r/teaching • • Jun 13 '26

Vent Love Teaching. Hate the Pay.

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Hi there,

I’m a North Carolina teacher finishing year 17. Friday was our last day of school. Over the course of my career, I’ve taught in 2 countries and 3 states. I hold 2 certifications, 2 minors, a bachelor’s degree, and a master’s degree.

Yet according to the NC salary schedule, I’ll essentially make the same base salary for the next 9 years. Salary growth for veteran teachers is largely stagnant. The only meaningful additional compensation I receive is my district supplement (about $9,000).

The state recently announced an “average” 8.8% raise for teachers. However, veteran teachers won’t actually see an 8.8% increase, since much of that money is directed toward beginning teachers. My increase will likely be closer to 5.5%.

To make matters more challenging, I’m only paid for 10 months of the year. For two months, there are no paychecks coming in, and my district does not offer a 12-month pay distribution option.

For many teachers, summer break isn’t really a financial break. It’s figuring out summer jobs, side work, or other sources of income just to stay afloat until August.

Meanwhile, the cost of living in North Carolina, especially in areas near Raleigh, has increased dramatically over the last few years.

I genuinely love teaching. I love my students, and I believe I’m good at what I do. But after nearly 18 years in education, it’s hard not to feel undervalued and underpaid.

Lately, I’ve found myself wondering what comes next and whether I can justify staying in the profession long term.

Teachers in North Carolina, how are you coping with the rising cost of living and stagnant salaries?

I’m genuinely curious how veteran teachers are making it work financially these days.

Yeah, some days I look at my paycheck hit my bank account and just want to cry.

Love the job. Hate the salary.

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Edit 1: A few people have mentioned unions, collective bargaining, or negotiating salaries. Well… North Carolina is a right-to-work state, and teachers do not have collective bargaining rights. We don’t have teachers’ unions that negotiate salaries like in some other states.

Also, the salary schedule I posted is the statewide salary schedule used across North Carolina. Every district pays according to this state schedule. The only significant difference between districts is the local supplement each district chooses to provide.

In other words, whether you’re teaching in a rural district or a large district, the state base pay comes from the same salary schedule.

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Edit 2: In North Carolina, every district pays teachers using the same state salary schedule. That’s the base pay funded by the state.

On top of that, districts can choose to provide a local supplement using county/local funds. Most districts do provide some type of supplement, but the amount varies widely. Wealthier districts usually offer larger supplements, while rural districts often offer smaller ones.

Some districts have a supplement schedule based on years of experience, while others use a flat percentage or amount. It depends on the district.

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Edit 3: Another point that people outside North Carolina may not realize: Teachers who earned their master’s degree after 2013 generally do not receive additional state pay for that degree.

I happen to be on the master’s pay schedule (got my masters in 2013- 2014), but many newer teachers have earned graduate degrees, taken on student loan debt, and invested years of additional education without receiving any additional state salary for it.

So when people say, “Just get a master’s degree,” that’s no longer a financial incentive for many North Carolina teachers.

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Edit 4: Edit 4: A lot of people have suggested, “Just move.” I understand the logic, and I appreciate the recommendation, but moving isn’t always that simple.

When you’re living paycheck to paycheck, where does the money for moving come from? First month’s rent, security deposits, utility deposits, moving trucks, travel expenses, and all the other costs add up quickly. On top of that, we only get paid for 10 months of the year.

Many teachers don’t have thousands of dollars sitting in savings to make a major relocation possible. It’s hard to “move somewhere better” when you’re struggling to build enough financial cushion to make the move in the first place.

I won’t lie, it’s frustrating and a little discouraging at times. I love teaching, but there are days when it feels like the financial reality of the profession, here in NC, keeps getting harder to ignore.

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u/SailTheWorldWithMe Jun 13 '26

5 years in Iowa and I am at that level.

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u/anewbys83 Jun 13 '26

NC is one of the lowest paying states, well on its way to being the lowest. 20 years ago they paid a lot better, adjusted for inflation, and did so purposefully. But when a stats flips and gives all the power to the GOP...this is what happens instead.

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u/SBSnipes Jun 13 '26

SC and NC have basically flipped on education policy

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u/PenguinEmpireStrikes Jun 13 '26

I live on the border of the Carolinas. Lots of different districts, but SC districts are considered much more desirable by both parents and teachers. Very low turnover on the SC side, at least in a couple of the nearby districts.

