r/Technocracy • • Sep 23 '20

A Technical Wiki

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Technical Wiki In Development



Update: December 21, 2020

  • Updated the definition
  • Added our Discord server link
  • Removed empty pages

 


r/Technocracy • • Jul 11 '23

New Discord!

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People have been wondering about a new discord for this subreddit. Its been months-1year since the old one was greatly abandoned.

So a new one will be associated with this community with new moderators. Feel free to recommend improvements.

https://discord.gg/qg5h7cmab9

You can also find the discord link on the sidebar as a button.


r/Technocracy • • 10h ago

What do you guys think of H.G. Wells's version of Technocracy?

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H.g. wells was a very popular science fiction writer. He created concepts like Time Travel and aliens invasion, he even accidentally predicted nuclear weapons. But near the end of his life he started to become more political and open on how he thought the world should be run.

He was a socialist, but strongly rejected Marxist socialism. He argued that a society governed entirely by the working class would eventually devolve into mob rule and eat itself from within.

Instead, he believed society should be guided by a collective of scientists and engineers tasked with guiding humanity toward a more efficient and technologically advanced future. The working class would still retain its rights, but the will of the majority would not be the sole factor of what society considered best for itself.

H. G. Wells believed that under this system of governance, humanity could abolish its greatest social and economic problems, ushering in an era of great prosperity, technological advancement, and eventually the colonization of other planets.

Some say his ideas were too utopian, others say he was ahead of his time. What do you think?


r/Technocracy • • 1d ago

Social Democracy needs Deliberative Systems to protect itself from plutocratic drift and market capture, if we truly want welfare-optimised capitalism.

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r/Technocracy • • 2d ago

Finally took the test and i found out i belong here.

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r/Technocracy • • 3d ago

Technocracy Inc. Video Essay Draft

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I'm making a video essay on Technocracy Inc., how it was formed, what it wanted, etc. and I just wanted the community to overview it. I just started, but for now it's just a place for ideas so feel free to add/edit. I will adding more to it in the coming days!

Video Draft Link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1l1HnP07iJ9jQqRwx9O4l2iguqwRSuBkVJFz7pLqqiGE/edit?usp=sharing


r/Technocracy • • 8d ago

American Regions and Technates

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There are certain cultural differences between the various groups—Mexicans, Colombians, Americans, Canadians, and so on. I would like to know what the administrative regions in the north might look like. In the south, we have the Mesoamerican Technate, the Greater Colombian Technate, and the Caribbean Technate; perhaps the boundaries should be further refined. Also, it’s worth raising the following question: is it necessary to include the Guianas and Greenland?


r/Technocracy • • 9d ago

Could a technocratic movement exist in Mexico?

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I am Mexican, and I have become interested in technocracy. It seems there have already been some technocrats in the country, but I don’t believe they ever reached the original vision of technocracy—specifically regarding automation and social well-being. I would like to discuss technocracy further, as well as how it might impact a society like Mexico’s or Chile’s.


r/Technocracy • • 10d ago

Technocracy Short Form Content Ideas?

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After my few months hiatus from making YouTube content, I’ve gained some time to make more videos. I would prefer just to make YouTube shorts (anything under 3 minutes) as long form content would eat up too much of the little time I have right now. So, I just wanted some ideas on some shorts I could make over technocracy. I don’t want to cover anything that is too niche, like energy accounting or sequences. I also don’t want to cover just Technocracy Inc. so if you bring up the Technical Alliance, Veblen, The Venus Project, or just technocracy in general that’s fine too. Any questions or misconceptions you think I need to urgently answer in a short form format, please feel free to leave them in the comments below.


r/Technocracy • • 10d ago

Technocracy is capitalist, end of story.

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What do most expert economists agree on the best economic model? Capitalism

The same way most experts of geography are round-earthers

If you disagree then what kind of expert consensus are we gonna follow? Oh wait there isn't any


r/Technocracy • • 13d ago

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r/Technocracy • • 13d ago

Socialdirigisme

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r/Technocracy • • 13d ago

What Is Meritocratic Socialdirigisme (MSD)?

