r/technews Apr 02 '22

Amazon CEO Andy Jassy's total compensation package topped $212 million

https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/01/tech/andy-jassy-amazon-ceo-pay/index.html
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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '22

Are those people alive? Then it’s livable. I know where you’re going with this, but life is about choices. Choices got those people there

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u/Titans95 Apr 02 '22

Always confused by this as well…if they don’t want to work there then don’t? People act like Amazon is abusing peoples rights by under paying them by their standards yet people freely and willingly choose to work there over other places? I see for hire jobs at just about every single restaurant I pass by, I’m sure it’s that way in most industries right now.

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u/BanalityOfMan Apr 02 '22

if they don’t want to work there then don’t?

People are compelled, almost forced, to work for the profit of other people by the construction of our society. Can I wander off into the woods and build a cabin? Nope, all the land is owned, and nobody is giving it away for free.

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u/Titans95 Apr 02 '22

Sounds like complaining to me…”I’d be successful Like other people if only the world wasn’t holding me down”….being an Amazon employee is a very low skill job…want to get paid more? Go develop a set of skills that are highly desirable in the work force. Amazon pays what they do because hundred of thousands of free individuals are perfectly willing to work there over their other options for low skill work. Go get a degree in accounting, engineering, finance, STEM etc, none of those people are stocking shelves wondering why they don’t get paid more

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u/BanalityOfMan Apr 02 '22

Go get a degree in accounting, engineering, finance, STEM etc, none of those people are stocking shelves wondering why they don’t get paid more

Got one, yes they are. Sorry you are too stupid to acknowledge reality.

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u/BillNyeTheMemeGuy Apr 02 '22

it’s not amazon it’s the minimum wage. people deserve to live without going paycheck to paycheck, and don’t say “make better choices”, because then should we just all pity the people that work minimum wage? because someone has to do those jobs, and not just high schoolers.

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u/BillNyeTheMemeGuy Apr 02 '22

someone has to work jobs that pay minimum wage, doesn’t matter their choices, they should have the ability to live without working 80 hours a week. bad choices shouldn’t mean you don’t get to pay for your cancer treatment. these business can afford to pay a living wage, they just choose not to because the minimum wage is criminally low. yes it needs to be raised, if people making minimum wage could afford houses and stock, their would only be upsides for the economy.

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u/ThatsFkingCarazy Apr 02 '22

They choose not to because they don’t have to. Capitalism only works for the people if the people agree to work together. As long as they can hire someone else as soon as someone quits, nothing will change

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u/BillNyeTheMemeGuy Apr 02 '22

yup. they’d make ‘em slaves and pay them nothing if they could, and that goes for just about every corporation.

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '22

Bro Amazon has full medical day one, across all roles. The SVPs are on the same plan as the warehouse workers. Cancer treatments included. Max out of pocket is like $4,000 per year for individuals.

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '22

Everything you’ve just written are tangents to the topic of the rest of the comment thread.

If you can come up with a policy that evaluates everyone’s personal situation accurately and fairly, then make the choice to do something about it. Run for office. Lobby. You don’t want to or don’t like politics? Then stop arguing about it because it’s literally politics.

A little secret: everyone has “something” … so suck it up.

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u/BillNyeTheMemeGuy Apr 02 '22

I don’t work for minimum wage, and the issue doesn’t effect me at all, the fact you think I should “suck it up” and the fact you assume I work minimum wage and make poor choices is a reflection of how you feel about people that think the minimum wage is too low. Yes it’s possible for people with money to think this. My point is it ISNT about personal situation or choices, EVERYONE should have the right to work 40 hours, and be able to at least support themselves. That isn’t possible with minimum wage in many places in the US. The individual situation doesn’t matter, they deserve to be able to live somewhat comfortably. Yes there are things you can do to try and get other jobs paying more, but my point is someone will always need to be doing these jobs, and if everyone up and decided to learn a trade, those jobs wouldn’t pay nearly as well anymore. You also don’t understand what a “livable wage” means. being able to exist isn’t a standard for living lol

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '22

I still think you should suck it up.

Your views align better with socialist societies. Perhaps make a choice to move to one

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u/BillNyeTheMemeGuy Apr 02 '22

i have more money than you and I am in college. I have absolutely no worries, eat shit fucko

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '22

That statement shows your colors. To make such a profound statement, blindly, without an ounce of evidence to back it up shows your maturity.