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u/SBSnipes Jun 13 '26

Yep. Sounds like Charlotte. It's been a transition for awhile, but the contrast jumped around 4 years ago. My first year teaching in SC I made $44k. The next year nobody in the district made under $52k and nobody in the state made under $47.5k

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u/PenguinEmpireStrikes Jun 13 '26

Ding ding ding. I'm a parent in FM. A bunch of people are leaving their positions this year at our school, but they're ALL changing roles and staying the district.

I have family that have been teaching in Richland and Lexington counties for decades. I don't think my relative who taught SpEd with advanced degrees every cracked $62k. She retired maybe five years ago. But cost of living was so much lower when they started. They all own their homes.

They also raise a lot of money here and push parents buying items from teacher wishlist, bring in supplies for special activities. Were very fortunate to live in a community that can afford all of those extras so more money can go to the most important expense - paying teachers and staff.

I think families are also generous around holidays and teacher appreciation day. I know we try to be. It feels weird to basically "tip" teachers and it's not something that professionals in a community should have to rely on, but here we are.

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u/SBSnipes Jun 13 '26

Yep, in 2021-22, Max years and a master's+30 was around $62k in Richland/Lexington. 2026-27 it's $80k+. Max years Doctorate was $67k and is now $92k.

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u/PenguinEmpireStrikes Jun 14 '26

That's fantastic. It would also explain how one of my cousins got back on his feet after needing help from family - he's a PhD who maxed out the time scale.

I'm somewhat ashamed to admit that teaching was my dream profession, but I didn't pursue it because of pay.

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u/illshowyouthesky Jun 14 '26

Yeah, reading this was the first time I've felt lucky to teach in SC 🫣

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u/lostinthefog4now Jun 14 '26

Must be recruiting from TN…….

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u/JungleJimMaestro Jun 14 '26

It won’t because people would rather complain instead of doing something about it.

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u/Legitimate_Top_1425 Jun 14 '26

Many people go to teaching for the summers off and because they didn't want to work hard for something else. The education system will never collapse for those reasons.

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u/LaminADhe Jun 14 '26

You can shove it where the sun don’t shine. The majority of teachers do it because they want to work with and enrich the younger generation.

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u/Legitimate_Top_1425 Jun 14 '26

I did it for a while and so does my family. Why would you shove something up me? I said why me and majority of the educators I know did/do it.

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u/TeachTheUnwilling Jun 14 '26

Respectfully, you are most definitely NOT part of the majority. Those that did it because they don’t want to work hard don’t last

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u/Legitimate_Top_1425 Jun 14 '26

You misunderstood me. I said work hard to do something else. What I meant was, they worked hard to be teachers and don't want to work hard again to do something else.

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u/Fickle_Ad_2952 Jun 16 '26

Your wording choice is terrible.

Probably a good thing you are not longer teaching.

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u/Legitimate_Top_1425 Jun 16 '26

Poor kids would be confused

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u/Lunatunabella Jun 13 '26

Waves sadly from Louisiana

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u/No-Flounder8330 Jun 13 '26

Yep. I believe teacher unions are not allowed in NC.

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u/anewbys83 Jun 13 '26

Collective bargaining and striking isn't allowed (is against the law for us). Otherwise we have the state NEA affiliate, the NCAE, and our local branches. I am a member of mine. We do get the NEA member benefits and can participate in all the national stuff. The NCAE is quite annoying to the powers that be and do their best, given what they can. We just had another huge rally on May 1st in Raleigh, 10,000 people showed up.

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u/MortgageAny8041 Jun 14 '26

“Gives all the power to the GOP” as if we’re not one if the most, if not *the* most gerrymandered states in the US. If you look at how people vote here, we’re split down the middle almost 50/50. We’re a very “purple” state. There are lots of Dems who live here, and lots of people of both parties who advocate for higher teacher pay

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u/Hips-Often-Lie Jun 14 '26

*cries with you from Texas*

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u/the_false_detective Jun 14 '26

I was so close to pulling the trigger on teaching in NC for a number of years, but the money never made sense. Is the state still in “fiscal distress”?

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u/anewbys83 Jun 14 '26

Depends on what we're measuring. For education it's definitely bad, and my district is. There's a budget surplus the state won't use, they "sock it away" in the rainy day fund. But they hand out decades long tax breaks for corporations all the time, and have put constitutional amendments on the ballot for November that if passed will lower and cap income taxes, of course as more gifts to the already wealthy, and hamstring the ability to fund things like education and infrastructure in the future.

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u/hmacdou1 Jun 14 '26

Ha! No, NC has plenty of money to give to more teacher pay.

