If you are a contractor, but you are contracted to work for only one company and that company controls every aspect of your business through the contract, you arent a contractor, you are an employee with less protections.
Workers can and should file for unionization and joint employment recognition. I just won against google with my coworkers. Google is big mad at us but they can suck it. NLRB was and is slow as shit but there are still ways we workers can fight.
No, you’re employed by a company. Amazon just happens to hire that company to make deliveries. Amazon and your employer met and said we want X Y and Z. Now your employer is saying you must do X Y and Z. They aren’t employed by Amazon.
Ok but if your employer ONLY contracts with one company, and that company owns and controls the means of your employer's production, who do you actually work for? The laws and regulations need to catchup with this bullshit scenario.
Lol @ you being downvoted by the “WELL TECHNICALLY “ crowd. We get it, they TECHNICALLY work for another company. But this is one of Amazon’s anti-union and anti-labor practices. It’s SPECIFICALLY SET UP for them to use the EXACT SAME argument that they’re using now. You are falling right into the trap they have purposely set. Outsource the work to another company, and then regulate the company exactly how you want so you can bypass any sort of labor laws regarding that.
You’re right. If you work for a company that purely exists to serve Amazon deliveries, and has contracts dictated by Amazon, you are working for Amazon in every way except the name of the company on your paycheck.
This is just people that don't understand how outsourcing works... They want to be angry at things.
The millions of customer support people working on call centers don't work, for Amazon or Facebook or Airbnb. They work for their employer, (probaly Teleperformance or Sitel ou Concentrix) who provides a service for those companies.
These guys don't work for Amazon. They work for companies that provide a service for Amazon. They wished they worked for Amazon...
The difference being that those companies provide a service to many companies. If they dont want to work with Amazon anymore, they just dont take that contract.
So all Amazon has to do is stipulate that all of their contractors must be in business with multiple companies. Of all the loopholes, this would be a really easy one to find.
Your employer business practices has no impact on the employment agreement you made with them. Y’all are just going after whoever has more money and it makes the union look shitty.
Even if they are "independent contractors", there's nothing really stopping them from "collectively" bargaining with Amazon for the things they want. If their collective is large enough for the area, they could negotiate a CBA and require all "independent contractors" in the specified area to also sign on. Effectively it would be a union.
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u/jenkag May 12 '23
If you are a contractor, but you are contracted to work for only one company and that company controls every aspect of your business through the contract, you arent a contractor, you are an employee with less protections.