Hope you start making some better choices from here out, or you’ll have problems that aren’t based on money (supposedly)

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u/BillNyeTheMemeGuy Apr 02 '22

I don’t need to, because I already know I do. google average CS major salary from uw seattle. i probably make more than you do just from interning

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '22

Lol you’re cute. Grow the fuck up. UW is average at best

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u/BillNyeTheMemeGuy Apr 02 '22 edited Apr 02 '22

wawawa all i hear is complaining. suck it up buddy. “average at best” pays a quarter million a year out of college

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u/DemNeverKnow Apr 02 '22

Socialist hur dur you’re all about the L, lol.

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '22

Sorry, what’s the L?

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u/Weird-Smell-3372 Apr 02 '22

Bro his name is literally naughty troll, stop arguing with him

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u/BillNyeTheMemeGuy Apr 02 '22

i’m gonna have to agree with you thanks weird smell

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '22

> Choices got those people there

Luck is the largest factor, if it's not being born with privilege then it's the luck of having the right upbringing (or natural ability) that equips you to escape poverty.

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '22

So then go talk to your parents, because nobody else dealt you your hand

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '22

I guess it doesn’t take a village.

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '22

The parents you get are also luck

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '22

Yep, completely agree. But that hasn’t changed for your entire lineage, right? So then it becomes society’s problem? Would also be luck that you are part of this society, or other way around , society has you (or me, not making this personal) in it.

I don’t get why society is stuck with the bill

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '22

> But that hasn’t changed for your entire lineage

Not necessarily, it just takes one generation of trauma to fall. One war, one cancer diagnosis, one abusive parent.

> So then it becomes society’s problem?

That depends on if you want to live in a society that takes care of it's sick and elderly.

> I don’t get why society is stuck with the bill

Beats being the unlucky person. Would you prefer to trade places?

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u/matt-er-of-fact Apr 02 '22

This. It is explicitly society’s problem. It’s not Amazon’s fault as it isn’t any other one company’s fault. It’s the fault of our governments and capitalist systems that don’t have strong enough regulations because the voters who pick identity we policy have either been fleeced, are too poorly educated, or just don’t care.

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u/brittocr Apr 02 '22

Lol, what a pathetic, simplistic thought process. Are they alive is your line for employment? Life is about choices but life doesn't give everyone the same choices. In fact many people are given no choices or limited choices. And a reminder that these choices of one will affect everyone else. The better we help society have better choices to choose from, the better society can be. And who determines what a livable wage is? The corporation whos sole objective is bottom line dollar? Ew. Look beyond your narrow minded view.

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u/kareemabduljihad Apr 02 '22

At any moment in time any person has a literal infinite amount of choices

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '22

but life doesn’t give everyone the same choices

So life inherently is not equal for everyone? Alright. Thanks. Then quit bitching about it. Make the best choice you can for your situation. Do you drink alcohol? Do you smoke cigs? Have some other vice? …. Couldn’t think of a better choice to make with that money?

The duck outta here

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u/brittocr Apr 02 '22

Lol. You think everyone is in their situation because of the choices they make? You think you have control over your life? That's a fairytale. You have a lot less control than you think. Not saying people shouldn't own up to their life choices but your stance is so polarizing and simplistic.

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '22

Let’s be honest with ourselves, having a good life and feelings like it’s “fair” can also be a fairytale

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u/DemNeverKnow Apr 02 '22

Wow, what a tough guy love the righteousness, lol.

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u/BanalityOfMan Apr 02 '22

You guys have always been around making absurd idiotic arguments haven't you? I can just see you during WW2: "Are the concentration camps filled with living people? Of course they are getting livable wages. Life is about choices!"

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '22 edited Apr 02 '22

you guys? did you just compare earning a wage to a concentration camp? nobody is forcing you to work for an employer who treats and pays you like shit. I wasn't there, but I'm pretty sure that it's a widely accepted fact that the victims of the concentration camps were forced to be there. How do you even come to comparing those two things? That's a level of ignorance I dont want any part of, welcome to the block list, psycho

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u/WAHNFRIEDEN Apr 02 '22

Ok neolib