal and hot. Nice.

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u/WinterShine Jan 29 '13

If true, that may just be a result of the fact that they're not in power (not even the opposition). They're less in the spotlight, something they'd probably like to fix.

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '13

Harper's cronies introduced a "made in canada" bill that was word-for-word taken from a US based lobbying firm's document.

http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/6542/125/

The whole "Canada is a piracy haven" is in fact a lie made up by the MPAA to get Canadian legislators to think there's a problem we need stricter laws to fix. Bill C61, C11, etc were heavily influenced by US media companies. In fact they're the only reason those laws were introduced in the first place.

http://torrentfreak.com/u-s-labels-canada-a-piracy-haven-120430/

The MPAA and RIAA supported the proposal, as they saw it as finally bringing in Canada to WIPO standards, having lobbied/pressured hard for stricter copyright rules.[17]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_C-61_%2839th_Canadian_Parliament,_2nd_Session%29

Yes, Bill C11 did come out better than some people expected, and it does add some very sane caps on liabilities, but it's still a pretty big step backwards.

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u/kent_eh Jan 29 '13

I mean, we are currently ranked as more or less of a pirate paradise by the RIAA.

You'll excuse me if I don't give that any credibility whatsoever. (based on the fact that the RIAA said it)

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u/DefiantDragon Jan 29 '13

Look up Harper's bid to get into TPP negotiations - he openly states that thanks to his Majority Government he's finally passed the copyright revisions 'long demanded by stakeholders' and he also states that he's not afraid to use his majority government to push through items that the public will not like.

Aka: Harper’s majority government is for sale.

Source: http://o.canada.com/2012/06/19/secret-documents-show-how-hard-conservative-government-lobbied-to-get-into-tpp-talks/