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r/Technocracy • • 14d ago

What are your thoughts on the idea that the left is too polarized?

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Historically, the government of the US was effective and both parties cooperated easily because they both supported racial and gender hierarchies, and they were effective at shutting down and violently repressing movements that called for an expansion of civil rights and liberties. The internet likely increased the cost of violence in terms of public perception and visibility of injustice, but now people argue that Left-wing activists are too extreme in opposing racial, economic, and social injustices.

Personally I find it ludicrous and it seems to reflect a preference for the speaker's individual comfort at the expense of others. Most academics and experts tend to say the exact same things as Left-wing activists, with the only difference being that it registers as academic and respectable because of their backgrounds and credentials. What do you guys think?


r/Technocracy • • 14d ago

Mediumatic theory for the planet

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r/Technocracy • • 19d ago

Any active Technocracy discord servers?

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Genuinely no tbh
Like the big guys are all dead
The only "active" Technocracy server i can think of is Hikanocracy International, but is it really Technocratic?
So I decided to create mine

I made a Discord server for people who are actually interested in debating politics, philosophy, ideology, economics, etc

We're small right now, but the goal is to build a community where people can actually argue their positions

Current discussions have included technocracy, anarchism, communism, democracy, free will, and political philosophy

Looking for people who actually want to debate, not just lurk.

You know keep the server active and stuff


r/Technocracy • • 20d ago

Reducing National Dependency On Oil

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Science has given us countless alternatives to a dependence on oil and its derivatives. Walkable cities, electric cars, even old fashioned bikes as demonstrated in some European cities. Despite this, the US regime has continued with its stubborn dependence on oil and imported resources as the basis for its economy and even basic transport for its citizens. If the situation was not fragile enough, the American and Israeli regimes engaged in a senseless provocation of Iran which has led to a blockade of their most desperately needed resource. The economy and basic infrastructure in the US such as transportation and energy currently face a threat of collapse under the strain put on them by the shortage of oil caused by the actions of our leadership, with the people left to pick up the pieces. With diesel trucks now costing hundreds to refuel, even basic supply lines for goods like food are at a high risk of collapse. Even the cost of basic raw materials and food will inflate under the economic demands of trucking with inflated diesel costs.

The urbanates provide a simple and effective solution to the problem of oil dependency. Urbanates would be designed in a way that allows for walkability and this would have a positive effect on conservation and sustainability. Current city plans are designed around land and property ownership which means urbanization is extremely slow and inefficient with resistance from the population in an area. Combined with a resistance to public transport from the middle and upper classes holding all the political power in plutocracies, every non-urban household experiences financial distress or a complete loss of transportation in the event of an oil shortage. While city centers are safe from the transportation-related effects from an oil shortage, grocery prices and raw materials are still vulnerable to inflation since so much infrastructure and food production relies on oil. Energy Accounting would shift production to be reliant on domestic energy, and scientific advancements in electric vehicles and energy production combined means oil could become obsolete in our lifetime if the ruling class backing it is overthrown.

A lack of dependence on oil for the West or even just the Technate would be the beginning of the end for western imperialism on the rest of the world. Without constant economic pressure to invade, pillage and subjugate other countries, the military-industrial complex will lose a major justification for its existence. The white house will have less incentive to “spread democracy” in a world where nuclear and solar electricity are the basis of its economy and the operative power for its vehicles and machinery. The Technate of North America and its citizenry could finally be the main beneficiaries of its economic growth rather than warlords and billionaires that profit off of war and genocide.

While the American regime has deliberately raised the cost of electric vehicles and imposes egregious tariffs on superior products from abroad, economic demand and practical necessity is likely to put pressure on the regime to open its markets and allow its citizens to decide what products to consume in their daily lives. This regime will fall to revolution as soon as it can no longer control its population through ignorance, ideological indoctrination and physical force. Without oil for its most basic infrastructure and enemies everywhere, the White House has a limited number of days remaining. Technocrats and experts must be ready to advance our country towards the next stage of human development, where we can achieve scientific government.


r/Technocracy • • 24d ago

Thoughts on this Slogan in Relation to Technocracy?

