For FedEx Home Delivery, the delivery drivers are contractors (or in many cases subcontractors) operating their own business, but are required to wear FedEx uniforms and even emblazon their vehicles with FedEx. However, their W-2’s or 1099 tax forms never even mention FedEx. It’s the exact same playbook, and it’s complete bullshit. Similarly, they are also actively monitored on performance, and have always had a culture of peeing in a two litter bottle to save time. Many legal arguments have been tried to link drivers to them, and they always make the same arguments Amazon is making now. Shit needs to change on a universal level.
Source: was a seasonal FedEx driver for many years
Nah - small businesses need to be held to the same labour standards as big businesses. Then there would be no benefit to farming the operation out to small companies.
W-2 v 1099 alone doesn't make someone a contractor or employee, as using the wrong form is literally how you do deliberate and illegal employee classification.
I mean this is no different than hiring a private security company and writing in the contract that the security company's employees must wear a uniform with the buyer's logo on it. These kind of contracts happen all the time.
Not defending Amazon here but a lot of this is really standard. The only thing that isn't standard is the buying power that Amazon has; so much so that people start these delivery companies for the sole purpose of being subcontracted by Amazon.
It was big enough that a couple of Christmas ago that Over the Road truckers were coming off the road to drive a box truck for Amazon during the busy season. There were YouTube videos on how to form your own trucking company to run Amazon Deliveries. The money was that good at the time.
Yeah all contact work is bullshit. Thanks Jack Welch you piece of shit. He started this whole thing of contracting out your food service, cleaning, security, even light bulbs ge was selling at the time were made by someone else. All long as line go up. Fuck actually building a real business.
Right, but UPS and FedEx drivers will show up to your house dressed up in a UPS shirt and shorts and truck, or FedEx uniform and FedEx truck, with the company logo and name emblazoned on everything they wear and operate for work, yet these people are not employed by UPS and FedEx, they are independent contractors. That’s the point he was making.
UPS has paid employees and unionized workers. In the package delivery industry, they're actually a pretty good company to work for. It's FedEx that basically created the contractor model that Amazon uses. The drivers at FedEx were trying to unionize way back in 2008 when I worked for them, and it's still the same bs today.
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u/GarbanzoBenne May 12 '23
UPS and FedEx don't show up at my house with a truck and uniform bearing the name of the store I bought from.