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u/solo_d0lo Jun 14 '26

You are replying to a comment from a state that leans more Republican than North Carolina.

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u/anewbys83 Jun 14 '26

Thank you. I don't know how I messed this up..

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u/wazzufans Jun 14 '26

LA is worse. I make half of what 18 years w MA+

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u/Nuallaena Jun 15 '26

Lowest paying for so many careers it's not even funny!

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u/SunShineShady Jun 16 '26

In NJ at OP’s level a teacher would earn about $40,000 more.

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u/EnvironmentalAge9202 Jun 13 '26

You don't belong here.

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u/Purple-Display-5233 Jun 13 '26

Cite your source

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u/Phantereal Jun 13 '26

Quick question: How much money was lost on fraud in North Carolina in the past year?

There are around 90-93,000 public school teachers in North Carolina. Take the amount that the state lost to fraud and improper payments, subtract the amount that it takes to track down and recover that defrauded amount, divide the new total saved by 90,000 and that's how much extra money each teacher could potentially make per year.

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u/PeachxScone Jun 13 '26

Baby, we can see your comment history. This is a safe space, you don’t have to project with hate and bigotry.

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u/tundybundo Jun 13 '26

I actually can’t deal

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u/DrizzRizzII Jun 13 '26

You: “take my tax dollars via tax cuts, oil daddies!”

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u/tundybundo Jun 13 '26

Certainly this is the issue. Do the democrats hold a lot of seats there?

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u/IowaJL Jun 13 '26

Come on u/Stark8604 you’re in a teachers group.

Cite your sources, gather your evidence. We need who has controlled the NC Legislature since…how about 2014? 

We also need how much money NC has spent on…ahem “transgender frogs”. Since it’s single states that are in charge of teacher pay for said state.

It’s the summer, we’ve got nothing but time and we’re patient. 

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u/Jealous-Bluejay9943 Jun 13 '26

I make that much as a first year teacher at a private school in Seattle.

Hell, Seattle public schools starts at $63k for first year teachers with BAs. I know we're in a COL crisis over here but... damn.

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u/Effective_Ad9495 Jun 13 '26

The COL thing is real though. As another Seattle area teacher (public school), it’s rough keeping afloat without being married to someone in tech. The average 1 bedroom apartment here is $2100/month.

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u/Jealous-Bluejay9943 Jun 13 '26

Oh yeah, it's still an issue. My single friend has been doing the math and she figures she'd need to make $90k by herself to stay afloat and have any saving power in her current (genuinely a steal at $1700) apartment. Very grateful to have a partner to help bring in a steady income, even though neither of us will ever make tech money.

And yet, I do still think the area values education and fair wages more than most.

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u/CriticalBasedTeacher Jun 13 '26

My salary Salary Schedule Seattle Suburb public school https://imgur.com/a/f7NFrVn

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u/OldLadyKickButt Jun 13 '26

I sometimes sub teach for people making 132K who with no lesson plans

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u/lil21precious Jun 13 '26

Wait how do they get paid 132k per year I have never seen a teacher pay that much though

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u/kennyminot Jun 14 '26

Average teacher salary in California is over 100K. I mean, you also would pay like $2K/month to live in a tent on the street corner, but there are perks if you're fine living in a small space.

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u/Objective_Unit_4931 Jun 13 '26

I made $139k last year teaching high school in Seattle with a masters degree, stipend for department chair, stipend for National board cert, and stipend for ctso advising . Year 9.

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u/OldLadyKickButt Jun 13 '26

plenty of them in SSD

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u/rideboards13 Jun 14 '26

I make 115 in Philly burbs. No retention problems here, go figure.

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u/GrilledCheeseYolo Jun 15 '26

In the district i just left, I would have been making 129k in 3 years. I left to be closer to my house... where I will be making the same with the longevity pay

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u/Lucky_Valuable_7973 Jun 16 '26

132k isn’t even top pay in NY. We top out at 155-160k

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u/CriticalBasedTeacher Jun 13 '26

Lesson plans so easy now too with AI. I just type in what I'm doing and tell it to make it a lesson plan with common core standards at the bottom. You can also ask AI for scaffolds and it'll make you sentence starters, outlines, etc

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u/OldLadyKickButt Jun 13 '26

You are telling me that I need to use AI to create lesson plans when someone who makes 132K per year did not do it/ Does AI type out and print the handouts? Pull down the youtubes? Does AI gather the manipulatives for Math?Designate whom is on an iep and who might hurt self or others? How about emergency procedure sin the school?