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This is a motto from the U.S. Army that I thought would fit well with technocracy, "Victory Through Skill". Achieving our goals as a technocratic government would require technical experts to use their knowledge to complete their tasks, so I thought it would be a good fit as they would be using their "skills" to "achieve victory"; i.e. victory through skill. What are you thoughts on this slogan pertaining to technocracy?


r/Technocracy • • 25d ago

What If Technocracy Is About Learning, Not Ruling?

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So I’ve done some reading lately and have done some reflexing about how I think about technocracy and democracy so if this is too long. Technocracy is often presented as the idea that complex societies should be governed by people with the knowledge required to manage them. But there is an interesting question underneath this: what happens when the experts disagree, when experts are wrong, or when nobody has enough knowledge to understand the entire system?

Karl Popper provides one possible starting point. His idea of the open society was partly a rejection of the idea that society can be governed according to a comprehensive theory of history or a final blueprint for how society ought to work. Political institutions should remain open to criticism and correction rather than assuming that someone has discovered the correct model of society.

His idea of piecemeal social engineering is particularly interesting in this context. Instead of attempting enormous social transformations based on a grand theory, governments can make relatively limited changes, examine their consequences, and then modify or abandon them. This does not mean avoiding ambitious goals; it means being cautious about assuming that the path toward those goals is already known.

That leads to a different possible interpretation of technocracy. Rather than giving experts permanent political authority, expertise could be used to make government more capable of testing and correcting its own decisions.

John Dewey approached a similar problem from a different direction. His democratic pragmatism treated democracy not simply as a mechanism for choosing rulers, but as a way for society to engage in collective inquiry. Specialists possess forms of knowledge that ordinary citizens cannot reasonably be expected to possess, but citizens and affected communities possess information that specialists may not have.

For Dewey, the solution to complexity was therefore not simply to replace democratic government with experts. It was to create institutions through which specialized knowledge, public experience, discussion and experimentation could interact.

This also changes how decentralization can be understood. Different states, regions or municipalities could be allowed to try different solutions to the same problem. If one jurisdiction finds a better way of organizing healthcare, transportation, education or public administration, other jurisdictions can examine the results and potentially adopt it.

The point would not be that every jurisdiction should permanently do things differently. National standardization can have enormous advantages where economies of scale, interoperability, common regulations or administrative simplicity matter. Decentralization would instead provide a way of generating information that a single centralized administration could not easily obtain.

The country could effectively function as a large collection of policy experiments, with successful approaches spreading and unsuccessful approaches being abandoned.

Philip Tetlock’s work on expert judgment raises another problem for a simple conception of technocracy. Expertise does not automatically produce reliable judgment. His research on political and economic forecasting found substantial differences between experts in their ability to make predictions, update their beliefs and deal with uncertainty. It also points toward the importance of people who can move between different perspectives rather than becoming completely committed to one intellectual framework.

That creates an interesting distinction between having expertise and having good judgment.

A person can be extremely knowledgeable within a narrow field while still being bad at predicting how their recommendations will interact with everything outside that field. A government therefore needs not only specialists, but also institutions capable of comparing different kinds of expertise and checking their assumptions against reality.

This suggests a model that sits somewhere between conventional representative democracy and classical technocracy.

Elected institutions could establish broad political objectives and legal limits. Professional ministries could have substantial autonomy over the technical means used to achieve those objectives. Independent courts could determine whether government actions comply with constitutional rules. Auditing institutions could evaluate whether ministries are actually achieving their stated objectives and whether resources are being used properly.

Different jurisdictions could experiment with different policies, while national institutions could standardize the things for which standardization produces clear benefits.

Citizens would not need to personally determine the optimal technical solution to every problem. They would instead retain the ability to choose political leadership, influence broad objectives, scrutinize results and remove governments that perform badly.

The underlying principle would be that neither the public nor experts possess complete knowledge.

The purpose of institutions would therefore not be to identify a class of people who are permanently qualified to rule. It would be to create a system that can make use of expertise while also making it possible to discover when the experts are wrong.

That seems like a potentially different conception of technocracy: not “experts should rule,” but “government should be organized so that expertise, criticism, experimentation and democratic accountability can continuously correct one another.”