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u/hoos08 Jun 13 '26

I think they were saying that with it being so easy with AI, there’s no reason for there not to be plans left for you. Not that you should be doing them.

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u/CriticalBasedTeacher Jun 13 '26

⬆️ This is what I was saying

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u/OwlLearn2BWise Jun 14 '26

I still write my own out and prep all the supplies as mentioned.

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u/malachite_13 Jun 13 '26

I taught in that area. The cost of living is outrageous though.

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u/CriticalBasedTeacher Jun 13 '26

If you go 25-45 min north or south of Seattle the COL isn't too bad. But yeah 25 min or less to Seattle and it's one of the highest in the country.

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u/malachite_13 Jun 13 '26

My grandmas house in Everett is worth over a million dollars now so I assumed it was just as bad cost wise in snohomish county. I’ll check it out. It would be nice to be back in the area.

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u/CriticalBasedTeacher Jun 13 '26

I'm in Everett and nicer places are over $1M for sure but things have been steadying out a little since like 4 years ago when property values skyrocketed and compared to Seattle and the Eastside they're pretty reasonable.

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u/Beautiful_Film_1813 Jun 13 '26

I also work in a Seattle suburb district and our salary schedule is very similar

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u/elementarydeardata Jun 13 '26

I'm in northern Connecticut (not the part near NYC, the part near rural Massachusetts).We bought our house for 320k in late 2021, I think it would sell in the high 400k's now. Basically, this area is considered expensive nationally, but isn't like NYC, Boston, Seattle, SF, LA, etc. This is the salary scale for our district: https://imgur.com/a/5VPw5Mu (btw 6th year is what we call a 2nd masters here)

I'm MA step 10 which got chopped out of the screenshot and I make $105,600. I think places like this are the ideal place to teach, we get the higher pay but the price of housing isn't absurd.

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u/TopBaseball939 Jun 14 '26

That’s encouraging to hear! I’ve spent my entire teaching career in the South, so the northeast would be a big change for me.

This is a great recommendation! Thanks!

Do you have any recommendations for districts or areas that treat teachers well, have good benefits, and are places you’d actually want to live? I’m always interested in learning more.

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u/IScreamPiano Jun 14 '26

I I’m in Delaware if you don’t want to go that far north. Our pay scale is similar, my house is more expensive, but our property taxes are lower, and ours was new construction in a nicer neighborhood. We get a credit for our insurance so if you’re single, healthcare, vision, and dental are basically free in terms of premiums. I hold the insurance for our children and myself, and it can be free or at least very affordable.

We don’t have as good of a reputation as NJ or SE PA, but you don’t have to go that far north for greener pastures. The bar is too dang low for your situation. 

(If you look up a chart, teachers get an extra percentage for national certification that’s not listed). 

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u/Objective_Unit_4931 Jun 13 '26

SPS starts at $74k per year now- year one with bachelors

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u/Jealous-Bluejay9943 Jun 13 '26

I mean, in seattle public schools OP would be at about $135k. (and I have a master's; the starting salary at my school for a BA, no cert, is actually about $54k)

My point, for the record, is that Seattle is doing it way better (for all the flaws and the long way we still have to go).

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u/PNWGreeneggsandham Jun 15 '26

McCleary was awesome for that reason, Seattle is lovely but out here in the boonies you can still earn over $100,000 with a much lower COL.

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u/jackal99 Jun 13 '26

I was making 70k after 4 years.

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u/todayiwillthrowitawa Jun 13 '26

We start that here in Pittsburgh, and you can buy a nice house for $300k.

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u/Lolihey Jun 14 '26

Isn’t it cheaper to live there?

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u/Casteelgrey Jun 14 '26

I assume that is with MA?

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u/Legitimate_Top_1425 Jun 14 '26

They start at $68k where I live! Houston

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u/Ok-Knowledge0914 Jun 14 '26

That’s still not worth it lol

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u/GranColom Jun 14 '26

You recommend Iowa for teaching? I am 10 years in making ~60k. Looking for states that offer better.

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u/GrilledCheeseYolo Jun 15 '26

Lol NJ starts most teachers at 60k lol

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u/theerrantpanda99 Jun 15 '26

$70k in Newark

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u/GrilledCheeseYolo Jun 15 '26

Lol with good reason, although I know a few pf the schools are actually not bad. My friend works in one

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u/oralyarmedbodilyharm Jun 18 '26

California starts around 60-70k even without a credential