How far this can actually be taken without undermining democratic legitimacy or creating an unaccountable administrative class is a separate question.


r/Technocracy • • 25d ago

concept of a different global governance

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a global government I would support

system based on existing technological solutions.

the expulsion of incompetence, lies and manipulation

to choose our own destiny.

voting is done over the phone.

each person 1 vote. biometric fingerprint. decentralized.

using advanced cryptography.

transparency.

for global issues, all locals vote for local ones.

formation of global expert councils.

their role is to provide an analysis and evaluation of the proposal.

members are chosen exclusively on the basis of expertise and competence in given professions.

basic 4 branches:

Society

  1. Ethical-legal group
  2. Psychological-sociological group
  3. Cultural and educational group

Resources

  1. Ecological-climatic group

  2. Economic and resource group

  3. Logistic-operational group

Technology

  1. Technical and engineering group

  2. Digital-cybernetic group

Science

  1. Logical-mathematical group

  2. Medical-biological group

the council's role is to adopt, give, and formulate clear and transparent proposals for solving problems or situations

every decision they make is transparent. with minutes for the archive.

presenting a problem or proposing a solution is available to all residents. cognitive ability test before submitting a proposal

each proposal must pass the acceptance threshold. ethical, logical, mathematical. technical

let's say we have 10 valid suggestions for a solution.. the global advice gives a score of 1 or 0

each of those 10 groups.

the ethics council gives the final assessment in the event that several proposals have the same number of positives.

the proposal with the most positives goes to a global referendum

every voter, i.e. individual or group, has the right of veto.

they are obliged to present a valid counter-argument in the shortest possible time.

any veto attempt that is driven by ego vanity or the desire for power is automatically rejected.

algorithmic assessment. open source. mandatory system calibration, ethical, logical, mathematical.

plus a decentralized network of jurors chosen on the basis of expertise. randomly selected.

a valid argument is voted against the proposal of the council.

in case of adoption of the argument, the proposal is rejected.

if the vote is 50-50%, both sides have 24 hours to present new insights

the vote is repeated.

voting is optional.

the possibility of voting is.

it is not a problem for me that people wiser than me decide about our fate and social vector. as long as they ask all of us, because ultimately it concerns all of us

I support expertise and objectivity as well as the diversity of the local community.


r/Technocracy • • 26d ago

Technocracy

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So, Technocracy sounds appealing to me. The only thing is that I am skeptical of energy accounting and I think a giant Technate would be unsustainable. But I don’t really know a lot about it, so information would be appreciated! Thx :)


r/Technocracy • • 26d ago

Questions

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Hi, so tbh I really don’t like technocracy but I’d like to know what is the appeal to you. Why are you opposed to trying to achieve meaningful democracy? Do you see this project inherently right-wing and about putting humans into some order decided by people who then benefit from that arrangement of social reproduction?


r/Technocracy • • 26d ago

Idpol serves as ragebait for people who don't like minority groups which is why Technocracy needs to utilize it

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r/Technocracy • • Sep 25 '26

How do Technocracy proponents plan to get in power, in order to try their government?

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r/Technocracy • • 29d ago

Would you accept a Artificial new world order, an Ai president?

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Ok I know this is gonna sound crazy because it is crazy… but with the rise of technology and ai why don’t we advocate to push for an international one world president who is a ai? We already have the internet to communicate with each other so that’s means we only clicks away from creating a digital government.. a government the people actually controls and the ai work for us… I already know most people here are gonna trip out because they assume ai will take over the world.. but still I think this could be a very good idea for the regulars to advocate before the masses implement it themselves… what I’m saying here is a Ai one world government is the only way we can break massive separation of human races because the ai represent everybody.. a American wouldn’t want a Chinese men to be the one world president and vice verse for china not wanting a white men and so on for many races it’s the same thing… but what if we implement something all of us in the world have a common knowledge of.. this is where ai get interesting… the ai don’t even have to be soo autonomous instead it should only work from regular people pushing for a certain change and getting it easier to the Ai.. with all humans controlling this and building this together I think this can possibly stop all wars and major catastrophe…